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TRANSLATION OF QURAN
BY DR. QAMAR ZAMAN
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آیات
سورۃ
نمبر
1-7 الفَاتِحَة -1
1-286 البَقَرَة -2
1-200 آل عِمرَان -3
1-176 النِّسَاء -4
1-120 المَائدة -5
1-165 الاٴنعَام -6
1-206 الاٴعرَاف -7
1-75 الاٴنفَال -8
1-129 التّوبَة -9
1-109 یُونس -10
1-123 هُود -11
1-111 یُوسُف -12
1-43 الرّعد -13
1-52 إبراهیم -14
1-99 الحِجر -15
1-128 النّحل -16
1-111 بنیٓ اسرآئیل / الإسرَاء -17
1-110 الکهف -18
1-98 مَریَم -19
1-135 طٰه -20
1-112 الاٴنبیَاء -21
1-78 الحَجّ -22
1-118 المؤمنون -23
1-64 النُّور -24
1-77 الفُرقان -25
1-227 الشُّعَرَاء -26
1-93 النَّمل -27
1-88 القَصَص -28
1-69 العَنکبوت -29
1-60 الرُّوم -30
1-34 لقمَان -31
1-30 السَّجدَة -32
1-73 الاٴحزَاب -33
1-54 سَبَإ -34
1-45 فَاطِر -35
1-83 یسٓ -36
1-182 الصَّافات -37
1-88 صٓ -38
1-75 الزُّمَر -39
1-85 المؤمن / غَافر -40
1-54 حٰمٓ السجدة / فُصّلَت -41
1-54 القَمَر -54
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43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
HOW COULD MUHAMMAD HAVE ASKED THE PRIOR MESSENGERS...ANYTHING?  
 
Add Your Comments  Question by: DHULQARNAIN On 23 August 2011
Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Nargis, Moazzam, Perwez, Waseemameer,  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is no more than a messenger; the messengers have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels!s, he will by no means do harm to Allah in the least and Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
Given ayat 3:144, how could Muhammad have asked the prior Messengers anything...they were all dead when he came on the world stage.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: waseemameer On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqurnain,  
 
In 43/45 , No name is mentioned.

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
It's Muhammad, because of the term kaf ك , which is the 2nd person masculine singular pronoun.  
 
Allah, who revealed this ayat to Muhammad, is the 1st person masculine singular pronoun.  
 
Now you know why it's Muhammad although his name is not mentioned.  
 
So, the question remains...given ayat 3:144, how could Muhammad have asked the prior Messengers anything?...they were all dead when he came on the world stage.  
.  
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: waseemameer On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqurnain,  
 
Considering your post above, kaf is second person masculine singular, and hay هِ is third person.  
 
While ayat 3/144 was revealed to Muhammad, and addressed to people not to him, and talk about Muhammad in it.  
 
As per grammar rule, ayat 3/144 should have revealed directly to people? What do u think? or it should be worded differently? Just a question please, I am only a student, and have knowledge less than you.

Comments by: moazzam On 23 August 2011
Dhulqarnain! With consolidation of verse 3/144 and 43/ 45, if you have the inference that, Quran= Muhammad= messenger, then you are at wrong footing.  
Read the verses 43/40-45,  
40: Then will you make the deaf hear,[ O prophet of the time], or guide the blind or he who is in clear error?  
41: And whether [or not] We take you (the prophet of the time) away [in death], indeed, We will take retribution upon them.  
42: Or whether [or not] We show you(the prophet of the time) that which We have promised them, indeed, We are Perfect in Ability.  
43: So adhere to that which message has been conceived in your mind(after pondering into Alkitab),. Indeed, you(the prophet of the time) are on a straight path.  
44: And indeed, it is a remembrance for you( the prophet of the time) and your people( in any era), and you [all] are going to be questioned.  
45: And ask those We sent before you (the prophet of the time) of Our messengers; have We made besides the Most Merciful to be a ruling authority to whom they surrendered  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Waseemameer,  
 
***Considering your post above, kaf is second person masculine singular, and hay هِ is third person. While ayat 3/144 was revealed to Muhammad, and addressed to people not to him, and talk about Muhammad in it. As per grammar rule, ayat 3/144 should have revealed directly to people? What do u think? or it should be worded differently? Just a question please, I am only a student, and have knowledge less than you.***  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
I have no idea what your talking about. 1st person and 2nd person are clear as to what they mean. Al-Quran was revealed from Allah (1st person masc. sing.) to only one individual male, Muhammad (2nd person masc. sing). That Allah mentions people in the 3rd person doesn’t alter that fact. 3:144 was still revealed to only one individual male although it's discussing the concerns of more than two individuals.  
 
So, the question remains...given ayat 3:144, how could Muhammad have asked the prior Messengers (43:45) anything?...they were all dead when he came on the world stage.  
.  
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Moazzam,  
 
***Dhulqarnain! With consolidation of verse 3/144 and 43/ 45, if you have the inference that, Quran= Muhammad= messenger, then you are at wrong footing.***  
 
I’m not discussing ayat 3:144 nor am I making any such inference as Quran=Muhammad. I will say that Muhammad =messenger, however. Here’s the question Moazzam:  
 
So, the question remains...given ayat 3:144, how could Muhammad have asked the prior Messengers (43:45) anything?...they were all dead when he came on the world stage.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: waseemameer On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqurnain  
 
I must admit that you have the best quality of ignoring people messages/posts. You have ignored Brother Moazzam post completely.  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
I didn't ignore him at all.  
 
He still hasn't articulated, as far as I'm concerned anyway, the answer to my question. His response is not clear to me at all. I've never met people so devoted to obfuscation than those here at Aastana Blog.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: naeem sheikh On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Mr Dhulqarnain! Please read carefully, the translation Brother Moazzam posted in his previous post, the query would be cleared to you.Especial attention should be given at the matterial written in brackits (just for clarification)

Comments by: PRIEST BOKMEI On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
He needs to rephrase; he is not clear to me. If you or Waseemameer knows what he's talking about, then you rephrase it for him.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: naeem sheikh On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Dear Dhulqarnain! It mean the prophethood is still continued, and prophet of the time means any rasool present in that era can asks who is already present before him in his time and in his nation. this verse is also prove the continuation in Resaalat in each era read the 43/44 .  
43/44 And indeed, it is a remembrance for you( the prophet of the time) and your people( in any era), and you [all] are going to be questioned.  

Comments by: Universal-Lanati On 23 August 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqarnain  
 
I request you, please read brilliant brother Waseem Ameers point.The ayah is talking ABOUT Mohammed but TO the people- you are ASSUMING this ayah is talking TO Mohammed ABOUT Mohammed. ك kaf is second person masculine singular, and hay هِ is third person. As per grammar rule, ayat 3/144 should have revealed directly to people? What do u think? or it should be worded differently?  
 
***I have no idea what your talking about. *** Dhulqarnain  
 
Correct, you have no idea at all. He said something very essential. You have no idea what he said and you have no idea what the Ayah is saying. Brother Moazzam explained it very well.3:144 can't be isolated from other ayah's. you have to see other ayah's to understand the particular one. Ayah 43:44 does not mention any name. Whatever name you give, is your own assumption, as the meaning is (the prophet of the time)and your people( in any era), and you [all] are going to be questioned. .

Comments by: PRIEST BOKMEI On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
***I request you, please read brilliant brother Waseem Ameers point.The ayah is talking ABOUT Mohammed but TO the people- you are ASSUMING this ayah is talking TO Mohammed ABOUT Mohammed. ك kaf is second person masculine singular, and hay هِ is third person. As per grammar rule, ayat 3/144 should have revealed directly to people? What do u think? or it should be worded differently?***  
 
***Correct, you have no idea at all. He said something very essential. You have no idea what he said and you have no idea what the Ayah is saying. Brother Moazzam explained it very well.3:144 can't be isolated from other ayah's. you have to see other ayah's to understand the particular one. Ayah 43:44 does not mention any name. Whatever name you give, is your own assumption, as the meaning is (the prophet of the time)and your people( in any era), and you [all] are going to be questioned.***  
 
1. Moazzam didn’t explain anything.  
 
2. I have no idea want you’re talking, but, then, you don't know what you're talking about either.  
 
Personal pronouns can also be characterized or distinguished by person.  
 
1. FIRST PERSON: refers to the speaker(s) or writer(s) ("I" for singular, "we" for plural).  
 
2. SECOND PERSON: refers to the person or people being spoken or written to ("you" for both singular and plural).  
 
3. THIRD PERSON: refers to the person or people being spoken or written about ("he," "she," and "it" for singular, "they" for plural).  
 
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/pronouns1.htm  
 
Now, let’s look at the ayats in light of the above grammar definitions.  
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
1. FIRST PERSON: refers to the speaker(s) or writer(s) ("I" for singular, "we" for plural).  
 
A) Who is the speaker/addressor in this ayat? Well, it has to be Allah.  
 
2. SECOND PERSON: refers to the person or people being SPOKEN OR WRITTEN TO ("you" for both singular and plural).  
 
B) Who is being spoken TO/the addressee in this ayat? Well, it must be the one to whom Al-Quran (from sura 2-sura 114) was revealed—Muhammad. This is not an assumption, but a FACT, to wit:  
 
47:2 And those who believe and do good, and believe in WHAT HAS BEEN REVEALED TO MUHAMMAD, and it is the very truth from their Lord, He will remove their evil from them and improve their condition.  
What was revealed to Muhammad—Al-Quran (sura 2-sura 114)  
 
6:19 Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me; and THIS THE QURAN WAS REVEALED TO ME that with it I may warn you and whomsoever it reaches. Do you really bear witness that there are other gods with Allah? Say: I do not bear witness. Say: He is only one God, and surely I am clear of that which you set up (with Him).  
 
Get it?  
 
Regarding ayat 3:144 if what you’re saying was true, then Allah would have had to reveal the wahy to all of the people mentioned in the ayat DIRECTLY as He did with his messenger-prophet Muhammad.  
 
So, again:  
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
HOW COULD MUHAMMAD HAVE ASKED THE PRIOR MESSENGERS...ANYTHING?  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: naeem sheikh On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
Mr Dhulqarnain! Your post reflects, that, you are continuously hoodwinking to Brother Moazzam’s and other senior members posts. Also I found you dull/silly in understanding even the most obvious matters by deliberately taking them in juvenile and infantile manners. No body can teach the dumb, just desecrate and waste of time.

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
***Mr Dhulqarnain! Your post reflects, that, you are continuously hoodwinking to Brother Moazzam’s and other senior members posts. Also I found you dull/silly in understanding even the most obvious matters by deliberately taking them in juvenile and infantile manners. No body can teach the dumb, just desecrate and waste of time***  
 
Yeah, and blah blah blah, who do you think you're fooling? Just yourelf. The question remains unanswered by you. Calling me names, complaining, etc. are YOUR attempts to avoid the implications of 43:45.  
 
Contrary to your view, Moazzam, has not answered the question at all, period.  
 
Here's a thought, why don't you, in your own words, explain 43:45? Do you think you can do that or will you just copy and paste Moazzam's non-answer?  
 
If the ayat is referring to "prophets" as you people claim, then, by all means, name the prophets contemporary with Muhammad and name one who is alive today? But nah, you aren't going to that, instead, you will just complain and indulge in ad hominems.  
 
So, again:  
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
HOW COULD MUHAMMAD HAVE ASKED THE PRIOR MESSENGERS ANYTHING...THEY WERE ALREADY DEAD?  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Perwez1 On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
DHULQARNAIN: HOW COULD MUHAMMAD HAVE ASKED THE PRIOR MESSENGERS ANYTHING...THEY WERE ALREADY DEAD?  
 
PERWEZ: The prophets were living in GARDENS weren't they???  
And Muhammad met those prophets on his trip to heaven. Haven't you heard that thing ???  
 
OK here we go to heaven again.  
You are yet to prove me wrong mate.  
I have pointed out few contradictions in Quran and you have not proven them wrong and neither you are accepting that the translations you have been quoting throughout the blog are doubtful.  
 
Here they are :-  
http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?QID=1616#COM8473  
 
Alright lets do it this way.  
 
Answer YES or NO.  
 
Do you think the translations from Y. ALi, Pickthall and others which you have posted in the past are totally correct?  
YES or NO?  
 
If these translations are correct, then you should face no problem in proving the contradictions wrong !  
TRUE or FALSE?  
 
If these translations are doubtful then all your previous assertions become doubtful too !!!  
TRUE or FALSE?  
 
If you are not proving those contradictions as incorrect, and you are also not accepting the translations as doubtful, then does this means you are running away?  
YES or NO?  
 

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
Dear Pervez1, i think you are right and got to the root of issue in its own style...  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.  
 

Comments by: Nargis On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqarnain  
 

By linking 3/144 and 43/ 45, it seems like you mean to point out that the previous messenger is a reference to the Quran?  
 
However, the verse 43:45 cannot be seen quarantined and it should be seen in its given context. Which is from 43:40:-  
 
40: Then will you make the deaf hear, [O prophet of the time], or guide the blind or he who is in clear error?  
 
Here, no name is mentioned, you assume it is talking to Mohammed. But if that is the case, why not mention the name? Are you having the authority to put words and names in ayas?  
 
Here the verse is clearly talking to YOU, who have the message and the ability to understand it.  
 
The hard part is, if you understand something very difficult to grasp in the first part, then it’s equally hard to make others understand it  
 
If you don’t understand the message yourself, then it is impossible to make others understand.  
 
So he YOU in this part is the one who is blessed with the knowledge of the book, and YOU is the prophet of the time who is trying to guide people. Then again the receivers are mentioned as blind and it is then emphasized that the efforts won’t result in anything.  
 
WHY?  
 
Because the sun never guide the one who have closed his eyes.  
The stupid’s biggest punishment is his stupidity  
The one living in the darkness has a chastisement, which is the darkness.  
But he is not aware of it.  
 
41: And whether [or not] we take you (the prophet of the time) away [in death], indeed, We will take retribution upon them.  
 
Here again, the name of a specific prophet is NOT mentioned, but it is assumed by you and others. This is again a statement to every prophet of his time.  
 
Had it been Mohammed only, then the retribution would be limited to his people. Which is not the case, look at the punishment mentioned above, it is “beyond time and space”:-D  
 
My professor in psychology said: - The more you know, the less you know you know  
 
This means, when you start solving the puzzles of knowledge, you can see how much you still need to know, and that you don’t have time to absorb it all.  
 
In other words, the fool talks, the intelligent listens  
 
The fool is a natural born PHD; the intelligent learn all his life  
 
42: Or whether [or not] we show you (the prophet of the time) that which we have promised them, indeed, we are Perfect in Ability  
 
Here you can see again, this is a talk to the prophet of the time, that even if he can see with his own eyes the promise or not, the ability of doing so is the guarantee given to him. This is for EVERY PROPHET of his time.  
If you used to be Hindu or Christian, but Ahmed Deeded teach you the Quran, then who is your messenger? The one who give you the message?  
 
43: So adhere to that which message has been conceived in your mind (after pondering into AlKitab), Indeed, you(the prophet of the time) are on a straight path.  
 
So after understanding the Al Kitab, HE is encouraged to stand by it no matter what others may say, because he the prophet of the time, is indeed on the right path  
 
44: And indeed, it is a remembrance for you (the prophet of the time) and your people (in any era), and you [all] are going to be questioned.  
 
Because this is a promise to EVERYONE, that EVERYONE is to be questioned, this message is again beyond time and space to every prophet of his time and every people living on planet earth.  
 
45: And ask those we sent before you (the prophet of the time) of our messengers; have we made besides the Most Merciful to be a ruling authority to whom they surrendered  
 
This is obvious, the messengers before are those who were present – Like your “Messenger” can ask us cough cough :-D  
 
3:144  
 
I think this one should be clear now.  
 
Agreeing with Mubashir syed :P


Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
Nargy, and All,  
 
***By linking 3/144 and 43/ 45, it seems like you mean to point out that the previous messenger is a reference to the Quran?... This is obvious, the messengers before are those who were present – Like your “Messenger” can ask us cough cough :-D***  
 
No on both accounts, you are not reading the ayats correctly:  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
I don’t know how these ayats can be any plainer or explained any better, but here goes. Ayat 3:144 plainly states that, at the time of Muhammad all of the previous Messengers (messengers is with the definite article) had passed away/khalat: to be dead; died. Dictionary of the Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg.165. We know this word means physical death, because Allah then asks, regarding Muhammad--" ...If then he dies or is killed..."  
 
Now, given that the messengers, prior to Muhammad, had all died, then how could Muhammad, per ayat 43:45, ask them anything? Explain to me how Muhammad could ask dead people anything? Neither you nor the others have explained this, to date. These two ayats are inextricably linked.  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Nargis On 24 August 2011Report Abuse

Ok, can you tell me where the name of prophet Mohammed is mentioned in 43:45, or where it is written that KAf ALWAYS means Mohammed? where is this definition given in the Quran?  
 
 
Before you say 43:45 is mentioning Mohammed, or directed to prophet Mohammed Only, you have to confirm it through the Quran.  
 
Bring your proofs if your truthful 2:111-


Comments by: PRIEST BOKMEI On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
Nargis,  
 
***Ok, can you tell me where the name of prophet Mohammed is mentioned in 43:45, or where it is written that KAf ALWAYS means Mohammed? where is this definition given in the Quran? Before you say 43:45 is mentioning Mohammed, or directed to prophet Mohammed Only, you have to confirm it through the Quran.***  
 
Oh God, why do you play these games all the time, Narge? You understand the grammar on this and you know full well that 43:45 is addressing Muhammad. Where did I ever write that kaf ALWAYS means Muhammad? Why do you have to lie like this? Kaf is simply the 1st person masculine singular. It’s also used in regard to Allah.  
 
Anyway, here is the proof:  
 
1. FIRST PERSON: refers to the speaker(s) or writer(s) ("I" for singular, "we" for plural).  
 
2. SECOND PERSON: refers to the person or people being spoken or written to ("you" for both singular and plural).  
 
3. THIRD PERSON: refers to the person or people being spoken or written about ("he," "she," and "it" for singular, "they" for plural).  
 
Now, let’s look at the ayats in light of the above grammar definitions.  
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
1. FIRST PERSON: refers to the speaker(s) or writer(s) ("I" for singular, "we" for plural).  
 
A) Who is the speaker/addressor in this ayat? Well, it has to be Allah.  
 
2. SECOND PERSON: refers to the person or people being SPOKEN OR WRITTEN TO ("you" for both singular and plural).  
 
B) Who is being spoken TO/the addressee in this ayat? Well, it must be the one to whom Al-Quran (from sura 2-sura 114) was revealed—Muhammad. This is not an assumption, but a FACT, to wit:  
 
47:2 And those who believe and do good, and believe in WHAT HAS BEEN REVEALED TO MUHAMMAD, and it is the very truth from their Lord, He will remove their evil from them and improve their condition.  
What was revealed to Muhammad—Al-Quran (sura 2-sura 114)  
 
6:19 Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me; and THIS THE QURAN WAS REVEALED TO ME that with it I may warn you and whomsoever it reaches. Do you really bear witness that there are other gods with Allah? Say: I do not bear witness. Say: He is only one God, and surely I am clear of that which you set up (with Him).  
 
Now you have your proof that it is Muhammad being addressed in 43:45.  
 
Can you now explain the following? Or will you throw some more diversionary baloney on the wall to see what might stick?  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
I don’t know how these ayats can be any plainer or explained any better, but here goes. Ayat 3:144 plainly states that, at the time of Muhammad all of the previous Messengers (messengers is with the definite article) had passed away/khalat: to be dead; died. Dictionary of the Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg.165. We know this word means physical death, because Allah then asks, regarding Muhammad--" ...If then he dies or is killed..."  
 
Now, given that the messengers, prior to Muhammad, had all died, how then could Muhammad, per ayat 43:45, ask them anything? Explain to me how Muhammad could ask dead people anything? Neither you nor the others have explained this, to date. These two ayats are inextricably linked.  
 
Looking forward to your explanation.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 
 

Comments by: Nargis2 On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
Show us  
 
Not a personal inference  
But from the Quran a reference  
 
Show us from the Quran the Kaf , second persons name plz.  
 
We have explained it, if you disagree its okay. Still I want you to prove from the Quran that the second person you mean is Mohammed in 43:45, Is Mohammed.

Comments by: PRIEST BOKMEI On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
Nargis,  
 
I made no personal inference as is yours and the others custom to do.  
 
Okay, tell me then, who this is, if it isn't Muhammad:  
 
2:4 And who believe in that which has been revealed to you/ kafand that which was revealed before you/kaf and they are sure of the hereafter.  
 
kaf: 2nd person masculine singular...who is this single male being addressed?  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: Nargis2 On 24 August 2011Report Abuse

kaf: 2nd person masculine singular...who is this single male being addressed?  
 
Thats what We are asking you...And we have to stick to the topic. Remember what you said when you were asked about shahr al ramadan when you quoted 2:183-187,,,you said keep it to the topic....  
 
Now you have to explain your claim that the kaaf here 45:43 is Mohammed. If you say or assume it is directed to Prophet Mohammed only, then it is a personal inference as long as a Quraniq reference is not provided to back it up..right ? :P  
 
When this is solved, we can move forward or right left.... :P


Comments by: Perwez1 On 24 August 2011Report Abuse
DHULQARNAIN YOU COMPLETELY IGNORED MY POST MATE !!!  
 
I provided the answer to your question but it seems as if you overlooked. Let me post it again :-  
 
 
DHULQARNAIN: HOW COULD MUHAMMAD HAVE ASKED THE PRIOR MESSENGERS ANYTHING...THEY WERE ALREADY DEAD?  
 
PERWEZ: The prophets were living in GARDENS weren't they???  
And Muhammad met those prophets on his trip to heaven. Haven't you heard that thing ???  
 
OK here we go to heaven again.  
You are yet to prove me wrong mate.  
I have pointed out few contradictions in Quran and you have not proven them wrong and neither you are accepting that the translations you have been quoting throughout the blog are doubtful.  
 
Here they are :-  
http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?QID=1616#COM8473  
 
Alright lets do it this way.  
 
Answer YES or NO.  
 
Do you think the translations from Y. ALi, Pickthall and others which you have posted in the past are totally correct?  
YES or NO?  
 
If these translations are correct, then you should face no problem in proving the contradictions wrong !  
TRUE or FALSE?  
 
If these translations are doubtful then all your previous assertions become doubtful too !!!  
TRUE or FALSE?  
 
If you are not proving those contradictions as incorrect, and you are also not accepting the translations as doubtful, then does this means you are running away?  
YES or NO?  
 

Comments by: PRIEST BOKMEI On 25 August 2011Report Abuse
Nargy,  
 
DHULQARNAIN: kaf: 2nd person masculine singular...who is this single male being addressed?  
 
***Thats what We are asking you... Now you have to explain your claim that the kaaf here 45:43 is Mohammed. If you say or assume it is directed to Prophet Mohammed only, then it is a personal inference as long as a Quraniq reference is not provided to back it up..right ?***  
 
I told you who it is—Muhammad. Who else received Al-Quran mentioned in ayat 2:185, among other ayats? What are you talking about?! I gave you the following two ayats to prove that it was Muhammad who received Al-Quran, yet, you completely ignored them:  
 
47:2 And those who believe and do good, and believe in WHAT HAS BEEN REVEALED TO MUHAMMAD, and it is the very truth from their Lord, He will remove their evil from them and improve their condition.  
 
6:19 Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me; and THIS THE QURAN WAS REVEALED TO ME that with it I may warn you and whomsoever it reaches. Do you really bear witness that there are other gods with Allah? Say: I do not bear witness. Say: He is only one God, and surely I am clear of that which you set up (with Him).  
 
Given the above two ayats then, who do you think the 2nd person masculine singular pronoun is referring to, among others, in ayats 2:4 and 43:45?! Here let me refresh your grammar vocabulary.:  
 
PRONOUN: word that can function as a noun phrase used by itself and that REFERS either to the participants in the discourse (e.g., I, you) or to SOMEONE or something MENTIONED ELSEWHERE IN THE DISCOURSE.  
 
Pronouns can replace proper nouns i.e. Allah, Jibril, Muhammad, The Messenger etc..  
 
You know Narge you think you’re playing games with me, but actually you’re not. You’re playing games with Allah and His Words ( if you even believe that He’s a living being who created you and everything else and that He (pronoun) will judge you on that Day) and your own soul. You should really think about that.  
 
Dhulqaranain-  

Comments by: Nargis On 26 August 2011Report Abuse
You know Narge you think you’re playing games with me, but actually you’re not. You’re playing games with Allah and His Words ( if you even believe that He’s a living being who created you and everything else and that He (pronoun) will judge you on that Day) and your own soul. You should really think about that.  
 

I'm really sick and bored of this Christian religious issue oaths presented by Qadiyani followers calling themselves Quranists. You think playing games with you is the same as playing games with Allah? do you really think you are Allah ? And asking you to provide verifications when you talk about The Quran is playing games? Do you really think people are here to play games with you to convert you form Qadianyism, and not to learn what the Quran is saying in Arabic `?  
 
Yeh yeh now you will say you only follow the Quran. You follow not THE Quran but THEIR Quran. Had it been THE Quran, you would have studied it and tried to find out what it says, not contested with it with the orthodox translations. You will not win over the Quran with the Christian concepts camouflaged in Qadiyani translations; the Quran insusceptible from such tasteless attempts.  
 
You need to get rid of the Christian salvations concept, we are not standing in the Church, and you are here with orthodox translations of Qadiyani s. They may mislead you because you jumped from the Church to their mosque, a bad copy of the churches. But you can’t fool the one who study the Quran. Now pack in your Christian qadiyani codswallop and answer the questions  
 
Provide proof from the Quran for ANY claim regarding the Quran, start with the aya 43:45. Show us the name you are signifying is there but we can’t see.  
 
Ask them to provide their proofs IF THEY ARE TRUTHFUL 2:111  


Comments by: ARCHILOCUS On 26 August 2011Report Abuse
Narge,  
 
***1.The pronoun kaf is 2nd person masculine singular. What if a female is reading it? She cannot be masculine singular.***  
 
This is true, however, we are not concerned with the reader, rather, we are concerned with who is being referred to IN Al-Quran. That’s the issue!  
 
***If the words Qawm is masculine plural, does it mean it only consists of men?  
yadaka, يَدَكَ is divided into 2 morphological segments, A noun and possessive pronoun. The noun is feminine singular and is in the accusative case (منصوب). The noun's triliteral root is yā dāl yā (ي د ي). The attached possessive pronoun is second person masculine singular. Now tell me, is the hand of a woman or a hand of a man?***  
 
I’m not discussing qawn, that is a different situation. I don’t know why some words take on gender. What I do know though is that the following personal pronouns are gender specific—without doubt:  
 
19:19 He said: I am only bearer of a message of thy Lord: That I will give YOU a pure boy.  
 
In ayat 19:19, the YOU is 2nd person feminine singular  
 
27:33 They said: We are possessors of strength and possessors of mighty prowess. And the command is yours, so consider what YOU will command.  
 
In ayat 27:33, again, the YOU is 2nd person feminine singular.  
 
In the following three ayats all are 2nd person masculine singular  
 
7:144 He said: O Moses, surely I have chosen YOU above the people by My messages and My words. So take hold of what I give YOU and be of the grateful.  
 
17:101 And certainly We gave Moses nine clear signs; so ask the Children of Israel. When he came to them, Pharaoh said to him: Surely I deem YOU, O Moses, to be one bewitched.  
 
79:17-18 Go to Pharaoh, surely he has rebelled. And say: Wilt YOU purify thyself?  
 
2:4 And who believe in that which has been revealed to YOU and that which was revealed before thee, and of the Hereafter they are sure.  
 
 
Now, ayat 2:4 has to refer to a human being either male or female, correct? So, I ask you. If you were taking questions at public forum (not online), in front of scholars and professional people, and was asked:  
 
1. who is 2:4 referring to?  
 
2. is the individual male or a female?  
 
What would your answer be?  
 
***And answer Parwez too, he is asking questions relevant to your claims and use of orthodox translations.***  
 
I’m not interested, at this time anyway, in the topic—Orthodox Translations: Contradictions and Doubts. I have other more pressing arguments at hand.  
 
***You can’t run away any more, we have seen your behavior and hidings whenever you are asked something, so it is about time you don't hide but answer questions.***  
 
Run?!? LOL!! I’ve been after you for weeks to answer 3:21, that is, to name just ONE prophet at the time of Muhammad and ONE today. Have you answered? Nope. You write whole term papers here with no problem, yet I ask you for one name (or say male or female) and you cannot provide it. And guess what? You never will because what your proffering is not true, hence, your argument/position on 3:21 is invalid.  
 
***And what a nice trick, I asked you to produce proofs about 43:45, instead you opened a new thread to avoid producing proofs as you are ordered in 2:111.***  
 
Speaking of which you’ve run from this question as well. Here, I’ll ask you again.  
How could Muhammad ask any of the messengers anything, given the fact that, per ayat 3:144, they were all dead.  
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before YOU: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Nargis2 On 26 August 2011Report Abuse

So you again are avoiding Questions, and running away?  
 
The question to us was how Mohammed can ask those who have passed away, and we said this verse is talking to "YOU", prophet in every era, ANY TIME.  
 
That you overlooked and pushed on with no, the YOU is Mohammed. Then I asked you , what is the proof of YOU being Mohammed when the name is not mentioned.  
 
Can you answer that? Bring your proofs if you are truthful 2:111


Comments by: ARCHILOCUS On 26 August 2011Report Abuse
Nargis,  
 
I see you refused to answer the questions on my prior post, no problem.  
 
***So you again are avoiding Questions, and running away?  
 
Oh, please.  
 
***NARGIS: The question to us was how Mohammed can ask those who have passed away, and we said this verse is talking to "YOU", prophet in every era, ANY TIME. That you overlooked and pushed on with no, the YOU is Mohammed. Then I asked you , what is the proof of YOU being Mohammed when the name is not mentioned.***  
 
I agree that the there is no mention of Muhammad and probably not in any other ayat for that matter. I began to use the “name” Muhammad only for convenience, as do you, because there is no solid proof that is a proper name. That is why I used to use the term—Last Prophet, however, you deny that Khatim nabiyeem means last prophet and then you wrote the following:  
 
3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment.  
 
***NARGIS: In this verse the verbs used are not in past tense ,the verbs are  
یکفرون یقتلون These words can either be translated in present tense or future tense . these words can in no way be translated into past tense . So when this verse was revealed to prophet Mohammad there were so many انبیاء and it is a non ending continuous process . Now keeping in mind the verse 21 of sura 3 ( already discussed above ) , which clearly indicates that so many prophets انبیاء were present in the times of prophet Mohammad . This verse no 40 of sura 33 is declaring that Mohammad was the seal of the prophets , which simply means He was the appointing authority of other prophets.***  
 
I challenged you repeatedly to give just one name of a prophet at the time of the prophet who was given Al-Quran and one today (as any rational person hearing this would ask you). Of course haven’t done this to date, yet, you want to offer as hard fact that prophets existed with the prophet who was given Al-Quran and today.  
 
You rejected where Allah says that He is ever sending messengers and not prophets. I asked you to provide the ayat where Allah says that He is ever sending prophets, but you through that behind your back as well. Why?, because no such ayat exists which states such a thing.  
 
So, you want to claim that Khatim nabiyeem doesn’t mean last prophet, but you cannot prove that any prophets came after him. What kind of sense does that make??  
 
I give you 2:2 to prove that a book came before Al-Quran and 2:4 to prove that Al-Quran came to some sinle male. What do you do…threw it all right behind your back.  
 
Nargis, there is arguing with you, because you don’t respect facts.  
 
Let me ask you and Moazzam the following:  
 
1. When people first heard ayat 2:2 recited by the person who was given Al-Quran, who do you think they thought it was referring to?  
 
2.According to Al-Quran, when people first saw the person who was given Al-Quran, did they see a male or a female?  
 
Then I confronted you with the following...but no rebuttal:  
 
***"Nargis: Just have to answer this, Dogmas that the Quran is different from Injeel and Taurah, and Allah is giving different kind of books when the purpose of nazala in any scripture is to esbalish DEEN. "***  
 
WOW! Now you’re changing your story now! Good!  
 
Your previous position was:  
 
***Al-Quran is the First, the last, THE ONLY REVELATION given to mankind***  
 
Now you’re saying:  
 
***the purpose of nazala IN ANY scripture***  
 
“Any” suggests a number of things and differentiation, hence, Al-Quran (nazala/sent down in 2:185 and given to the individual in 2:4; nazala is not directionally” down”, but directionally “from Allah to” a particular male human being/prophet ) is not exactly the same as prior scriptures nor was it revealed before the other scriptures.  
 
6:106 Follow that which is revealed to thee from thy Lord — there is no god but He; and turn away from the polytheists.  
 
5:3…This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as a religion…  
 
2:185 The month of Ramadan is that in which the Quran was revealed, a guidance to men and clear proofs of the guidance and the Criterion…  
 
2:4 And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee and that which was revealed before thee, and of the Hereafter they are sure.  
 
All the scriptures before Al-Quran proclaimed 6:106 as the core Message and, yes, to established the Deen. However, Deen Al-Islam was NOT perfected/completed until the coming of this “particular kitab”, that being, Al-Quran (nazala/sent down in 2:185 and given to the individual in 2:4). Ayat 2:4 TELLS any rational person that something was revealed before Al-Quran. In fact, ayat 2:2 doesn’t say-- “THIS/HADTHA” BOOK, but “THAT/THALIKA” BOOK, which also means this Al-Quran opens by pointing BACK to another book. Ayat 2:4 backs up 2:2.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Nargis-Badshah-Salamat On 26 August 2011Report Abuse
I agree that the there is no mention of Muhammad and probably not in any other ayat for that matter. I began to use the “name” Muhammad only for convenience, as do you, because there is no solid proof that is a proper name. That is why I used to use the term—Last Prophet, however, you deny that Khatim nabiyeem means last prophet and then you wrote the following:  
 
3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment.  
 

Yes, The word khatim doesn't mean to stop, word for that is Akhir.  
 
the verse 3:21 is saying, announce a painful torment for THOSE WHO KILL THE PROPHETS WITHOUT RIGHT  
 
who is going to announce this, when the prophets (in plural) are being killed?  
 

* If this order is given to Prophet Mohammed only, then how can he announce painful torment for THOSE WHO KILL PROPHETS, when he is the only prophet of his time?  
 
* REFLECT

3:21 does NOT mention any name, so I cant produce names from myself. I don't go out of the Quran and cannot add words to the Quran because you want me to produce names. I'm not into names because the Quran is not into names, rather it is telling you attributes. The Quran encompass every character or attribute who is doing a certain task as described in the Quran.  
 
We have said it many times but you don't read, Nabi is a task, not a name reserved only for few people in the world, who is not even here. If Nabi is a pre historical thing, then it have no value for us and the next generations. Read through the Quran and you will see Nabis issue orders and implement Wahy.  
 
Why is he last NAbi and not last Rusool? Can you name Rusools after him  
? Because obviously there is a continuation of rusools....but not Nabi's, according to your understanding.  
 
We keep it to the Quran and its own method of providing information.  
 
Please explain every ayah you are using/ posting to back up your claims. and prove every claim through the Quran,


Comments by: Universal-Lanati On 26 August 2011Report Abuse
DHULQARNAIN:-  
You wrote few lines and I want to know which book are you referring to???  
 
See this what you wrote :-  
 
DHULQARNAIN: 3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment.  
 
6:106 Follow that which is revealed to thee from thy Lord — there is no god but He; and turn away from the polytheists.  
 
5:3…This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as a religion…  
 
2:185 The month of Ramadan is that in which the Quran was revealed, a guidance to men and clear proofs of the guidance and the Criterion…  
 
2:4 And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee and that which was revealed before thee, and of the Hereafter they are sure.  
 
ME : These lines are taken from which book???

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 27 August 2011Report Abuse
Nargis,  
 
DHULQARNAIN-I agree that the there is no mention of Muhammad ina ayat 2:4 and probably not in any other ayat for that matter. I began to use the “name” Muhammad only for convenience, as do you, because there is no solid proof that is a proper noun. That is why I used to use the term—Last Prophet, however, you deny that Khatim nabiyeem means last prophet and then you wrote the following:  
 
3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment.  
***3:21 does NOT mention any name, so I cant produce names from myself***  
 
Nargis, when you, and rightly so, called me on using Muhammad as a proper noun, I conceded the point to you, because I cannot prove that it is a proper noun, no problem. Muhammad, according to the grammar, is a nominative proper noun which can mean either a proper noun or an abstract idea. Now, you admit that you cannot produce a name of a prophet to prove you assertion concerning 3:21, hence, you likewise, need to concede the point as you cannot prove your claim no more than I could. In light of these facts, Khatim Nabiyeen must remain as the Last of the Prophet as you cannot, definitely, name any other prophets after the last one who was given Al-Quran.  
 
***I don't go out of the Quran and cannot add words to the Quran because you want me to produce names. I'm not into names because the Quran is not into names, rather it is telling you attributes. The Quran encompass every character or attribute who is doing a certain task as described in the Quran.***  
 
It doesn’t matter that you are not into name Nargis. What matters is what Allah is into. Consider the following ayat:  
 
2:124 And when his Lord tried Abraham with certain commands he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make thee a leader of men. (Abraham) said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the wrongdoers, said He.  
 
According to the grammar, Abraham is a masculine proper noun which means it is the actual name of the individual, unlike, the situation with Muhammad. Abraham is the actual name of the individual just as Nargis is the actual name of an individual. Allah, further on in the ayat, refers to Abraham in the 2nd person masculine singular. Hence, in 2:124, we have a definite proper noun/name who is identified as a single male. This is the grammar Nargis and you just can’t discard it when it is not convenient for you.  
 
***We have said it many times but you don't read, Nabi is a task, not a name reserved only for few people in the world, who is not even here. If Nabi is a pre historical thing, then it have no value for us and the next generations. Read through the Quran and you will see Nabis issue orders and implement Wahy.***  
 
You’re back to using the present imperfect tense in regard to nabi. In light of the above you must step back from referring to nabi in the present tense until you can definitively name a prophet which you’ve already admitted that you cannot.  
You couldn’t be more wrong Nargis. Consider the following ayat:  
 
19:41 And mention Abraham in the Book. Surely he was a truthful man, a prophet.  
 
While I agree that each nabi was given a task, nabi, nonetheless, is also an actual title. Abraham, as we’ve established, is a proper noun/name, hence,was an actual historical human being, and he carried the title/name prophet/nabi. This, once again, is the grammar. Prophets were historical. Pre-historic simply means before written recorded history. Prophets, in and of themselves, aren’t what’s of value (though there’s no denying their value as human beings who carried out a task assigned to them by Allah.). What’s of value is what they were given by Allah to share with their respective peoples. The following ayat captures this truth:  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
Please remember that the individual who was given Al-Quran was messenger-prophet  
 
***Why is he last NAbi and not last Rusool? Can you name Rusools after him  
? Because obviously there is a continuation of rusools....but not Nabi's, according to your understanding.***  
 
It’s the last of the prophets, because there is no longer any need for them. In ayat 5:3 Allah tells the prophet, who was given Al-Quran, the following:  
 
5:3…This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as your Deen…  
 
Clearly, what was the given the prophet, who was given Al-Quran, was the completed Deen—Al-Islam. You will note that Al-Islam is with the definite article. This means that it is prefect/complete in totality. It is the same thing as one of Allah’s descriptions preceded by the definite article. It means perfect/complete in that description. Given that that the Deen is completed and perfect of what need then are prophets after the one who was given the completed Deen as articulated within the Guidance that is Al-Quran? Now, Allah says that:  
 
44:5 A command from Us — truly We are ever sending messengers —  
 
You asked if I can name a messenger today and the answer is yes--Al-Quran, to wit:  
 
6:19 Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me. And this Quran has been revealed to me that with it I may warn you and WHOMEVER IT REACHES...  
Al-Quran is the Message/Messenger.  
 
You and I, for examples, are messengers. We are not of THE Messengers, but, nonetheless, we are messengers. Anyone who recites Al-Quran to others is a messenger. One day I was watching Glenn Beck a popular Christian right of center talk show host. Well on one episode he recited the following in an attempt to show how Muslims were misguided...ironic isn't it?  
 
5:72-3 Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Mary. And the Messiah said: O Children of Israel, serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, Allah has forbidden to him the Garden and his abode is the Fire. And for the wrongdoers there will be no helpers. Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah is the third of the three. And there is no God but One God. And if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement will surely befall such of them as disbelieve.  
 
What an absolutely powerful message he recited that day without even knowing it! What he recited to his audience that day, as you know, is absolutely accurate. He delivered the Message to his audience. This is why Allah says that He is ever sending messengers.  
 
Now you know why there is no need for prophets, hence, that is why none can be found today, but messengers for Allah continue in..."every era".  
 
Regarding wahy. Technically speaking, only the prophet who was given Al-Quran had wahy:  
 
6:106 Follow that which is revealed to thee from thy Lord — there is no god but He; and turn away from the mushrikeen.  
 
When he recited the wahy it wasn't the wahy the people were getting, but a hadith/report. For example:  
 
39:23 Allah has revealed the best HADEETH, a Book consistent, repeating (its injunctions), whereat do shudder the skins of those who fear their Lord, then their skins and their hearts soften to Allah’s remembrance. This is Allah’s guidance — He guides with it whom He pleases. And he whom Allah leaves in error, there is no guide for him.  
 
There is a fine distinction between wahy and hadith Al-Quran.  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 
 

Comments by: Perwez1 On 27 August 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqarnain:-  
I noticed Universal Lanti asked a very important question but as usual you ignored his question too. Now I will ask you the same question.  
 
You quoted something in your last post and I am reproducing it below :-  
DHULQARNAIN: 3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment.  
2:124 And when his Lord tried Abraham with certain commands he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make thee a leader of men. (Abraham) said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the wrongdoers, said He.  
19:41 And mention Abraham in the Book. Surely he was a truthful man, a prophet.  
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
5:3…This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as your Deen…  
44:5 A command from Us — truly We are ever sending messengers —  
6:19 Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me. And this Quran has been revealed to me that with it I may warn you and WHOMEVER IT REACHES...  
5:72-3 Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Mary. And the Messiah said: O Children of Israel, serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, Allah has forbidden to him the Garden and his abode is the Fire. And for the wrongdoers there will be no helpers. Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah is the third of the three. And there is no God but One God. And if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement will surely befall such of them as disbelieve.  
6:106 Follow that which is revealed to thee from thy Lord — there is no god but He; and turn away from the mushrikeen.  
39:23 Allah has revealed the best HADEETH, a Book consistent, repeating (its injunctions), whereat do shudder the skins of those who fear their Lord, then their skins and their hearts soften to Allah’s remembrance. This is Allah’s guidance — He guides with it whom He pleases. And he whom Allah leaves in error, there is no guide for him.  
 
 
PERWEZ: Universal-Lanti has raised a very important question and I am very impressed. My question is same :-  
 
THESE LINES YOU QUOTED ARE TAKEN FROM WHICH BOOK ???  

Comments by: naeem sheikh On 27 August 2011Report Abuse
Sister Nargis,Perwez! How can you make a person listening, when he does wear THE AIR TIGHT EAR PLUGS in his both ears( THE DEAF)?.  
And how can you make seeing if a black man does cover his eye with BLACK GLASESS.?  
How can you make the silli/dull minded sharp?.  
EVERY LEARNER MUST GO THROUGH THE BASIC TERMINOLOGIES FIRST TO GRASP ON THE RELEVANT FIELD (DESCIPLINE)OF KNOLEDGE  
THE POOR AIL DHULQARNAIN IS ONE OF THE aryal tattu , WHO IS EVEN NOT READY TO READ THE MOST IMPORTANT QURANIC TERMINOLOGIES (PERSISTANTLY OVER LOOKING), HE IS HERE AT THIS BLOG TO MAKE YOU CHANGE.

Comments by: Universal-Lanati On 27 August 2011Report Abuse
 
You asked if I can name a messenger today and the answer is yes--Al-Quran, to wit:  
Dhulqarnain  
 
Name even ONE place where the Quran is called THE messenger? Where is the Quran called ALRUSOOL?  
 
It’s the last of the prophets, because there is no longer any need for them. In ayat 5:3 Allah tells the prophet, who was given Al-Quran, the following: 5:3…This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as your Deen… Dhulqarnain  
 
Where in 5:3 does it say Nabis are not NEEDED? And tell you what day this is, is it in month of Ramadan, did the Quran nazala at once?  
 
IF THE NABIS ARE NOT NEEDED AFTER THIS DAY, IT MEANS THE NABI WHO IS GIVEN THIS IS NOT NEEDED EITHER, DID HE DIE AFTER THIS DAY?  
 
DHULQARNAIN: 3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment.  
2:124 And when his Lord tried Abraham with certain commands he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make thee a leader of men. (Abraham) said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the wrongdoers, said He.  
19:41 And mention Abraham in the Book. Surely he was a truthful man, a prophet.  
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
5:3…This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as your Deen…  
44:5 A command from Us — truly We are ever sending messengers —  
6:19 Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me. And this Quran has been revealed to me that with it I may warn you and WHOMEVER IT REACHES...  
5:72-3 Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Mary. And the Messiah said: O Children of Israel, serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, Allah has forbidden to him the Garden and his abode is the Fire. And for the wrongdoers there will be no helpers. Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah is the third of the three. And there is no God but One God. And if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement will surely befall such of them as disbelieve.  
6:106 Follow that which is revealed to thee from thy Lord — there is no god but He; and turn away from the mushrikeen.  
39:23 Allah has revealed the best HADEETH, a Book consistent, repeating (its injunctions), whereat do shudder the skins of those who fear their Lord, then their skins and their hearts soften to Allah’s remembrance. This is Allah’s guidance — He guides with it whom He pleases. And he whom Allah leaves in error, there is no guide for him.  
 
THESE LINES ALONG WITH OTHERS YOU QUOTED ARE TAKEN FROM WHICH BOOK ???

Comments by: Nargis On 27 August 2011Report Abuse

Naeem Sheikh is absolutely right. Should have listened to you earlier. He don't know the Quran, only other books we don't know who wrote for him. look at how he totally overlooked the verse 3:21 , who is saying, announce a painful torment for THOSE WHO KILL THE PROPHETS WITHOUT RIGHT

who is going to announce this, when the prophets (in plural) are being killed? * If this order is given to Prophet Mohammed only, then how can he announce painful torment for THOSE WHO KILL PROPHETS, when he is the only prophet of his time?

Dhulqarnain, I think I will let you be in your darkness you call light. Unless you read the books and the terminologies. If your not INTERESTED, then we are not interested in this Christian converted Qadianyism presentation. Either you read our research, and debate from that with proofs and no personal inferences like Quran is Al Rusool etc., or you keep your Christian Qadianyism for yourself. If you have made up your mind and there is nothing you can learn, then you have nothing to do here,because here the platform is for learning. And NOT orthodox stupidity, but the Quraniq terminologies and content purely. At least I'm done with this boring stuff. I haven't learn even one mg of something new-  
 
You should tell Perwez and Universal what book you are quoting?


Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 27 August 2011Report Abuse
DHULQARNAIN- You asked if I can name a messenger today and the answer is yes--Al-Quran, to wit:  
Dhulqarnain  
 
***Name even ONE place where the Quran is called THE messenger? Where is the Quran called ALRUSOOL?***  
 
Al-Quran is not called the messenger directly, however, it is identified as such nonetheless.  
 
8:20 O you who believe, obey Allah and His Messenger and turn not away from Him while you hear.  
When one obeys the messenger what exactly is one obeying? The only answer is the message-Al-Quran. The following ayat makes this clear:  
 
84:21 And when the Quran is recited to them they do not make obeisance?  
 
Clearly, the message is the messenger and is to obeyed.  
 
Consider these ayats as well:  
 
14:4 Messenger sent in the language of the people to make things clear.  
 
41:44 And if We had made the Quran in a foreign tongue they would certainly said: Why have not its ayats been made clear? What! A foreign language and Arabian!  
 
26:194-199 Upon your that you maybe of the warners. In plain Arabic language. And most surely is in the scriptures of the ancients. And if we had revealed it in to any of the foreigners so that he should have recited it to them, they would not have believed.  
 
These ayats discuss the necessity of the Message from Allah, Al-Quran in our time period/era, to be in the language of the particular people in question. I speak English, hence, the Message of Allah would have to be in English. No prophet brought me Al-Quran, but a particular person many years did bring me Al-Quran, hence, he was a messenger. Consider this scenario. Just suppose I had been walking and discovered Al-Quran on a park bench and began to read it, then, after x number of days of reflection, I decide to embrace its teaching. Well, Al-Quran, being in my language, was also The Messenger to me. I’ve brought Al-Quran to many others making me a messenger as well. In other words, a messenger brings a message.  
 
It’s the last of the prophets, because there is no longer any need for them. In ayat 5:3 Allah tells the prophet, who was given Al-Quran, the following: 5:3…This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as your Deen… Dhulqarnain  
 
***Where in 5:3 does it say Nabis are not NEEDED??***  
 
It doesn’t, but if they were needed, as they were in the past, then simply name one prophet who was alive at the time of the prophet and one prophet today. If they are here and are important we need at least one name to prove your assertion. If the thrust of your question is prove that prophets are still needed, then produce your proof and name one alive today. If you cannot meet this challenge then your argument is invalid. If you stay with your assertion and cannot produce concrete proof then you are following something blindly. The following ayat shows that prophets are not as important as the message they were given to announce. Remember now, per ayat 7:157, “Muhammad” is a messenger-prophet.  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
***And tell you what day this is, is it in month of Ramadan, did the Quran nazala at once? ***  
 
Whatever Ramadan is/was, that was when Al-Quran, all at once, was given to “Muhammad”. The following ayat proves that “Muhammad” was given Al-Quran all at once:  
 
25:33 And they cannot bring thee a question, but We have brought thee the truth and the best explanation.  
If he didn’t have Al-Quran all at once, then he could have been asked a question which could not have been answered immediately. Or do you believe “Muhammad” would contact Allah and say..”I have a question for you…” or do you believe that Allah waited around for people to ask questions and then He would send Jibril to “Muhammad” with the answer.  
 
*** IF THE NABIS ARE NOT NEEDED AFTER THIS DAY, IT MEANS THE NABI WHO IS GIVEN THIS IS NOT NEEDED EITHER, DID HE DIE AFTER THIS DAY***  
 
Yes, he eventually did die, yet, Al-Quran, The Message/Messenger from Allah, continues. So, there is no need for him today. There can be no other prophet, because there will be no other messages from Allah. Allah, per ayat 5:3, makes it clear that with the advent of “Muhammad”, and Al-Quran given him, the Deen was/is now complete.  
 
***THESE LINES ALONG WITH OTHERS YOU QUOTED ARE TAKEN FROM WHICH BOOK ???***  
 
They are the English translation of Al-Quran.  
 
NARGIS: 3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment.  
The above quote is from Nargis, not me. I don’t know how my got attached to her quote.  
 
2:124 And when his Lord tried Abraham with certain commands he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make thee a leader of men. (Abraham) said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the wrongdoers, said He.  
 
19:41 And mention Abraham in the Book. Surely he was a truthful man, a prophet.  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
5:3…This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as your Deen…  
 
44:5 A command from Us — truly We are ever sending messengers —  
 
6:19 Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me. And this Quran has been revealed to me that with it I may warn you and WHOMEVER IT REACHES...  
 
5:72-3 Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Mary. And the Messiah said: O Children of Israel, serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, Allah has forbidden to him the Garden and his abode is the Fire. And for the wrongdoers there will be no helpers. Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah is the third of the three. And there is no God but One God. And if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement will surely befall such of them as disbelieve.  
 
6:106 Follow that which is revealed to thee from thy Lord — there is no god but He; and turn away from the mushrikeen.  
 
39:23 Allah has revealed the best HADEETH, a Book consistent, repeating (its injunctions), whereat do shudder the skins of those who fear their Lord, then their skins and their hearts soften to Allah’s remembrance. This is Allah’s guidance — He guides with it whom He pleases. And he whom Allah leaves in error, there is no guide for him.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 27 August 2011Report Abuse
***Sister Nargis,Perwez! How can you make a person listening, when he does wear THE AIR TIGHT EAR PLUGS in his both ears( THE DEAF)?. And how can you make seeing if a black man does cover his eye with BLACK GLASESS.? How can you make the silli/dull minded sharp?. .***  
 
naeem, first modudi and now you, no problem. Your post is nothing but a racist diatribe and a clear statement that you cannot refute my arguments. For ever how long I remain at aastana blog, I have nothing further to say to you.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 27 August 2011Report Abuse
NARGIS,  
 
***NARGIS: Naeem Sheikh is absolutely right.***  
 
***NAEEEM: Nargis,Perwez! How can you make a person listening, when he does wear THE AIR TIGHT EAR PLUGS in his both ears( THE DEAF)?. And how can you make seeing if a black man does cover his eye with BLACK GLASESS.? How can you make the silli/dull minded sharp?.***  
 
Apparently, you agree with his racist statement. Well, it’s obvious NOW how you feel and what you’re about.  
 
Anyway, moving on.  
 
***Should have listened to you earlier. He don't know the Quran, only other books we don't know who wrote for him. look at how he totally overlooked the verse 3:21 , who is saying, announce a painful torment for THOSE WHO KILL THE PROPHETS WITHOUT RIGHT who is going to announce this, when the prophets (in plural) are being killed? * If this order is given to Prophet Mohammed only, then how can he announce painful torment for THOSE WHO KILL PROPHETS, when he is the only prophet of his time?**  
 
Consider the following, then:  
 
QATALA/QAF-TA-LAM/KILL: to kill; put to death; slay; BE ACCUSED; attempt to kill; RENDER PERSON LIKE ONE  
 
KILLED. Dictionary of the Quran by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg, 442  
 
KILL: to deprive of life in any manner; cause the death of; slay. to destroy; do away with; extinguish: His response killed our hopes. to destroy or neutralize the active qualities of: to kill an odor. to spoil the effect of. mark for deletion, rub off, or erase; "kill these lines in the President's speech.  
 
Clearly, both in English and Arabic kill/qatala has a non-physical application. Slander is a form of killing—it is aimed at a soul or souls character. Many people past and present, (and likely the future), slander and ridicule the prophets of old i.e. Noah, Abraham, Solomon, David, Jesus, and “Muhammad”, in an attempt to “qatala/kill” their teachings from Allah. Many people past and present, (and likely into the future), outright deny the historical existence of the prophets in hopes of extinguishing their teachings from Allah. This is what is being said in 3:21, because if this weren’t the case then ONE OF YOU, by now, would have produced the NAME of at least ONE prophet’s name from the time of “Muhammad” up till now AND what message he brought with him. By your own admission Nargis, you cannot meet this challenge. This is why 33:40 means “Muhammad is the Last of the Prophets”.  
 
***Dhulqarnain, I think I will let you be in your darkness you call light. Unless you read the books and the terminologies. If your not INTERESTED, then we are not interested in this Christian converted Qadianyism presentation. Either you read our research, and debate from that with proofs and no personal inferences like Quran is Al Rusool etc., or you keep your Christian Qadianyism for yourself. If you have made up your mind and there is nothing you can learn, then you have nothing to do here,because here the platform is for learning. And NOT orthodox stupidity, but the Quraniq terminologies and content purely. At least I'm done with this boring stuff. I haven't learn even one mg of something new-  
You should tell Perwez and Universal what book you are quoting?***  
 
I’m sorry to see you chosen to revert back to ad hominine and racist attacks...a sure indication that you and the others cannot sustain your assertions. But, be that as it may, you still have not proved any of your assertions in our discussion. You, and the others here, have simply attempted to redefined certain terms, labeling them—“terminologies”, and then pass them off as Quranic dogma. This simply cannot happen. Al-Quran is a protected book.  
 
Allah says:…And there is NONE to change the words of Allah…  
 
6:34 And messengers indeed were rejected before thee, but they were patient when rejected and persecuted, until Our help came to them. And there is none to change the words of Allah. And there has already come to thee some information about the messengers.  
 
You, and the others, are angry and getting angrier, because via my arguments ayat 6:34 is proving some of your “terminologies” to be inaccurate. If you people weren’t so closed minded, stubborn, conceited, and yes, RACIST! you just might learn something…new.  
 
Anyway, you’re back to square one in regard to 3:21; 43:45; 3:144  
 
Here's the question again:  
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
 
HOW COULD "MUHAMMAD" or, if you prefer, the male individual who was given Al-Quran, HAVE ASKED THE PRIOR MESSENGERS...ANYTHING, as they were all dead when he came on the world stage?  
 
Do any of you Masters/Scholars of Al-Quran have an answer, yet?  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 
 

Comments by: Perwez1 On 28 August 2011Report Abuse
DHULQARNAIN: naeem, first modudi and now you, no problem. Your post is nothing but a racist diatribe and a clear statement that you cannot refute my arguments.  
 
PERWEZ: What is the basis of your arguments? Where are you quoting the references from ???  
It is you who cannot refute the arguments by me and Universal-Lanati and that is why you are constantly ignoring all our questions. Who is running away???  
 
DHULQARNAIN: Apparently, you agree with his racist statement. Well, it’s obvious NOW how you feel and what you’re about.  
 
PERWEZ: I think no one should criticize or degrade anyone on the basis of RACE and/or GENDER. You are so ignorant that you cannot even see who started all this !!!  
It is you Dhulqarnain who started gender discrimination by sharing references from orthodox translations which are already rejected by aastana. It is you who degraded women on the basis of their gender. It was you who started attacking one female participant using personal remarks. Discrimination is discrimination whether it is on the basis of race or gender. If you use such discriminatory words against a woman in your country, if you tell her that she is a thing which you possess in your right hand even if she is your wife and not a stranger I can guarantee you that you will end up behind the bars.  
Tell me one thing :-  
Has anyone said anything to you before you started using bad language for Nargis?  
I think whatever you heard afterwards was a reaction of a discriminatory comments you used against a female participant.  
IT IS YOU WHO VIOLATED THE CODE OF CONDUCT FOR AASTANA.  
FOR YOUR REFERENCE :-  
5. Utmost respect for humanity is the basic policy. Therefore, civil manners, decency and politeness are advocated.  
6. No kind of rigidity, extremism, air of authority, religious edicts or final words are employed.  
8. Use of impolite, offensive or abusive language and personal remarks of derogatory nature would disqualify you from AastanaBlog's membership.  
 
YOU VIOLATED THE CODE OF CONDUCT BY USING PERSONAL REMARKS FOR A FEMALE MEMBER.  
WHY ARE YOU SHOWING SO MUCH ATTITUDE THEN???  
 
BY SAYING ALL THIS I DON"T MEAN TO SAY AT ALL THAT RACIST REMARKS ARE GOOD. I STRONGLY CONDEMN NOT ONLY ALL KIND OF RACISM BUT ALSO ALL KIND OF GENDER-ISM.  

Comments by: Perwez1 On 28 August 2011Report Abuse
NOW BACK TO THE QUESTION :-  
 
DHULQARNAIN ASKED :-  
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
HOW COULD MUHAMMAD HAVE ASKED THE PRIOR MESSENGERS...ANYTHING?  
 
PERWEZ: My friend, would you mind telling me where you took these lines from?  
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent?  
WHICH BOOK I MEAN?

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 28 August 2011Report Abuse
***PERWEZ: I think no one should criticize or degrade anyone on the basis of RACE and/or GENDER. You are so ignorant that you cannot even see who started all this !!! It is you Dhulqarnain who started gender discrimination by sharing references from orthodox translations which are already rejected by aastana.***  
 
Oh, I see, it’s my fault you use racial slurs.  
 
Sharing referenes…whaaaa?? What are you talking about?  
 
***It is you who degraded women on the basis of their gender. It was you who started attacking one female participant using personal remarks. Discrimination is discrimination whether it is on the basis of race or gender.***  
 
What female member did I attack on the basis of gender and what did I say. Post it.  
 
***If you use such discriminatory words against a woman in your country, if you tell her that she is a thing which you possess in your right hand even if she is your wife and not a stranger I can guarantee you that you will end up behind the bars.***  
 
What the…?? I have no idea what “right hand possession means. Post where I said that Nargis was/is “a right-hand possession! What are you talking about?!  
 
***Tell me one thing :- Has anyone said anything to you before you started using bad language for Nargis? I think whatever you heard afterwards was a reaction of a discriminatory comments you used against a female participant.***  
 
Oh please, you are so full of crap. I had no idea that I insulted Nargis. I’ve gotten to know Nargis for a bit and I do have some affectionate nicknames for her. To express that is simply a cultural thing. Although we contend here, I have nothing but affection and respect for her. I would assume that if I was offensive to her, that she would have excoriated me on the spot, as is her custom to do at times. Nargis does not appear to me to be afraid to express herself on any level. If I was gender offensive to her and knew that, believe me, I would not need the likes of you racist bums to tell me, because I not have done it in the first place. You people calling me the n-word and other racial names has NOTHING to do with Nargis, you phoney. Given that I hurt her feeling in ignorance, why didn’t you or the others simply bring my indiscretion to my attention so that I could apologize? No, the expressing of racial slurs was nothing more than your own pent up frustration of having your precious theories challenged and proven wrong. Using Nargis to justify your racial animus is a load of crap, period. You could certainly have criticized me without using racial slurs, there’s no excuse for it.  
 
Now get lost, you and your question.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Perwez1 On 28 August 2011Report Abuse
ADMINS AND AASTANA MODERATORS:-  
I WANT TO ASK WHY THIS GUY WAS NOT BANNED WITH MODUDI AND PRIEST BOKEMI ???  
 
See his personal, Mocking and abusive remarks about different members :-  
 
DHULQARNAIN : Now get lost, you and your question.  
DHULQARNAIN: And blah blah blah blah blah blah LOL! What a hoot you are!  
DHULQARNAIN: But for now, seeing how you are a supporter of Nargy the Beautiful (and she is beautiful, btw) and Moazzam, AND you've got a bigmouth  
DHULQARNAIN: I knew people would over think think it and do exactly as bigmouth Perwez did. I glad that you weren’t fooled, though.  
DHULQARNAIN: Thank you, Nargy Badass Salamander, the Beautiful! Do you think you can come to America so I can marry you? :D  
DHULQARNAIN: It is sad that you're last two posts were spent mocking rather than defending your position regarding 3:21. You mock because you're busted now and it's the only thing left for you to do, because you can't defend your claim.  
DHULQARNAIN:Waseemameer, I couldn't stop laughing while and after reading your post. I mean my abs and jaws hurt right now.  
DHULQARNAIN: I'm telling you, you Nargis, Junaid, Yellow Cow, and Moazzam, are Masters of Bafflegab, extraordinaire.  
DHULQARNAIN: Dr. Zaman, Moazzam, Nargis, et al,  
As I ‘ve read and tried to understand where you people are coming from, more and more, I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re more grounded in Materialism and Religious Humanism than Al-Islam.  
 
And a lot of his shameful comments were deleted. For example :-  
DHULQARNAIN: MO-DOODY, that’s for damn sure! lol. No, no, you read my post correctly…Pakistani and Indians sisters. Probably your sister! LOL!  
 
And many more comments full of vulgarity which I cannot even quote here !!!

Comments by: moazzam On 28 August 2011
Brother Dhulqarnain!The best offer to run side by side to shoulder the common responsibilities being a Muslim/Quranist. As we all agreed that Alkitab(Quran) is the last and final book/message of Allah, and If Suppose we consider your stance that, Quran(Alkitab) is last and final mesenger(imam) as well (being considering interpretation of verses 36/12,11/17,46/12, the book as an " IMAM/RASOOL)". Then what we have to do? , infact we have to understand this Alkitab by Alkitab IT SELF is itn't?  
SO COME AT COMMON TERMS AMONG US, THAT IS TO INTERPRET THIS BOOK BY THIS BOOK(ALKITAB) ONLY(by keeping away the orthodox translations and by observing ratal al Quran only).  
OK, SET THE MATTER ASIDE, WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THE PERSON WHO IS INTERPRETING(making them understand) THIS BOOK TO THE PEOPLE OF THAT ERA ie IMAM/RASOOL/NABI/TEACHER( this issue could be resolved/discussed later. Are you agree????????  

Comments by: dawood On 28 August 2011Report Abuse
My dear brs. and srs, SA: I am indeed shocked to read some racist comments and observations in this thread and in some others as well. Are we here to learn via decent, well-reasoned, and logical arguments or we are here to pass racist remarks? In research, it is always possible that one is right, somewhat right or out rightly wrong. Some of us are exhibiting an attitude as if they know all and there is no room to disagree with their assertions. If you want someone to see your point of view then present it well, both in terms of writing and reasoning. Once you have done your best then leave it to the other person to take it or discard it. Please avoid personal remarks. Thank you.  
 
OK to be in disagreement over some thoughts/concepts/ideas but it is not OK to be disrespectful If this forum is a research forum, we need to neglect and discard such comments

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 29 August 2011Report Abuse
Moazzam,  
 
***Brother Dhulqarnain!The best offer to run side by side to shoulder the common responsibilities being a Muslim/Quranist.***  
 
No doubt. I very much want to find our common ground, especially, that we both claim to be Quran only and alone, for our guidance.  
 
***As we all agreed that Alkitab(Quran) is the last and final book/message of Allah, and If Suppose we consider your stance that, Quran(Alkitab) is last and final mesenger(imam) as well (being considering interpretation of verses 36/12,11/17,46/12, the book as an " IMAM/RASOOL)". Then what we have to do? , infact we have to understand this Alkitab by Alkitab IT SELF is itn't?***  
 
Just a couple of things.  
 
1. I am very curious about something and perhaps you can clear it up for me. You and Nargis, just for examples, do not put the definite article “al” before Quran, however, you always do before Kitab. Allah, in the main, and depending upon the context, always includes the definite with His Words/Al-Quran. Without the definite article, and once again, depending upon the context, Al-Quran becomes just a qaraa/reading/recital. For example ayats 10:15 and 17:106.  
 
10:15 And when Our clear messages are recited to them, those who have no hope of meeting with Us say: Bring A QURAN other than this or change it. Say: It is not for me to change it of my own accord. I follow naught but what is revealed to me. Indeed I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the chastisement of a grievous day.  
 
Ayat 10:15 is referring to a Quran being brought other than the one Allah revealed. The hadith books and the fiqh books so loved by the Ritualists, are examples of “other qaraa’s/Qurans”.  
 
17:106 And it is A QURAN We have made distinct, so that thou mayest read it to the people by slow degrees, and We have revealed it in portions.  
 
Ayat 17:106, on the other hand, is referring to Al-Quran which Allah revealed.  
 
a) Is it your position that Al-Quran (with the definite article) and Quran(without the definite article) are identically the same thing, that is, comprised of suras 2-114?  
 
b) Is it your position that Al-Kitab and Al-Quran, in all instances, are the identically same thing (comprised of suras 2-114?)  
I need this clarification, because I can’t honestly say that I know how you are using the terms Al-Kitab and Al-Quran in all instances.  
 
Please do not link me to past threads. I would like us to start here afresh.  
 
2. ***and If Suppose we consider your stance that, Quran(Alkitab) is last and final mesenger(imam) as well (being considering interpretation of verses 36/12,11/17,46/12, the book as an " IMAM/RASOOL)***  
No offense, but please et me state my stance in my words  
 
a) Al-Quran is the final revelation/message to humanity.  
 
b) Al-Quran is the messenger to humanity.  
 
***SO COME AT COMMON TERMS AMONG US, THAT IS TO INTERPRET THIS BOOK BY THIS BOOK(ALKITAB) ONLY(by keeping away the orthodox translations and by observing ratal al Quran only).***  
 
1. In discussing our positions, I am only coming from the book—Al-Quran (comprised of suras 2-114), except, when Allah/ it refers the reader to previous kitabs i.e. Torah and Injeel.  
 
2. Just how are you using the term ratil?  
 
3. Many of you use the orthodox translations as well, so, how do any us, effectively, keep away from them?  
 
4. Although I post what you and others call orthodox translations, I am checking to see if the English terms and the Arabic terms, match. I am not accepting the orthodox translations without first checking the words  
 
5. Al-Quran must come to me in my language as it has come to you in yours, Urdu. There is simply no way around this.  
 
14:4 And We did not send any messenger but with the language of his people, so that he might explain to them clearly; then Allah makes whom He pleases err and He guides whom He pleases and He is the Mighty, the Wise.  
 
***OK, SET THE MATTER ASIDE, WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THE PERSON WHO IS INTERPRETING(making them understand) THIS BOOK TO THE PEOPLE OF THAT ERA ie IMAM/RASOOL/NABI/TEACHER( this issue could be resolved/discussed later. Are you agree????????***  
 
Allah, according to His Words/Al-Quran, says the following:  
 
1. He/Allah teaches Al-Quran and He never told anyone to…interpret Al-Quran, but only to recite it and He will teach it.  
 
55:1-2 The Beneficent. Taught the Quran.  
 
96:5 Taught man what he knew not.  
 
65:11 A messenger who recites to you the clear communications of Allah…  
 
98:2 A messenger from Allah, reciting pure pages,  
 
 
2. Allah makes things clear.  
 
2:242 Allah thus makes clear to you His ayats that you may understand.  
 
 
3. Al-Quran explains itself.  
 
25:33 And they cannot bring you a question, but We have brought you the truth and the best explanation.  
The point of the above ayats was to make clear to you that there are no designated interpreters or teacher/teachers of Al-Quran. This what the so-called ulema/mullahs have attempted to do. I only want a true translation of Allah’s clear Al-Quran. As a nabi, “Muhammad did not “teach” Al-Quran nor did he interpret it. His teaching was only to recite clearly and accurately what he was commanded.  
 
The Messenger—Al-Quran, does not interpret, it teaches. We, as messengers, meaning, we bring to people’s attention Al-Quran only and alone, meaning, we bring them an accurate translation of Al-Quran, but not an interpretation of Al-Quran.  
 
Aastana Blog, unfortunately, has been more involved with interpretation, which invariably is conjecturing, than translation which is accurate reporting. Interpretation is contrary to the teaching of Al-Quran. For example, the translation of Allah is—The God. Some here at aastana have now interpreted “Allah” to mean the Islamic State. Now, there is no ayat that can be posted that will translate Allah as the Islamic State, hence, this is an interpretation.  
 
These are my positions. I am looking forward to a clean, productive, and sincere discussion of these issues, as I’m sure you are.  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 29 August 2011Report Abuse
Nargis,  
 
Are you going to reply to the following or are you now going to bow out of the discussion, leaving those who may read this later on, with no proof from you for your assertion on 3:21?  
 
NARGIS: 3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment.  
 
***NARGIS: In this verse the verbs used are not in past tense ,the verbs are  
یکفرون یقتلون These words can either be translated in present tense or future tense . these words can in no way be translated into past tense . So when this verse was revealed to prophet Mohammad there were so many انبیاء and it is a non ending continuous process . Now keeping in mind the verse 21 of sura 3 ( already discussed above ) , which clearly indicates that so many prophets انبیاء were present in the times of prophet Mohammad . This verse no 40 of sura 33 is declaring that Mohammad was the seal of the prophets , which simply means He was the appointing authority of other prophets.***  
 
***Should have listened to you earlier. He don't know the Quran, only other books we don't know who wrote for him. look at how he totally overlooked the verse 3:21 , who is saying, announce a painful torment for THOSE WHO KILL THE PROPHETS WITHOUT RIGHT who is going to announce this, when the prophets (in plural) are being killed? * If this order is given to Prophet Mohammed only, then how can he announce painful torment for THOSE WHO KILL PROPHETS, when he is the only prophet of his time?**  
 
Consider the following, then:  
 
QATALA/QAF-TA-LAM/KILL: to kill; put to death; slay; BE ACCUSED; attempt to kill; RENDER PERSON LIKE ONE  
 
KILLED. Dictionary of the Quran by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg, 442  
 
KILL: to deprive of life in any manner; cause the death of; slay. to destroy; do away with; extinguish: His response killed our hopes. to destroy or neutralize the active qualities of: to kill an odor. to spoil the effect of. mark for deletion, rub off, or erase; "kill these lines in the President's speech.  
 
Clearly, both in English and Arabic, kill/qatala has a non-physical application. Slander is a form of killing—it is aimed at a soul or souls character. Many people past and present, (and likely the future), slander and ridicule the prophets of old i.e. Noah, Abraham, Solomon, David, Jesus, and “Muhammad”, in an attempt to “qatala/kill” their teachings from Allah. Many people past and present, (and likely into the future), outright deny the historical existence of the prophets in hopes of extinguishing their teachings from Allah. This is what is being said in 3:21, because if this weren’t the case then ONE OF YOU, by now, would have produced the NAME of at least ONE prophet’s name from the time of “Muhammad” up till now AND what message he brought with him. By your own admission Nargis, you cannot meet this challenge. This is why 33:40 means “Muhammad is the Last of the Prophets”.  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Perwez1 On 29 August 2011Report Abuse
THE BEST ANSWER FOR DHULQARNAIN :-  
 
NOW GET LOST, YOU AND YOUR QUESTION.  
 
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Comments by: moazzam On 29 August 2011
Dear Dhulqarnain: salam  
Dhulqrrnain: Is it your position that Al-Quran (with the definite article) and Quran(without the definite article) are identically the same thing?  
 
b) Is it your position that Al-Kitab and Al-Quran, in all instances, are the identically same thing?  
Moazzam: ALKITAB= ALQURAN(27/1, 15/15)  
The ense of KITAB and QURAN depends upon its cotext  
1)The sense of Quran could be comprehende by reading the verses42/7,17/106,36/59,12/2,10/15,17/7820/113,it means when explained/ interpret this Alquran/Alkitab to the people by the rasool of the time.  
2) KITAB= The verses and subjects written in tis Alkitab/Alquran see the verse 98/3, there are many kutub in this Alkitab.  
To comprehend the sense of word KITAB please read the verses 18/27,2/89,5/15,6/92,6/155,7/21,7/52,11/1211/17,21/10,23/62  
Nuzool min alkitab means what you understand from the message written in alkitab.  
Dhulqarnain : My stance is.  
a) Al-Quran is the final revelation/message to humanity. b) Al-Quran is the messenger to humanity.  
Moazzam: Yes Alquran is the last and final message of Allah and messenger as well (verses 36/12,11/17,46/12)  
***SO COME AT COMMON TERMS AMONG US, THAT IS TO INTERPRET THIS BOOK BY THIS BOOK(ALKITAB) ONLY(by keeping away the orthodox translations and by observing ratal al Quran only).***  
Dhulqarnain: In discussing our positions, I am only coming from the book—Al-Quran (comprised of suras 2-114), except, when Allah/ it refers the reader to previous kitabs i.e. Torah and Injeel.  
Moazzam; ok stay in Alquran/Alkitab.  
Dhulqarnain: how using the term ratil?  
Moazzam: Read the verses 25/32,73/4, it means to understand Alquran/terminologies by using the context,tasreef, core message of quran,appropriate selection of meanings of words from lexicon and grammar.  
 
Dhulqarnain:Although I post what you and others call orthodox translations, I am checking to see if the English terms and the Arabic terms, match. I am not accepting the orthodox translations without first checking the words  
Moazzam; Its good,but better to know the Quranic arabic language, we don't trust at Orthodox, therefore trying our best to understand the true sense of Alquran by RATAL ALQURAN.  
Dhulqarnain:Al-Quran must come to me in my language as it has come to you in yours, Urdu. There is simply no way around this.  
Moazzam: Yes. .  
Dhulqarnain: I only want a true translation of Allah’s clear Al-Quran.  
Moazzam: You can't translate the Alquran/terminologies because it is written in its unique farmate/style,rather can be understood its message by ratal.  
Dhulqarnain: As a nabi, “Muhammad did not “teach” Al-Quran nor did he interpret it. His teaching was only to recite clearly and accurately what he was commanded.  
Moazzam: See the verse 75/16, the rasool/Nabi/Hadi/imam of the time must elaborate the Quranic message according to his time/era.Therefore, the continuation of Risalat has been mentioned in Alquran.  
Dhulqarnain:The Messenger—Al-Quran, does not interpret, it teaches. We, as messengers, meaning, we bring to people’s attention Al-Quran only and alone, meaning, we bring them an accurate translation of Al-Quran, but not an interpretation of Al-Quran.  
Moazzam: yes,alquran explains itself,and the prophet of the time will elaborate /explain it to implement according to his era.  
Dhulqarnain:Aastana, has been more involved with interpretation, which invariably is conjecturing, than translation which is accurate reporting. Interpretation is contrary to the teaching of Al-Quran. For example, the translation of Allah is—The God. Some here at aastana have now interpreted “Allah” to mean the Islamic State. Now, there is no ayat that can be posted that will translate Allah as the Islamic State, hence, this is an interpretation.  
Moazzam; We are trying to provide true sense of the message written in Alkitab/Alquran by ratal.

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 29 August 2011Report Abuse
Moazzam,  
 
Thank you for your reply.  
 
***The sense of KITAB and QURAN depends upon its context***  
 
Good deal, I agree.  
 
But would you agree that Al-Quran, although it can be viewed as being a part of a broader book, is a specific kitab unto itself consisting of suras 2-114? I get the sense from you that you do, but I want to be absolutely certain of your position in this regard.  
 
Dhulqarnain : My stance is. a) Al-Quran is the final revelation/message to humanity. b) Al-Quran is the messenger to humanity.  
 
***Moazzam: Yes Alquran is the last and final message of Allah and messenger as well (verses 36/12,11/17,46/12)***  
 
I’m not certain how 36:12 and 11:17 supports your position, but I do see how 46:12 does. I would also like to add ayats 6:19 and 61:6, as well.  
 
46:12 And before it was the Book of Moses, a guide and a mercy. And this is a Book verifying (it) in the Arabic language, that it may warn those who do wrong, and as good news for the doers of good.  
 
6:19 Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me. And this Quran has been revealed to me that with it I may warn you and whomsoever it reaches…  
 
61:6 And when Jesus, son of Mary, said: O Children of Israel, surely I am the messenger of Allah to you, verifying that which is before me of the Torah and giving the good news of a Messenger who will come after me, his name being Ahmad. But when he came to them with clear arguments, they said: This is clear enchantment.  
 
Well, we have our 1st point of agreement: Moazzam: “Yes Alquran is the last and final message of Allah and messenger as well”. We can certainly build from here.  
 
Dhulqarnain: In discussing our positions, I am only coming from the book—Al-Quran (comprised of suras 2-114), except, when Allah/ it refers the reader to previous kitabs i.e. Torah and Injeel.  
 
***Moazzam; ok stay in Alquran/Alkitab.***  
 
Good deal, our 2nd point of agreement.  
 
Dhulqarnain:Al-Quran must come to me in my language as it has come to you in yours, Urdu. There is simply no way around this.  
 
***Moazzam: Yes. ***  
 
Our 3rd point of agreement.  
 
Dhulqarnain: Although I post what you and others call orthodox translations, I am checking to see if the English terms and the Arabic terms, match. I am not accepting the orthodox translations without first checking the words  
 
***Moazzam; Its good,but better to know the Quranic arabic language, we don't trust at Orthodox, therefore trying our best to understand the true sense of Alquran by RATAL ALQURAN.***  
 
We agree, in the main, for the 4th time.  
 
1. I don’t trust the orthodox translation either, although, and I think you will agree with me when I say this, not all of the ayats have been mistranslated.  
 
2. I don’t have to learn the Arabic language in order to understand Al-Quran, but I do need to know, from the Arabic language, the Arabic terms used in Al-Quran.  
 
Although we agree on the above, the following may be points of disagreement, but, after some discussion, maybe we will reach agreement in these areas as well.  
 
***Moazzam: Read the verses 25/32,73/4, it means to understand Alquran/terminologies by using the context,tasreef, core message of quran,appropriate selection of meanings of words from lexicon and grammar.***  
 
Dhulqarnain: how are you using the term ratil?  
 
***Moazzam: therefore trying our best to understand the true sense of Alquran by RATAL ALQURAN. Ratal … Read the verses 25/32,73/4, it means to understand Alquran/terminologies by using the context,tasreef, core message of quran,appropriate selection of meanings of words from lexicon and grammar. ***  
 
I can see your idea that ratila also mean to “read correctly”-Dictionary of the Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg.201.  
 
Now, you have to be careful though, because “reading correctly” can become very subjective very quickly resulting not in translation, but—interpretation. In other words, “reading correctly”, becomes”reading into”. For example: “A man driving a red car fast hits and kills an elderly woman”, can become “A man driving a red sports car, red as we know can affect some emotionally and could have factored in the accident, hits and kills an elderly woman”.  
Again, when you claim that ratia means: “to understand Alquran/terminologies by using the context, tasreef, core message of quran,appropriate selection of meanings of words from lexicon and grammar”, you’re rendering an “interpretation” of the term and not a “translation” of the term. I say this, because there is no ayat , containing the term ratila, which would make one define it as you have. Perhaps there are other terms which would, but not ratila.  
 
I have no problem with using context, tasreef, dictionaries/lexicons, and grammar. Could you though define what you mean by “core message Al-Quran” ?  
 
Dhulqarnain: I only want a true translation of Allah’s clear Al-Quran.  
 
***Moazzam: You can't translate the Alquran/terminologies because it is written in its unique farmate/style,rather can be understood its message by ratal.***  
 
I can’t agree with you here, because Allah, at least from my study of Al-Quran, has placed no restrictions on one translating His Ayats and terminologies. Allah m makes no mention of a “farmate/style”. I will need an ayat which definitively supports your assertion.  
 
Dhulqarnain: As a nabi, “Muhammad did not “teach” Al-Quran nor did he interpret it. His teaching was only to recite clearly and accurately what he was commanded. The Messenger—Al-Quran, does not interpret, it teaches. We, as messengers, meaning, we bring to people’s attention Al-Quran only and alone, meaning, we bring them an accurate translation of Al-Quran, but not an interpretation of Al-Quran.  
 
***Moazzam: See the verse 75/16, the rasool/Nabi/Hadi/imam of the time must elaborate the Quranic message according to his time/era.Therefore, the continuation of Risalat has been mentioned in Alquran. yes,alquran explains itself,and the prophet of the time will elaborate /explain it to implement according to his era.***  
 
This is the exact same position of the Ritualist so-called Muslims. They claim that the prophet, whom they identify as “Muhammad”, must explain/teach and make clear Al-Quran, hence, the necessity of the hadiths and sunna. You’re claiming that the prophet, of any era, must explain/teach and make clear Al-Quran, hence, the necessity of his hadith and sunna. These are the exact same positions. The only difference is, the Riualist so-called Muslims have named the prophet who is to explain/teach and make clear the Al-Quran, whereas, your prophet of any era remains unnamed.  
 
You must keep in mind that, not all of the prophets were messengers. Ibrahim, for an example, was a prophet, but not a messenger-prophet as were Ishmael, Moses, Jesus, and “Muhammad”. Only Ibrahim was given the title of Iman to Al-Nas. Allah makes no mention of any Iman to teach His Quran. Please produce the ayat or ayts which proves your position. Again, with the term prophet, Allah makes no mention of ongoing prophets, however, Allah does say there will be onging messengers. Allah’s message/Al-Quran does not require any prophet, imam, mullah, sheikh, mufti etc. , in any era, to teach it.  
 
Again, if a prophet is to come in any era, since the passing of “Muhammad”, then you must produce at least one name of a prophet who has done as you assert. A name is vital to your assertion, because without one you have no concrete proof, but only a conjecture, do you see?  
 
Dhulqarnain:Aastana, has been more involved with interpretation, which invariably is conjecturing, rather than translation which is accurate reporting. Interpretation is contrary to the teaching of Al-Quran. For example, the translation of Allah is—The God. Some here at aastana have now interpreted “Allah” to mean the Islamic State. Now, there is no ayat that can be posted that will translate Allah as the Islamic State, hence, this is an interpretation.  
 
***Moazzam; We are trying to provide true sense of the message written in Alkitab/Alquran by ratal.***  
 
This is fine, however, "sensing" is not concrete fact, but opinion,conjecture and interpreting. Can you give me the ayat which ontains the word "sense", as fact?  
 
SENSE: .Intellectual interpretation; an intuitive or acquired perception or ability to estimate; a discerning awareness.  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: Nargis On 29 August 2011Report Abuse
“However, "sensing" is not concrete fact, but opinion, conjecture and interpreting. Can you give me the ayat which contains the word "sense", as fact? “

Do you have any better suggestions, another word that replaces sense? We use the word “sense” to describe the meaning, connotation, and wisdom applied in the message through the aya’s. Conveyed by the Qur'an, i.e. what is the substance, TRUE MESSAGE, MEANING conveyed by the message?

“They claim that the prophet, whom they identify as “Muhammad”, must explain/teach and make clear Al-Quran, hence, the necessity of the hadiths and sunna.”  
 

They say the Prophet made ADDITIONAL explanation, which is not to be found in the Quran but in Hadith.We are saying what the Quran say, that he explained the Quran BY the Quran. His explanations are in the Quran, not outside.Make clear the Quran means to make it understandable to everyone

I can’t agree with you here, because Allah, at least from my study of Al-Quran, has placed no restrictions on one translating His Ayats and terminologies. Allah m makes no mention of a “farmate/style”. I will need an ayat which definitively supports your assertion.

He didn’t mean to say it is not allowed, it means it has a special composition which is not making sense if it is translated word by word.  
For example, if you say:- I’m burning  
 
To understand its SENSE, one has to see the context and how YOU use the word burning. It may be apparent that you meant to say you’re burning because you’re angry.  
 
Arabic is a root language, its root describe an object and its functions. Ibrahim can be “translated” to Abraham, but the word Ibrahim means someone who can convince with arguments based on evidence. Now the author of the Quran have used some words and in a special way to preserve it so it reveal itself to the active reader when he use ratil and tasreef, and see the use of the words.  
 
The style can be OBSERVED by the active reader, for example do the Rattal and tasreef under the parameter of the core message of the Quran and make sure you see the appropriate words in order to get the true message. This is in a total synchronization with its own claims, such as there is no contradiction.  
 
RATTIL ALQURANA TARTEELA = TO READ/ PUT/ARRANGE THE VERSES/QASES OF QURAN IN AN OPPROPRIATE MANNERS .SO AS, THE SOLUTIONS TO THE MATTERS UNDER QUESTION MAY BECOME CLEAR TO THE LISTENERS.  
 
The real quranic procedure to elaborate (tafseer) any verse of Quran, ( to understand the true divine message), has been defined in a term “RATAL”, which include the “TASREEF AL AYAT”  
 
Quran never reveals all at once in ones mind, but issue to issue and matter to matter discussions according to the course of RATAL would make you satisfied.  
 
It is because, if, any body comes with a certain/specific issue/matter, you may enlighten him with “the best elaboration”.  
 
وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لَوْلَا نُزِّلَ عَلَيْهِ الْقُرْآنُ جُمْلَةً وَاحِدَةً كَذَلِكَ لِنُثَبِّتَ بِهِ فُؤَادَكَ وَرَتَّلْنَاهُ تَرْتِيلًا 25/32  
 
وَلَا يَأْتُونَكَ بِمَثَلٍ إِلَّا جِئْنَاكَ بِالْحَقِّ وَأَحْسَنَ تَفْسِيرًا 25-33  
 
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF RATAL COULD BE SEEN IN SURAH MUZZAMMIL 73/4  
إِنَّا سَنُلْقِي عَلَيْكَ قَوْلًا ثَقِيلًا  
 
أَوْ زِدْ عَلَيْهِ وَرَتِّلِ الْقُرْآنَ تَرْتِيلًا


Comments by: Saad Haider On 30 August 2011Report Abuse
BY MY BELOVED PERWEZ1 GEE........THE BEST ANSWER FOR DHULQARNAIN :-  
 
NOW GET LOST, YOU AND YOUR QUESTION.  
 
YOU NIGGYWIGGY OR WHATEVER YOU ARE..  
 
 
OHHH yaar tussi baaz nai aao gey???... ki karda ai yaar... kya tu ghar vich phadda shadda kar k aatey hooo jeeeeee??????  
Ohhh.. perwez jee... sada ek friend hai NAFSIYATI doctor... tussi bolo tu terey baarey me discuss shiscuss karonn??? tey ab bura na maniiiiiii.......

Comments by: Perwez1 On 30 August 2011Report Abuse
SAAD GEE O CONTROL YAAR !!!  
TUSSI ZARA MERI POST DE UPAR DHULQARNAIN DA JAWWAB TE WEKHO.  
I JUST REPEATED HIS WORDS :)  
Main koi mahaatma Gandhi te nahi jera pathar da jawaab phul naal denda ae.  
Tussi aap hi dasso ... ki kharaabi si mere sawaal wich ?  
Te sawaal zaroor parh lena jawaab dene tou pehle.  
 
Sada aik friend hai EYE SPECIALIST ... tussi bolo tu terey baray mein discuss shiscuss karoon?  
Te ik mashwara he tuade waaste O vi bilkul muft.  
Tussi apne us NAFSIYATI Doctor dost naal raabta karo te thora ilaaj willaj karwa lo apna vi.  
Mere khayaal ich tuannu zarrorat he gi.  
illaaj te o vi muft. kinna changa mashwara ditta main ... hun japphi pao isi khusi vich :D  
Waise tussi vi kamal karde ho.  
Bari hamdardi he tuannu Is kaale Qadyani naal .  
Tussi Kaale ho ya Qadiayani???  
Kera bhai chara bol raha he tuadda?  
Hun bura na mani !!!  
 
DEAR MOAZAAM AND NARGIS.  
I know you both have looked at this reply of Dhulqarnain to my genuine question :-  
DHULQARNAIN: Now get lost, you and your question  
 
Don't you think he should be treated in the same way he is treating others???  

Comments by: Nargis On 30 August 2011Report Abuse

Sad jee ne buttering shuro kar di, Dr Uncle se nahi to AURo se ? Tussi siddha siddha kio nahi mande toanno Aastana pasand nahi, jao kidre hour marro para


Comments by: moazzam On 30 August 2011
Dhulqarnain: I can see your idea that ratila also mean to “read correctly”-Dictionary of the Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg.201.  
Now, you have to be careful though, because “reading correctly” can become very subjective very quickly resulting not in translation, but—interpretation. In other words, “reading correctly”, becomes”reading into”. For example: “A man driving a red car fast hits and kills an elderly woman”, can become “A man driving a red sports car, red as we know can affect some emotionally and could have factored in the accident, hits and kills an elderly woman”.  
Again, when you claim that ratia means: “to understand Alquran/terminologies by using the context, tasreef, core message of quran,appropriate selection of meanings of words from lexicon and grammar”, you’re rendering an “interpretation” of the term and not a “translation” of the term. I say this, because there is no ayat , containing the term ratila, which would make one define it as you have. Perhaps there are other terms which would, but not ratila.  
Moazzam: Remember "to read correctly" is one of the requerments, but we have to understand Alquran by RATAL ALQURAN. Read the verses 25/32,73/4, it means to understand the message(Alquran/terminologies) by using the context,tasreef, core message of quran,appropriate selection of meanings of words from lexicon and grammar  
 
Dhulqarnain: I have no problem with using context, tasreef, dictionaries/lexicons, and grammar. Could you though define what you mean by “core message Al-Quran” ?  
Moazzam: Thats good, the core message of Alquran is to protect the human rights( through established islamic state where allah's nizam eraboobiyat among the mankind must be executed, same as in rest of the universe).  
. Dhulqarnain:I can’t agree with you here that Alquran cant be traslated (because it is written in its unique farmate/style).Because Allah, at least from my study of Al-Quran, has placed no restrictions on one translating His Ayats and terminologies. Allah makes no mention of a “farmate/style”. I will need an ayat which definitively supports your assertion.  
Moazzam: I agree with Sister Nrgis's reply in this regard.  
Dhulqarnain: As a nabi, “Muhammad did not “teach” Al-Quran nor did he interpret it. His teaching was only to recite clearly and accurately what he was commanded. The Messenger—Al-Quran, does not interpret, it teaches. We, as messengers, meaning, we bring to people’s attention Al-Quran only and alone, meaning, we bring them an accurate translation of Al-Quran, but not an interpretation of Al-Quran.  
Moazzam: You misunderstood me, I don't agree with HADITH BE CONSIDERD as the interpretation of Quran by Mohammad.  
We don't rely on orthodox translatios because we differ with them at following grounds,It is requested you,please try to understand/discuss the following Quranic terminologies, prior to traslate/interpret Alquran  
1) propethood, Wahy ,Nuzool.  
2) Rasool/Nabi/ Imam/Hadi,Mohammad (the Khatim Annabiyeen).  
3) Alkitab as a book beyond time and space.  
4)Names of the prophets as a generic tamplates to have the same respective role models in the societies in each era.  
5) All the characters written in Alkitab, like Abu lahab, ashaab alfeel,haroot,Maroot, Firaoh,Yajooj Maajooj,Haman, etc etc are also the generic tamplets, which could be seen in the societies in each era.  
6) The Quranic terminologies like Yahood, Nasara, momin, muslim, kafir, youm al aakhirah, youm addin, Yaum alqiyamah,Malaikah, sheitan, Jinn,Salah, saom, Zina, Fuhash, etc etc  
Dhulqarnain: I dont agree with your stance that " See the verse 75/16, the rasool/Nabi/Hadi/imam of the time must elaborate the Quranic message according to his time/era.Therefore, the continuation of Risalat has been mentioned in Alquran. yes,alquran explains itself,and the prophet of the time will elaborate /explain it to implement according to his era"  
I rejected your stance because, this is the exact same position of the Ritualist so-called Muslims. They claim that the prophet, whom they identify as “Muhammad”, must explain/teach and make clear Al-Quran, hence, the necessity of the hadiths and sunna. You’re claiming that the prophet, of any era, must explain/teach and make clear Al-Quran, hence, the necessity of his hadith and sunna. These are the exact same positions. The only difference is, the Riualist so-called Muslims have named the prophet who is to explain/teach and make clear the Al-Quran, whereas, your prophet of any era remains unnamed.  
Moazzam: I dont agree with Mullahs Ahadith presented as the elaboration of Quran by Mohammad.  
Any Momin who is correctly conveying the true message of Alkitab could be called Rasool and you may recognize him with his guts and qualities( the attrebutes of rasool written in alkitab) in your society, your teacher of quran who tought you the true Quranic message is rasool for you, could be many at a time.  
Dhulqarnain:Aastana, has been more involved with interpretation, which invariably is conjecturing, rather than translation which is accurate reporting. Interpretation is contrary to the teaching of Al-Quran. For example, the translation of Allah is—The God. Some here at aastana have now interpreted “Allah” to mean the Islamic State. Now, there is no ayat that can be posted that will translate Allah as the Islamic State, hence, this is an interpretation.  
 
***Moazzam; We are trying to provide the true sense of the message written in Alkitab/Alquran by ratal.***  
 
Dhulqarnain: SENSE: .Intellectual interpretation; an intuitive or acquired perception or ability to estimate; a discerning awareness.  
Moazzam: I have cleared my position above in this regard.  
 
 

Comments by: Maniza On 31 August 2011
Salam to all Aastana family, readers and participants,  
 
I have been away for a while and now I can see how I was missed! So peoplesssssss am back and ready for business, therefore call it a warning or just a slight tap on the wrist, I would remind All to conduct themselves in a civil manner, ( you know who you are ) :)) Imagine this is your house and you have invited people to discuss the Quran, no matter how different their or your own opnions, treat others civil and expect the same.  
 
Agree to disagree.

Comments by: Nargis On 31 August 2011Report Abuse

Maniza aaaaaaa gaye maniza aaaaaaaa gaye maniza aaaaa gaye  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oScuxx2j04k  
 
welcome back, we all missed you a lot :-D Have been waiting for you, they have all been bad to me :( Hope you missed us too:-D


Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 31 August 2011Report Abuse
Peace Moazzam,  
 
DHULQARNAIN:Aastana, has been more involved with interpretation, which invariably is conjecturing, rather than translation which is accurate reporting. Interpretation is contrary to the teaching of Al-Quran. For example, the translation of Allah is—The God. Some here at aastana have now interpreted “Allah” to mean the Islamic State. Now, there is no ayat that can be posted that will translate Allah as the Islamic State, hence, this is an interpretation.  
 
***MOAZZAM; We are trying to provide the true sense of the message written in Alkitab/Alquran by ratal.***  
 
I’m still not certain what you mean by ratil, but I think you will agree with me when I say that the folIowing items are necessary in studying Al-Quran in order to see what it is explaining.  
 
a) bring ayat (s) of proof.  
b) context:  
c) tasreef,  
d) dictionaries/lexicons  
e) grammar.  
 
Dhulqarnain: I can’t agree with you here that Alquran cant be traslated (because it is written in its unique farmate/style). Because Allah, at least from my study of Al-Quran, has placed no restrictions on one translating His Ayats and terminologies. Allah makes no mention of a “farmate/style”. I will need an ayat which definitively supports your assertion. …However, "sensing" is not concrete fact, but opinion, conjecture and interpreting. Can you give me the ayat which contains the word "sense", as fact...?  
 
***Moazzam: I agree with Sister Nargis's reply in this regard.***  
 
***NARGIS: Do you have any better suggestions, another word that replaces sense? We use the word “sense” to describe the meaning, connotation, and wisdom applied in the message through the aya’s. Conveyed by the Qur'an, i.e. what is the substance, TRUE MESSAGE, MEANING conveyed by the message?***  
 
I do have have a better suggestion,Moazzam—17:36. Let’s replace “sense” with the term Allah wants us to use when delivering His Message—ILM=knowledge/fact.  
 
17:36 And follow not that of which you have not the knowledge/ILM. Surely the hearing and the sight and the heart, of all of these it will be asked.  
 
“Sense”, as described by Nargis and supported by you, is:  
 
SENSE: to be e aware that something is the case without being able to define exactly how one knows.  
 
Which is:  
 
CONJECTURE: statement or an idea which is unproven, but is thought to be true; a guess; a supposition based upon incomplete evidence.  
 
OPINION: is a subjective statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts: a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty.  
 
KNOW: be absolutely certain or sure about something.  
 
For example, in conveying to someone that 9 plus 37=46, you don’t have to have “a sense” that 9 plus 37=46. You don’t sense this, because you know it to be the fact and you can prove it. 17:36 is commanding the muslim to have certitude not a “a sense” before delivering the Message. To understand and to deliver the Message accurately, the individual cannot have a “sense” of the thing, but rather, the facts/knowledge of the thing”. Now, if you are proffering something for another’s consideration or “fleshing” something out and have not arrived at a factual conclusion, then, certainly, you can say of the subject in discussion that..”it is my sense that…”  
 
So, bottomline, “sense of” is not “the fact of”…agreed.  
 
Do you see what I mean, here? So, when you write:  
 
***MOAZZAM: “the core message of Alquran is to protect the human rights( through established islamic state where allah's nizam eraboobiyat among the mankind must be executed, same as in rest of the universe”***  
 
Now, is your above claim your “sense” of what Al-Quran is stating…or is it the ILM/fact of what the Al-Quran is stating? If it is the latter, then you must provide the ayat(s) which makes this clear, otherwise, as with Nargis’s claim than prophets are ongoing up to the present, your claim, as well, remains in the realm of sense, conjecture, opinion, but not fact/ilm. Agreed?  
 
DHULQARNAIN-“They claim that the prophet, whom they identify as “Muhammad”, must explain/teach and make clear Al-Quran, hence, the necessity of the hadiths and sunna.”  
 
***NARGIS: They say the Prophet made ADDITIONAL explanation, which is not to be found in the Quran but in Hadith.We are saying what the Quran say, that he explained the Quran BY the Quran. His explanations are in the Quran, not outside. Make clear the Quran means to make it understandable to everyone***  
 
***Moazzam: I dont agree with Mullahs Ahadith presented as the elaboration of Quran by Mohammad.***  
 
***MOAZZAM: Any Momin who is correctly conveying the true message of Alkitab could be called Rasool and you may recognize him with his guts and qualities( the attrebutes of rasool written in alkitab) in your society, your teacher of quran who tought you the true Quranic message is rasool for you, could be many at a time.***  
 
Now, you’ve changed from…nabi…to raool! Very good! Allah says that "He ever sending messengers". This why your’s and Nargi’s clainm that allah is still sending prophets cannot possibly be correct. Why  
 
1. Allah states that he’s ever sending messengers  
 
2. allah has not stated that he’s ever sending nabi  
 
3. for you or nargy to say of allah what he did not say of himself is unquranic and, would be shirk.  
 
4. you cannot name even one prohet since the time of “Muhamamd”  
 
As a nabi, “Muhammad did not “teach” Al-Quran nor did he interpret it. His teaching was only to recite clearly and accurately what he was commanded—the ayats. The Messenger—Al-Quran, does not interpret, it teaches. We, as messengers, meaning, we bring to people’s attention Al-Quran only and alone, meaning, we bring them an accurate translation of Al-Quran, but not an interpretation of Al-Quran. Can you then, provide an ayat where the Prophet was teaching/explaining/interpreting Al-Quran with other than the revealed ayats?  
 
***MOAZZAM: You misunderstood me, I don't agree with HADITH BE CONSIDERD as the interpretation of Quran by Mohammad. We don't rely on orthodox translatios because we differ with them at following grounds,It is requested you,please try to understand/discuss the following Quranic terminologies, prior to traslate/interpret Alquran.***  
 
You miss my point. I’m not claiming that you support in any way the hadith of the Ritualist so-called Muslims. The following is your claim/position:  
 
1.“yes,alquran explains itself,and the prophet of the time will ELABORATE/EXPLAIN it to implement according to his era”; and  
 
2.“the rasool/Nabi/Hadi/imam of the time MUST ELABORATE the Quranic message according to his time/era. Therefore, the continuation of Risalat has been mentioned in Alquran”.  
 
The “prophet of any era” will be doing the same thing that Ritualist so-called Muslims claim “Muhammad” did,—explain/teach/ELABORATE on Al-Quran, hence, the need for the prophet of the era hadiths as well. So, whether “Muhammad explained/taught/elaborated on Al-Quran or the prophet of the era explains/teaches/elaborates on Al-Quran it doesn’t matter. In either case it is Allah who explains, teaches, elaborated on His Quran not His prophets or any others.  
 
ELABORATE: To express at greater length or in greater detail: marked by intricate and often excessive detail; complicated; to work out carefully or minutely; develop to perfection; to add details to; to expand.  
 
As I said in several posts to Nargis, and now to you, if there were prophets at the time of “Muhammad” and ever since then, then you are obligated to prove that claim by naming at least one prophet since the time of “Muhammad”. Nargis has admitted that she cannot do this. If you cannot do this then your claim cannot be valid, because it cannot be proven via Al-Quran, history, or current event. Do you agree?  
 
Let’s look at three of your statements.  
 
MOAZZAM STATEMENT 1: “yes,alquran explains itself,and the prophet of the time will elaborate /explain it to implement according to his era”  
 
MOAZZAM STATEMENT 2: “the rasool/Nabi/Hadi/imam of the time must elaborate the Quranic message according to his time/era. Therefore, the continuation of Risalat has been mentioned in Alquran”,  
 
MOAZZAM STATEMENT 3: Any Momin who is correctly conveying the true message of Alkitab could be called Rasool and you may recognize him with his guts and qualities( the attrebutes of rasool written in alkitab) in your society, your teacher of quran who tought you the true Quranic message is rasool for you, could be many at a time.  
 
In statement #1 you state: the prophet of the time will elaborate /explain it…  
 
In statement #2 you state: the rasool/Nabi/Hadi/imam of the time must elaborate the Quranic message.  
 
In statement #3 Any Momin who is correctly conveying the true message of Alkitab could be called Rasool and you may recognize him with his guts and qualities…  
 
Statement #3 is what Al-Quran supports and proves: 44:5 A command from Us — truly We are ever sending messengers —  
 
This we can agree on.  
 
Statements #1 and #3 directly contradict each other, because #3 can be proven via Al-Quran, history, and current event, whereas, #1 cannot. Statement #2 is not correct either, because it contains nabi and imam along with rasool.  
 
*** “MOAZZAM:Thats good, the core message of Alquran is to protect the human rights…” DHULQARNAIN- Could you though define what you mean by “core message Al-Quran” ?  
 
*** Thats good, the core message of Alquran is to protect the human rights( through established islamic state where allah's nizam eraboobiyat among the mankind must be executed, same as in rest of the universe). ***  
 
I cannot agree with you here. The core message of Al-Quran is 6:106, because if this ayat isn’t properly understood and obeyed one will remain in shirk until death and then be consigned to Hell.  
 
6:106 Follow that which is revealed to you from thy Lord — there is no god but He; and turn away from the muskrikeen/polytheists.  
 
But even if human rights was the core message, then we must, via Al-Quran, prove all that which we assert, otherwise, we will mislead them and undermine their human rights. Do you agree? If so, what ayat defines the core message of Al-Quran as being ---“protect human rights” through established islamic state where allah's nizam eraboobiyat among the mankind must be executed, same as in rest of the universe?  
 
Remember, no more “sensing”, but ilm/knowledge/fact/ayat(s).  
 
Looking forward to your reply. I would like to hear from you and not others on your behalf.  
 
Btw, exactly what is: “nizam eraboobiyat”? Please do not link me to other threads. I went through them and I am still not clear what this is. Thank you.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Nargis2 On 31 August 2011Report Abuse
As I said in several posts to Nargis, and now to you, if there were prophets at the time of “Muhammad” and ever since then, then you are obligated to prove that claim by naming at least one prophet since the time of “Muhammad”. Nargis has admitted that she cannot do this. If you cannot do this then your claim cannot be valid, because it cannot be proven via Al-Quran, history, or current event. Do you agree? DHULQARNAIN  
 

Where in the Quran does it say 33:40 is valid ONLY if names of the prophets living at the time of Mohammed are mentioned, please refer to the ayah  
 
Why didn't the Quran mention their names?  
 
How many Nabis who wsn’t Rusools, are mentioned in the Quran?  
 
SENSE  
 
sensed, sens·ing, sens·es  
1. To become aware of; perceive.  
2. To grasp; understand.comprehend  
free dictionary online  
 
com·pre·hend·ed, com·pre·hend·ing, com·pre·hends  
1. To take in the meaning, nature, or importance of; grasp.  
 
Sense= meaning  
 
mean·ing  
1. Something that is conveyed or signified; sense or significance.  
synonyms of Sense (some of them)  
 
signification, stuff, substance, thrust, understanding,Signification, Essence  
 
It should be clear what we mean when we use the word sense.


Comments by: waseemameer On 01 September 2011Report Abuse
Brother Dhulqurnain and members,  
 
It is very important to start a disucssion agreeing to the objective of Al-Quran. Arguments and counter arguments is a non-ending process without the objectives being agreed.  
I want to request brother Dhulqurnain to discuss/agree with the objective of Al-Quran and go from thr. Usless discussions/arguments/criticism on personalities can be observed everywhere so why waste time on this blog.  
It is really frustrating to note people putting their energies to defeat arguments rather than involve in a discussions leading to an output.  
 
We should ask these simple questions to ourselves  
 
1. Why we need to study Al-Quran?  
2. What we want to acheive with this Al-kitab?  
3. What impact/ role it will/can play in our lives?  
4. What basic things/values Al-Quran want us to follow?  
 
I want to divert your attention to one of the ayaats which you can find everywhere in Quran. Dr.Sahab explained it before  
 
 
وَبَشِّرِ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي مِنْ تَحْتِهَا الأنْهَارُ كُلَّمَا رُزِقُوا مِنْهَا مِنْ ثَمَرَةٍ رِزْقًا قَالُوا هَذَا الَّذِي رُزِقْنَا مِنْ قَبْلُ وَأُتُوا بِهِ مُتَشَابِهًا وَلَهُمْ فِيهَا أَزْوَاجٌ مُطَهَّرَةٌ وَهُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ  
سورۃ البقرہ آیت نمبر ۲۵  
Give good news to those who are الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا (believer of peace) and do good deeds* that for them are the gardens under their control, whenever they were** given fruits from it they said*** this is the same what we were given before and also similar to them , and for them are the companions**** with purity and character, and they will live in it forever.  
 
* Please note that the word is " وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ" which means those deeds which produce صلاحیت i.e. capability in others, makes اصلاح i.e. produce good qualities in others, and when two people have differences makes صلاح i.e. clear the differences between them.  
 
Regards  
Waseem

Comments by: moazzam On 01 September 2011
Dhulqarnain: As I said in several posts to Nargis, and now to you, if there were prophets at the time of “Muhammad” and ever since then, then you are obligated to prove that claim by naming at least one prophet since the time of “Muhammad”. Nargis has admitted that she cannot do this. If you cannot do this then your claim cannot be valid, because it cannot be proven via Al-Quran, history, or current event. Do you agree?  
Moazzam!Read the link below carefully, hope,you will find the answer.  
,http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?QID=1685#COM8686  
Brother Dhulqarnai; please go through some basic terminologies prior to involve further in "discussion with no out come" but you over looked as usual. I request you again please discuss/understand the said terminologies, other wise you will not be able to understand the AASTANA VERSION, whereas we have altogethr rejected the orthodox translation based on wrong meanings of the said Quranic terminologies..  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 02 September 2011Report Abuse
Peace Moazzam,  
 
***Go through the following verses to get involved in a very impotent discussion regarding " Khatem annabiyyeen" خاتم النبیین  
,3/164,2/129,9//128,40/34,28/59,39/71,3/101,20/134,23/32 ,14/4***  
 
Moazzam, you’re confusing/mixing up prophet with messenger. None of the following ayats makes any mention of prophets/nabiyeen. They are talking about messengers/rasools. “Muhammad’s title is not—Khatim Rasools, is it? So why these ayats, then? You see, Moazzam, as with Nargis, you are now coming to grips with the reality that your position is not accurate and now you want to make prophet/nabi and messenger/rasool equivalent terms . Prophet and messenger are not equivalent terms. As I’ve pointed out in prior posts, not all prophets (i.e. Ibrahim) were “messenger-prophets (i.e. “Muhammad”). You and Nargis know you cannot prove there were other prophets with “Muhammad” nor can you prove there are any today, because you cannot name any or point to any. Allah, The Lord of the Worlds, appoints prophets—not other prophets.  
 
42:51 And it is not vouchsafed to a mortal that Allah should speak to him, except by revelation or from behind a veil, or by sending a messenger and revealing by His permission what He pleases. Surely He is High, Wise.  
 
Further more, whereas Allah has made it crystal clear in ayat 44:5 that “He is ever sending messengers”, there is no equivalent ayat in regard to prophets, hence, you cannot make just make it up and say that prophets are an ongoing/not ending process. As I said earlier in this post, all of the following ayats support khatama as ending something/closing something and not giving approval to something.  
 
44:5 A command from Us — truly We are ever sending messengers —  
 
2:129 Our Lord, and raise up in them a Messenger from among them who shall recite to them Thy messages and teach them the Book and the Wisdom, and purify them. Surely Thou art the Mighty, the Wise.  
 
3:101 And how can you disbelieve while to you are recited the messages of Allah, and among you is His Messenger? And whoever holds fast to Allah, he indeed is guided to a right path.  
 
3:164 Certainly Allah conferred a favour on the believers when He raised among them a Messenger from among themselves, reciting to them His messages and purifying them, and teaching them the Book and the Wisdom, although before that they were surely in manifest error.  
 
9:128 Certainly a Messenger has come to you from among yourselves; grievous to him is your falling into distress, most solicitous for you, to the believers (he is) compassionate, merciful.  
 
14:4 And We sent no messenger but with the language of his people, so that he might explain to them clearly. Then Allah leaves in error whom He pleases and He guides whom He pleases. And He is the Mighty, the Wise.  
 
20:134 And if We had destroyed them with chastisement before it, they would have said: Our Lord, why didst Thou not send to us a messenger, so that we might have followed Thy messages before we met disgrace and shame?  
 
23:32 So We sent among them a messenger from among them, saying: Serve Allah — you have no God other than Him. Will you not guard against evil?  
 
28:59 And thy Lord never destroyed the towns, until He had raised in their metropolis a messenger, reciting to them Our messages, and We never destroyed the towns except when their people were iniquitous.  
 
39:71 And those who disbelieve are driven to hell in companies; until, when they come to it, its doors are opened, and the keepers of it say to them: Did not there come to you messengers from among you reciting to you the messages of your Lord and warning you of the meeting of this day of yours? They say: Yea. But the word of punishment proved true against the disbelievers.  
 
40:34 And Joseph indeed came to you before with clear arguments, but you ever remained in doubt as to what he brought you; until, when he died, you said: Allah will never raise a messenger after him. Thus does Allah leave him in error who is a prodigal, a doubter —  
 
KHATMA: to seal; put a signet upon; stamp; imprint; end; complete a thing; finish. Dictionary of the Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg. 148.  
 
SEAL: to fasten or close tightly by or as if by a seal: to shut close; to keep close; to make fast; to keep secure or secret; close off something.  
 
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/seal  
 
http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/Seal  
 
All of the following ayats , 33:40 included, are using khatama as defined above and not as you and Nargis claim:  
 
MOAZZAM: the power / authority to validate / appoint.  
 
***NARGIS: verse no 40 of sura 33 is declaring that Mohammad was the seal of the prophets , which simply means He was the appointing authority of other prophets…So when this verse was revealed to prophet Mohammad there were so many انبیاء and it is a non ending continuous process . ***  
 
Allah, in sealing their hearts means their intellects/understanding are shut down/closed off/fastened tightly from His Message. Not one of these ayats even remotely fits yours and Nargis’s definition. Likewise, 3:40, fits exactly with them! Allah, with “Muhammad”, closed/fastened/sealed/put an end to/ceased—the order of the prophethood, hence, his title, Khatim Nabiyeen.  
 
2:7 Allah has sealed their hearts and their hearing; and there is a covering on their eyes, and for them is a grievous chastisement.  
 
6:46 Say: Have you considered that if Allah should take away your hearing and your sight and seal your hearts, who is the god besides Allah that can bring it to you? See how We repeat the messages yet they turn away!  
 
42:24 Or say they: He has forged a lie against Allah? So, if Allah please, He would seal thy heart (against them). And Allah blots out the falsehood and confirms the Truth with His words. Surely He is Knower of what is in the breasts.  
 
45:23 Seest thou him who takes his desire for his god, and Allah leaves him in error knowingly, and seals his hearing and his heart and puts a covering on his sight? Who can then guide him after Allah? Will you not mind?  
 
If Khatim Nabiyeen means anything other than “ End of the Prophets, then you must produce a name of a prophet living at the same time as “Muhammad” and one living or has been killed presently. If you can name an individual, then he must prove how he is, in fact, a prophet of Allah. There is no other way to make your case. You cannot have it both ways, meaning, you cannot deny that “Muhmmad” was the End of the Prophets, yet, provide no proof of other prophets. Please don’t susbstitute messenger/rasool for nabi/prophet. We are only talking about prophets not rasools. Allah has already ruled on ongoing rasools in 44:5  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: moazzam On 02 September 2011
Dear Dhulqarnain! I request you please read my post available at the link http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?QID=1685 to get to the point answer,Again you overlooked the Quranic terminologies even to discuss/understand .It is unjustice to delebrately over look the focul point of debate and insisting at your point with out reading the relevant meterial posted by us. Remember we have all togather rejected the old/orthodox translation, and trying to present the new one which is based on Ratal alquran, tasreef, context of the verses/subject, core message of Alquran, and lexicon/grammar as well.

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 02 September 2011Report Abuse
Peace Moazzam,  
 
Good, we’ve come down to the heart and the meat of the matter, now. Don’t worry, we will get to ALL of your terminologies, but for now we will focus on just one—nabi/prophet.  
 
NARGIS: Mohammad is not a proper noun rather a character, Mohammad could be any NABI/ RASOOL who possesses the attributes of Ahmad as mentioned in verse 61/6.  
 
NARGIS:Mohammad as a NABI /RASOOL has the power / authority to validate / appoint ambiya in his time as mentioned in verse 33/40…  
 
Moazaam, although you are a brillinat individual, you’ve made no brilliant statement on this occasion. Both you and Nargis are attempting make the terms prophet/nabi and messenger/rasool EQIVALENT terms while they are absolutely not equivalent terms. The forward “/” symbol you use is another symbol for equivalency.  
 
It doesn’t matter how you define “Mohammad”. This term, along with rasool/messenger, are not the central terms of this discussion. Nabi/prophet is the central term/issue of the discussion. Let’s keep our focus; it’s an excellent discussion.  
 
Here are your problems associated with your assertions regarding nabi/prophet.  
 
1. All prophets were not “messenger prophets”. Ibrahim, Ishaq, Ayyub,, for examples, were prophets. Now, Ishmael, Musa, Jesus, for examples, were messenger-prophets. So there is no making messenger and prophet equivalent terms.  
 
2. Allah has named some of His prophets and not named others. Can you name the prophets which He did not? Can you give name to that which He didn’t?  
 
3. If you claim that Allah raised prophets at the same time as “Muhammad” and that they exist into the present, then you must at least do as Allah did and name one prophet, not all of them, just one in order to prove your case. Otherwise you have no case.  
 
4. Whoever you name, past or present, how do we know if that individual is truly a prophet without Allah verifying it?  
 
5. Suppose someone, after reading your’s and Nargis’s assertion on prophets, comes forth next week and says “ My, that sounds like me; I’m a prophet! How would you, Nargis, or anyone have certitude that that individual, is, in fact, a prophet? How will you prove it? Because unless you and that individual can prove it you have no case for onging prophets.  
 
6. Moazzam, why don’t either you or Qamar or both claim that you’re prophets? What, effectively, disqualifies you?  
 
7. Allah, in ayat 44:5, states that “He’s ever sending messengers/rasool...Now, when you and Nargis state …“prophets/nabiyeen is a non ending continuous process”, you are making the same claim that Allah is, except, you’re making it about prophets, something He which has not stated. Did Allah give you the authority to make such a claim that prophets are ongoing? If not, then you are Nargis have put yourselves on the same level as Allah with your claim. Listen, you simply cannot, per ayat 7:33, make unauthorized claims about Allah, His Angels, His Book, His Messengers, His Prophets or His Deen:  
 
7:33 Say: My Lord forbids/makes haram only indecencies,…and that you associate with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and that you say of Allah what you know not.  
 
When you stated……“prophets/nabiyeen is a non ending continuous process”, you associated something with Allah for which you must now, via His Words/Al-Quran prove, otherwise, you’ve asserted something without authority and your assertion would then need to be withdrawn.  
 
There is no way out of this. You have no case regarding this particular terminology —Khatim nabiyeen.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 

Comments by: moazzam On 03 September 2011
Brother Dhulqarnain!  
Moazaam,. Both you and Nargis are attempting make the terms prophet/nabi and messenger/rasool EQIVALENT terms while they are absolutely not equivalent terms. The forward “/” symbol you use is another symbol for equivalency.  
Moazzam: This clearly indicating that you didn’t read our previous posts relevant to this perticulor matter.There is difference between the position of Rasool and Nabi, remember every Nabi is rasool as well, but every rasool is not nabi.Try to understand the appropriate use of symbol “/” in my elaboration, it doesn’t mean always equivalent.  
Dhulqarnain: It doesn’t matter how you define “Mohammad”. This term, along with rasool/messenger, are not the central terms of this discussion. Nabi/prophet is the central term/issue of the discussion. Let’s keep our focus; it’s an excellent discussion.  
Moazzam:Mohammad is/will be/was the rasool and khatim annabiyeen as described in verse 33/40.  
 
Dhulqarnain:Here are your problems associated with your assertions regarding nabi/prophet.  
1. All prophets were not “messenger prophets”. Ibrahim, Ishaq, Ayyub,, for examples, were prophets. Now, Ishmael, Musa, Jesus, for examples, were messenger-prophets. So there is no making messenger and prophet equivalent terms.  
Moazzam: This is the orthodox stance, we don’t accept it at all. There is only difference between Nabi and rasool.  
 
Dhulqarnain: 2. Allah has named some of His prophets and not named others. Can you name the prophets which He did not? Can you give name to that which He didn’t?  
Moazzam: You have to understand the difference between the “names(proper noun) and the eternal attributes of characters” described in Quran (as a generic tamplets), the role model of societies would be based upon these generic tamplates.(first discuss this matter if not understood) then go a head)  
Dhulqarnain: 3. If you claim that Allah raised prophets at the same time as “Muhammad” and that they exist into the present, then you must at least do as Allah did and name one prophet, not all of them, just one in order to prove your case. Otherwise you have no case.  
4: Whoever you name, past or present, how do we know if that individual is truly a prophet without Allah verifying it?  
Moazzam: I don’t see Mohammad in present up to my knowledge; Mohammad could be recognized in any society in any era by his attributes mentioned in Quran (the matter of centuries not a days), but Rasool could be many in numbers at a time, even in our societies as well (like Your and my teachers of Quran and others as well, if they qualify the qualities and attributes mentioned in quran for the prophet hood)  
Dhulqarnain: 5. Suppose someone, after reading yours and Nargis’s assertion on prophets, comes forth next week and says “ My, that sounds like me; I’m a prophet! How would you, Nargis, or anyone have certitude that that individual is, in fact, a prophet? How will you prove it? Because unless you and that individual can prove it you have no case for onging prophets.  
Moazzam: I replied the same question in above paragraph.  
Dhulqarnain; 6. why don’t either you or Qamar or both claim that you’re prophets? What, effectively, disqualifies you?  
Moazzam: The prophets are not supper human, they are just ordinary people, but Allah conceives in their mind(nuzool) the true interpretation of Alkitab on the basis of their sincerity to find out the truth while pondering into Alkitan and the observations in the universe.Rest of your question has been answered in above paragraph.  
7. Allah, in ayat 44:5, states that “He’s ever sending messengers/rasool...Now, when you and Nargis state …“prophets/nabiyeen is a non ending continuous process”, you are making the same claim that Allah is, except, you’re making it about prophets, something He which has not stated. Did Allah give you the authority to make such a claim that prophets are ongoing? If not, then you are Nargis have put yourselves on the same level as Allah with your claim. Listen, you simply cannot, per ayat 7:33, make unauthorized claims about Allah, His Angels, His Book, His Messengers, His Prophets or His Deen:  
Moazzam: The continuation of risaalat /Nabuwat has been describer in details in other threads, you didn’t bother to read at all. Because you read orthodox English translations, therefore seems confuse between PROPHET HOOD AND RASOOL.  
Dhulqarnain: When you stated……“prophets/nabiyeen is a non ending continuous process”, you associated something with Allah for which you must now, via His Words/Al-Quran prove, otherwise, you’ve asserted something without authority and your assertion would then need to be withdrawn.  
Moazzam: We have given may many references from Quran, but you never bother to even read or at least discuss at this topic. It is advised please read /go through again in details, I sure the matter will be cleared to you.  
 

Comments by: Nargis On 03 September 2011Report Abuse

And the end, there is no need to answer these posts any more. He got the answers but he is not reading them. We are not here to convince, and there is no spoon feeding. He says Ibrahim is prophet but not messenger, W T *? And then the christian way of thinking, only that God is replaced by Allah and reaction after the line is waiting for a "halleluya " instead of "Jazakallah/mashallah":-

""Whoever you name, past or present, how do we know if that individual is truly a prophet without Allah verifying it""

WT4 is this ?? Look at Another judeochristianmullaish fatwah kafir attitude

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you are making the same claim that Allah is, except, you’re making it about prophets, something He which has not stated. Did Allah give you the authority to make such a claim that prophets are ongoing? If not, then you are Nargis have put yourselves on the same level as Allah with your claim.

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again WT4? You don't even know what a nabi is and what a Rusool is, your here claiming that Ibrahim is a prophet not a messenger, and you know Allah? OUUUWWWH, Will Satan take my soul? Jesus won't saaaave me? No salvation for me ?---got Damn so boring and so...insignificant - still hanging there , at this level? why is not a fatwah club joined and you can sing halleluyah Naats "happy dayyyy" with mullah 's while clapping hands and rolling your head from side to side?  
 
Here people want to STUDY, put your fatwas and scary threats in your pocket and use it on people who are living in a fantasy castle & FOLLOW NAMES blindly.  
 
He doesn't want to understand and he didn't read what we wrote. There shouldn't be any spoon feeding or convincing,especially people who never answer questions or read anything. but want to kill time with their own orthodox crap. Where are the 80 lashes, they should be exercised on people who don't read and don't put any effort in understanding...That is waste of time -so the end and everyone who want to can follow their orthodox translations. If wished, people can search on the forum for the words and read through carefully. This is really boring, same thing over and over again

 

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 04 September 2011Report Abuse
Peace Moazzam,  
 
Dhulqarnain: It doesn’t matter how you define “Mohammad”. This term, along with rasool/messenger, are not the central terms of this discussion. Nabi/prophet is the central term/issue of the discussion. Let’s keep our focus; it’s an excellent discussion.  
 
Moazzam:Mohammad is/will be/was the rasool and khatim annabiyeen as described in verse 33/40.  
 
We have no disagreement there. “Muhammad”, don’t forget, was messenger-prophet.  
 
And, so, once again, we arrive at the heart of the issue.  
 
Dhulqarnain: If you claim that Allah raised prophets at the same time as “Muhammad” and that they exist into the present, then you must at least do as Allah did and name one prophet, not all of them, just one in order to prove your case. Otherwise you have no case. Whoever you name, past or present, how do we know if that individual is truly a prophet without Allah verifying it? Suppose someone, after reading yours and Nargis’s assertion on prophets, comes forth next week and says “ My, that sounds like me; I’m a prophet! How would you, Nargis, or anyone have certitude that that individual is, in fact, a prophet? How will you prove it? Because unless you and that individual can prove it you have no case for onging prophets.  
 
MOAZZAM: I don’t see Mohammad in present up to my knowledge; Mohammad could be recognized in any society in any era by his attributes mentioned in Quran (the matter of centuries not a days), but Rasool could be many in numbers at a time, even in our societies as well (like Your and my teachers of Quran and others as well, if they qualify the qualities and attributes mentioned in quran for the prophet hood).  
 
We are not talking about rasool (s), we are talking about nabi (s). They are different things, to wit:  
 
22:52 And We never sent a messenger or a prophet before thee but when he desired,...  
 
Of course, and I have already stated as much that, anyone bringing the Quran only an alone message to others is a rasool/messenger “of” Allah, but none of us can claim prophet status…unless you are willing to.  
 
Br. Moazzam, if you, Qamar, Yellow-Cow, Waseemameer, and Junaid, for examples, do not qualify for “prophethood…then who does? If you are claiming that these nabis are just ordinary folks then why has not one of them, since the time of Muhammad and right up to this day, not come forth and announced their prophet status? Why haven’t one on them, in all of this time, been identified and certified as a prophet of Allah by others? I still cannot understand what disqualifies you and Qamar and the others from this position, can you? Or, what disqualifies you and the others from at least identifying someone, past or present, who is a prophet from Allah, can you?  
 
Here, once again, is Naris’s original statement on 8/5/11  
 
NARGIS: 3:21. Verily! those who reject the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, ... announce to them a painful torment. In this verse the verbs used are not in past tense ,the verbs are یکفرون یقتلون These words can either be translated in present tense or future tense . these words can in no way be translated into past tense . So when this verse was revealed to prophet Mohammad there were so many انبیاء and it is a non ending continuous process .  
 
http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?SID=40&QID=1576  
 
On 8/26/11, Nargis, as you have done now, admitted that she cannot name even one prophet from ANY era, past or present.  
 
NARGIS: 3:21 does NOT mention any name, so I cant produce names from myself”..  
 
http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?SID=40&QID=1618  
 
 
Moazzam: I DON’T SEE MOHAMMAD IN PRESENT UP TO MY KNOWLEDGE; Mohammad could be recognized in any society in any era by his attributes mentioned in Quran (the matter of centuries not a days), but Rasool could be many in numbers at a time, even in our societies as well (like Your and my teachers of Quran and others as well, if they qualify the qualities and attributes mentioned in quran for the prophet hood).  
 
 
Of course you can’t see PROPHET “Muhammad”—he’s dead right along with the rest of THE PROPHETS. You see, neither you nor Nargis, by your own admissions, can bring a single name of a prophet of Allah since Muhammad, thus, making your assertion of prophets at that time of Muhammad and ongoing prophets since Muhammad, completely unfounded and without merit.  
 
The Bottonlines:  
 
Bottomline 1 Both you and Nargis have admitted that you cannot bring one single name of any prophet since “Muhammad”, period.  
 
Bottomline 2 Given that neither you nor Nargis nor any of the others, can name a prophet since Muhammad, then Muhammad, if for no other reason, is by default, the last of the prophets/al-khatim nabiyeen.  
 
Bottomline 3 Allah says that “He’s ever sending messengers” (ayat 44:5). There is no nabi/prophet in this ayat, hence, you cannot add nabi/prophet to it in order to make it appear that Allah is also ever sending nabi/prophets.  
 
Bottomline 4 Telling me to look at terminologies and other “explained things” , that you reject this and you reject that, here’s a link, orthodox translations, I just don’t understand, etc., etc., etc, will not produce/ aid you in identifying any names of any prophets past, present or future since the prophet to whom Al-Quran (suras 2-114) was given, “Muhammad”.  
 
Bottomline 5 Neither you nor Nargis nor any member here, would EVER identify ANYONE past, present or future—as a nabi from Allah, unless of course Al-Quran verified it, now would you? You wouldn’t, because bottomline…you would not be able to prove it beyond doubt. Yes? No?  
 
Bottomline 6 As Quran only and alone people we can ill-afford to bring arguments as Nargis and you have brought. We are the super-minority on the earth, hence, our arguments must be air-tight if we are to prove that the Ritualist so-called Muslims, the Jews, the Christians, and whoever else, are incorrect in their arguments. Would either of you accept an argument if your opponent could not prove it? Imagine, if you will, you and the others speaking in front of scholars, academics, professionals, and university students. How do you think you and the others would be received if you presented your assertion that, there were prophets at the time of Muhammad and ever since then, and then tell them…”but I/we can’t name even one, though”? What do you think their response would be? Well, I’ll tell you what I would say…  
 
“How can you accept and ask us to accept that there were prophets at the time of “Muhammad” and ever since then, but you cannot name even one?! What you are doing and what you are asking us to do, is to follow/accept your assertion blindly as you have no proof to back it up. Allah in ayat 17:36 makes haram/forbidden blind following, meaning, to accept anything, to believe anything, to follow anything without proof”.  
 
17:36 And do not follow that of which you have not the knowledge; surely the hearing and the sight and the heart, all of these, shall be questioned about that.  
 
That would be my response to you and probably any other sound thinking individual as well, much less, scholars and academics of all walks of life.  
 
It is way past due for you and Nargis to admit that you are wrong on this issue of khatim nabiyeen/ayat 33:40 and ayat 3:21. You cannot prove your case now and you will never be able to prove it. What is so wrong in simply saying that you are mistaken on this issue?! Are you people lacking in that much ego strength?!  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: moazzam On 04 September 2011
Dhulqarnain: Nargis;as you have done now, admitted that she cannot name even one prophet from ANY era, past or present.  
Of course you can’t see PROPHET “Muhammad”—he’s dead right along with the rest of THE PROPHETS. You see, neither you nor Nargis, by your own admissions, can bring a single name of a prophet of Allah since Muhammad, thus, making your assertion of prophets at that time of Muhammad and ongoing prophets since Muhammad, completely unfounded and without merit.  
Moazzam: we said time and again in our previous posts, that, Allah described in Alkitab the details( their attributes, signs) to recognize the Rasool and Nabi in each era, why you are so specific to know their bio data, every one has to identify them by their qualification written in Alkitab.  
In fact, you didn’t read my post, where I given in detail the appointment (khatim) of many ambiya (commanders) by Mohammad, read the relevant post again where I interpreted the Surah ahzab(you intentionally over looked). In same manners Mohammad of the time can/will oppoint the ambiya(commanding authoreties) in his era.Because you have not the clear concept of Nabi therefore, you are confused, and will remain un clear till you read the Quranic terminologies.  
 
Dhulqarnain: Telling me to look at terminologies and other “explained things” , that you reject this and you reject that, here’s a link, orthodox translations, I just don’t understand, etc., etc., etc,  
Moazzam: Again I “ANNOUNCE” that, we have rejected all most all orthodox translations (all of them based at same patterns of myth, dogmas and rituals), therefore, we are trying to understand the true sense of the divine message (Alkitab) by Alkitab it self.  
If you will keep on embraced the rejected ones, I 100% sure that, you will never be able to understand the “AASTANA’S VERSION AT ALL”  
 
I ADVISE YOU EITHER YOU HAVE TO RECONSIDER YOUR POSITION DESCRIBED IN YOUR FOLLOWING STATEMENT, THAT, “Telling me to look at terminologies and other “explained things” , that you reject this and you reject that, here’s a link, orthodox translations, I just don’t understand, etc., etc., etc,”  
OR YOU QUIT FROM AASTANA, SAVE YOUR TIME AND THE OTHERS VALUABLE TIME AS WELL, THE ENDDDDD. THANKS  

Comments by: Waqar On 04 September 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqarnain,  
Can you please elaborate on your concept of nabi?  
You did not answer my questions which I asked in thread http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?QID=1577#COM8372. I am copying/pasting the same questions below for your reference.  
 
This is what I have learnt so far.  
1) Allah is continuously sending messengers.  
2) Messengers are sent in the language of the people.  
3) Messengers don't make any mistakes.  
4) Prophets can make mistakes.  
5) Quran was revealed in month of Ramadan.  
6) Quran was revealed all at once.  
7) Muhammad was both a prophet and a messenger at the same time.  
 
I have some followup questions.  
 
a) Was Muhammad a prophet after receiving complete Quran?  
 
b) Since Muhammad received the perfect deen therefore messengers before Muhammad e.g. Jesus were delivering imperfect messages. Were they commiting mistakes?  
 
c) Did Muhammad receive message as a prophet or as a messenger?  
 
d) "This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Al-Islam as deen" is only a small portion of 5:3. Do we need to understand the whole ayat or the "perfected your religion" part is enough?  
 
e) 33:40 starts with "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men". Do we need to understand it or the last portion of this ayat is sufficient to understand the message?  
 
Regards,  
Waqar

Comments by: Nargis On 04 September 2011Report Abuse

How can a nabi be Allahs nabi without risala?

Moazzam:- we said time and again in our previous posts, that, Allah described in Alkitab the details( their attributes, signs) to recognize the Rasool and Nabi in each era, why you are so specific to know their bio data, every one has to identify them by their qualification written in Alkitab.  
 
In fact, you didn’t read my post, where I given in detail the appointment (khatim) of many ambiya (commanders) by Mohammad, read the relevant post again where I interpreted the Surah ahzab(you intentionally over looked).

YES that's what I said, he is not reading. I asked:- Where in the Quran does it say 33:40 is valid ONLY if names of the prophets living at the time of Mohammed are mentioned, please refer to the ayah  
 
Why didn't the Quran mention their names?  
 
Same goes with brother Waqar,brother parwez and yellow cows questions (about month ramadan...),ignored


Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 04 September 2011Report Abuse
Peace Moazzam,  
 
Then here’s my final word on the matter with you since you’ve chosen to end the discussion.  
 
22:52 And We never sent a messenger or a prophet before thee but when he desired,...  
 
Messenger and prophet, according to Allah are different terms. You must grasp this difference.  
 
Like it or not, want it or not, unless you can bring a name of someone who was a prophet at the time of “Muhammad” and a name of a prophet since then, because as Nargis says…”there were so many prophets at that time and it’s a non-ending process”, then you cannot meet your burden of proof. As you cannot meet your burden of proof, then Muhammad, if for no other reason, by default, remains Al-Khatim Nabiyeen/The Last of the Prophets... it’s just that simple. Bring a name of another prophet and prove it and then he will lose that status. From my time being here, the one thing that is clear about the mindset here is this...proof is demanded by the members. So why should I be any different in that regard? I’ll conclude our, for me anyway, excellent discussion, with my Bottomline 6 statement from my prior post. Thank you, Moazzam.  
 
Bottomline 6 As Quran only and alone people we can ill-afford to bring arguments as Nargis and you have brought. We are the super-minority on the earth, hence, our arguments must be air-tight if we are to prove that the Ritualist so-called Muslims, the Jews, the Christians, and whoever else, are incorrect in their arguments. Would either of you accept an argument if your opponent could not prove it? Imagine, if you will, you and the others speaking in front of scholars, academics, professionals, and university students. How do you think you and the others would be received if you presented your assertion that, there were prophets at the time of Muhammad and ever since then, and then tell them…”but I/we can’t name even one, though”? What do you think their response would be? Well, I’ll tell you what I would say…  
 
“How can you accept and ask us to accept that there were prophets at the time of “Muhammad” and ever since then, but you cannot name even one?! What you are doing and what you are asking us to do, is to follow/accept your assertion blindly as you have no proof to back it up. Allah in ayat 17:36 makes haram/forbidden blind following, meaning, to accept anything, to believe anything, to follow anything without proof”.  
 
17:36 And do not follow that of which you have not the knowledge; surely the hearing and the sight and the heart, all of these, shall be questioned about that.  
 
That would be my response to you and probably any other sound thinking individual as well, much less, scholars and academics of all walks of life.  
 
Peace,  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: moazzam On 04 September 2011
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Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 04 September 2011Report Abuse
Nargis,  
 
***How can a nabi be Allahs nabi without risala?***  
 
All of the prophets conveyed a message, how could they not?, however, Allah has designated some prophets as only prophets and others as messenger-prophets. Angels were also given messages, but does that make them prophets?  
 
***Moazzam:- we said time and again in our previous posts, that, Allah described in Alkitab the details( their attributes, signs) to recognize the Rasool and Nabi in each era, why you are so specific to know their bio data, every one has to identify them by their qualification written in Alkitab.***  
 
Well, if Allah, as you say of Him, has GIVEN YOU THE DETAILS TO RECOGNIZE A PROPHET in any era, then, by all means, stop delaying an simply name just one prophet, and prove it, since the passing of the Last Prophet. What are you waiting for? What’s the problem?  
 
***In fact, you didn’t read my post, where I given in detail the appointment (khatim) of many ambiya (commanders) by Mohammad, read the relevant post again where I interpreted the Surah ahzab(you intentionally over looked).***  
 
I’m still looking for a name, because without a name you have no case. So until you provide one all you’re doing in posting conjecture and wishful thinking.  
 
***YES that's what I said, he is not reading. I asked:- Where in the Quran does it say 33:40 is valid ONLY if names of the prophets living at the time of Mohammed are mentioned, please refer to the ayah  
Why didn't the Quran mention their names?***  
 
There were no names for Allah to give, because He explained to you clearly that Khatim/Nabiyeen meant the Last Prophet. Allah, as you will notice, had no problem naming prophets in any era. It is Qamar and the rest of you, who claim Khatim Nabiyeen doesn’t mean Last Prophet. This is YOUR claim regarding an ayat in Al-Quran not Allah’s, hence, the burden of proof to bring names is rests squarely with you people and not Allah. If the ayat means what you say it does, then you must bring your borhan, meaning, bring a name. No name…no case…just conjecture/wishful thinking.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 
 

Comments by: moazzam On 05 September 2011
Mr Dhulqannain and all participants ! My dear Brother Dhulqarnain; Although you seems a traditional intellectual of Quraan , no doubt, you proved your stance/version in a most intelligently articulated way, But not new for us.  
Being a meager student /research workers of Quran, we (the Aastana teem)exploring the true message of Alkitab through “RATAL” in Alkitab itself (the way you also appreciated in your posts), it is only possible by put aside the traditional/orthodox way of translation all at once.  
For example you have been insisted to mention the NAMES OF PROPHETS other than the name mentioned in Quran or in any(present/past) era.  
Remember our version is, that, the names mentioned in Quran like( Ibraheem,Muses, yaqoob,Mohammad,Yahya, etc) are not their proper noun(bio data) ,rather الأَسْمَاءَ mean their attributes, for example as mentioned in verses 2/31-33, 22/78, 7/121.  
Because Alquran/Alkitab is beyond time and space, therefore the attribute instead of Proper noun has been described as an eternal message, it is up to the each society member to recognize the prophet of the time( by reading/observing/matching their qualifications written in Alquran), no matter the MOHAMMAD/Muses/yaqoob/ dawood etc of the time might be called by their proper name as a X,Y,Z.in their societies.  
THIS THREAD HAS EXTRA ORDINARY EXTENDED DUE TO YOUR LACK OF INTEREST IN [READING/DISCUSSING ]RESEARCH LIKE APPROACH/MENTALITY , SORRY IF IT HEARTS YOUR FEELINGS  
 
I ALSO ADMIT LAKE OF CAPABILITY ON MY PART TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND  
 
 

Comments by: naeem sheikh On 05 September 2011Report Abuse
Dear Dhulqarnain! Read the divine message (Alquran/Alkitab) in new horizon and dimensions (presented by Aastana) then compare it with rest of all (the orthodox interpretations/translations) already presented in Muslim Ummah.  
Don’t put your efforts to justify the ORTHODOX, rather be vigilant to know the truth by Judgement and analyzing the AASTANA’S VERSION under the auspices of “Alkitab itself”, upon the laws of nature, and up to the rules of lexicon/grammar, the possible positive change /out come in mankind at large, NOTHING ELSE, it will only be possible when you will be ready to abscond from the ORTHODOX TRANSLATIONS.  
A HUMBLE ADVICE FROM A SCANTY STUDENT OF ALKITAB.  
 

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 05 September 2011 Edit DeleteReport Abuse
Moazzam, welcome back. I enjoy our conversations.  
 
***Mr Dhulqannain and all participants ! My dear Brother Dhulqarnain; Although you seems a traditional intellectual of Quraan , no doubt, you proved your stance/version in a most intelligently articulated way, But not new for us.***  
 
All praises due to Allah, but thank you for your kind words.  
 
***Being a meager student /research workers of Quran, we (the Aastana teem)exploring the true message of Alkitab through “RATAL” in Alkitab itself (the way you also appreciated in your posts), it is only possible by put aside the traditional/orthodox way of translation all at once.***  
 
Come, come, Dear Maoz, you are no mere meager student, you are a master of Al-Quran! No false modesty allowed.  
 
***For example you have been insisted to mention the NAMES OF PROPHETS other than the name mentioned in Quran or in any(present/past) era. Remember our version is, that, the names mentioned in Quran like( Ibraheem,Muses, yaqoob,Mohammad,Yahya, etc) are not their proper noun(bio data) ,rather الأَسْمَاءَ mean their attributes, for example as mentioned in verses 2/31-33, 22/78, 7/121.***  
 
Yes, I know this is your version/position and I would now like to explore your version. You, and the others, have declared that the so-called proper names of prophets mentioned in Al-Quran, are not, in fact, their actual names, as say given by their parents. Okay, well, now you have to prove this! You have made a declarative statement , and, as such, the BURDEN OF PROOF now rests with you. Now, you presented me with 3 ayats, which, ostensibly, prove your assertion. I don’t see it, so, please, using the ayats you gave me, PROVE that those names are not actual birth names as given by their parents.  
 
***Because Alquran/Alkitab is beyond time and space, therefore the attribute instead of Proper noun has been described as an eternal message, it is up to the each society member to recognize the prophet of the time( by reading/observing/matching their qualifications written in Alquran), no matter the MOHAMMAD/Muses/yaqoob/ dawood etc of the time might be called by their proper name as a X,Y,Z.in their societies.***  
 
This is simply your opinion and conjecture, unless, you can prove those names are not actual birth names.  
 
Also. please provide the ayats where Allah says--  
 
" it is up to the each society member to recognize the prophet of the time( by reading/observing/matching their qualifications written in Alquran".  
 
Once again, you have made a declarative statement and now the BURDEN OF PROOF is on you.  
 
You see, sooner or later, hopefully anyway, the following ayats are going to have real meaning for you:  
 
7:33 Say: My Lord forbids/make haram... that you associate with Allah that for which He has sent down NO AUTHORITY, and that you say of Allah WHAT YOU KNOW NOT.  
 
17:36 And FOLLOW NOT that of which thou hast NO KNOWLEDGE...  
 
These ayats make it cyrstal clear that it is haram to say anything (that is, conjecture or give opinions) of Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, His Prophets, and His Deen without absolute proof which He provides in His Quran/His Words.  
 
2:185 The month of Ramadan is that in which the Quran was revealed, a guidance to men and CLEAR PROOFS of the guidance and the Criterion...  
 
So, you have three declarative statements to prove:  
 
1. The name of the prophets are not actual birth/bio names.  
 
2. It is up to the each society member to recognize the prophet of the time( by reading/observing/matching their qualifications written in Alquran),/prophets are an onging process.  
 
3. Prophets existed along with "Muhammad".  
 
Need names for # 2 and 3.  
 
Almost forgot, thank Allah for the edit feature:  
 
 
PROPHETS AND PROPER NAMES/NOUNS  
 
PROPER NOUN: A name used for an individual person, place, or organization, spelled with initial capital letters.  
 
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=proper+noun&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=YNtkTtmrCuq80AGO6K2kCg&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQkQ4&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=7d86af9665111856&biw=1280&bih=878  
 
The names you gave me as not being proper names/nouns:  
 
IBRAHIM: accusative masculine proper noun → Ibrahim  
 
http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=22&verse=78  
 
 
MUSA: nominative masculine proper noun → Musa  
 
ISA: nominative proper noun → Jesus  
 
YAQUB: genitive proper noun → Yaqub  
 
http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=2&verse=136  
 
 
HAROUN: genitive masculine proper noun → Harun  
 
http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=7&verse=122  
 
Looking forward to your proofs.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

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Dear Aurangzaib. Please explain about the 99 Names of Allah. What is the reality and what Quran says. furthermore pople also claim to prove Rasool S.A.W. names (quantity i don't exactly remember) from Quran. Question by: Adnan Yousuf Zai On 17/03/2010
 
Dear Mr. Aurangzaib: Please explain about the 99 Names of Allah, do such names exist in Quran? Question by: Adnan Khan On 17/03/2010
 
Asslam-o-Alikum.. Mujhe Pata hai mera sawal us level mien buhat chota hai jis level per app research kar rahe hain magar please 4 Cheezen in detail batain 1) Nazr-o-Niaz 2) Dargah 3) Huzoor (S.W.T.) Bashar Ya Noor 4) Huzoor (S.W.T.) ka Elm-e-Gaib Question by: Umair_Hamidani From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 26/03/2010
 
Respected dr. Qamar zaman kindly give a detailed concept about the life ,if any, after death with Quanic references especially, and had we spent a life before this present life. Question by: dr shahid From PAKISTAN On 26/03/2010
 
Dear Dr. Qamar Zaman sb. please define the life after death from quran, regarding punishment, reward. Question by: Dr. Samreen Mohsin From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 27/03/2010
 
Question is open to the forum Does Islam shun or celebrate life?? Question by: MohYam On 31/03/2010
 
Dear aurangzaib sahib regards,the almost entire dean has been misinterprated and being followed by mass (so called muslims).In the light of Dr Qamars Quraanic research ,the most of europe seems nearly muslim states ware as muslims otherwise ,is it? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 09/04/2010
 
sir, According to Quran, i heard that God is beyond man's thinkings and could not be limitized or shaped and also not imaginated(equel to nothing).If someone accepts existance of God then he is wrong. Question by: mac.cruise On 17/04/2010
 
dear dr qamar zaman,i want to ask you that at the time of imams how could such a large number of muslims be decived by tellin that the quranic word salat means the ritulistic namaz.sir i am so curious to know plz answer my question Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 30/04/2010
 
dear dr qamar zaman i wolul like to ask you whether you have written other books besides the bokks given at your site.if yes plz tell me the names of a few more books.may God bless you.Ameen Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 03/05/2010
 
dear dr qamar zaman my question is only for you i would like to ask you about GHUSAL after ejaculation in islam.is it necessary?what quran says about this? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 04/05/2010
 
dear mr qamar zaman or aurangzeb i have heard from mullahs that a non-muslim i.e a hindu or christian or any ,will never ever enter the jannah i.e the heaven no matter how much beneficial for humanityh he is.what quran says? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 10/05/2010
 
dear dr qamar zaman or aurangzeb i have read in quran that muslims are not allowed to have a friendship with christian or jews i do not know the verse.plz elaborate can we have frienship with chritians or jews or non muslims? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 10/05/2010
 
my brother aurangzeb is eating parsad from hindus halal in islam. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 10/05/2010
 
dear aurangzeb you said parsad is not haram.but what about the verse of the quran where allah says that blood and pig and any thing upon which the nane of sth other than allah is taken is haram.so parsad should be haram.isn't it?plz elaborate Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 11/05/2010
 
brother auranzaib or qamar zaman is shaking hand with a non mahram halal Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 12/05/2010
 
a person told me that salat is the same ritual namaz and quoted versr from the quran which tell three times namaz i will give you reference only cause the lack of space (11:114) and(17:78).plz expalin it is very confusing brother aurangzaib. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 13/05/2010
 
dear dr qamar what is "TAWAAF".tell me about the hadiths which says:The "TAWAAF" will be continue untill the qayamat.is this a forged Hadith?plz elaborate Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 14/05/2010
 
dear aurangzaib, plz let me know about "ISTIKHARA".is it islamic?i have seen many people offering istikhara prayer Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 17/05/2010
 
dear aurangzaib i have heard that the "prophet Ibraham" was thrown into fire by "Namrood".and he was protected by Allah in the fire.is this mentioned in quran.isnt it a miracle and i think Allah does not do miracles.plz elaborat.thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/05/2010
 
My understanding so far that Quran is free from myth, miracles, fantasies, superstitions, dogmas.etc.. So what is the Concept of Jannat & Dozakh… Question by: Danish roomi On 18/05/2010
 
Salam.. mojuda QURAN kya wohi QURAN hai jo AP S.A.W.W ne murattab krwaya???agr han to phir wo asal quran dunya me kahin mojud hai.?? or agar nahin to phir hum is QURAN pr kese etbar kren jese ahadis sahih nahi to wese QURAN b SAHIH Nahi. Question by: UMAR HUSSAIN On 18/05/2010
 
dear aurangzaib a person argud with me that we should not use our mind in islam because we say that allah is merciful but look in the jungle one animal kills another ruthlessly leavind its offsprings alone.is it not cruelity.plz give me answer Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 20/05/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib, i acting for women in dramas and films or coming on televiion in news ,shows etc allowed in ilam.plz explain in the light of quran Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 20/05/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib, pal let me know whether asking the parents of bride for "Jahaz" i .e dowry allowed in islam.give a satisfying answer in the light of the glorious quran Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 25/05/2010
 
Jnab Aurangzaib sb / Dr.Qamar sb. Is it zina with wife to go to her for enjoyment and not for child. Question by: alam1162@gmail.com From INDIA (DELHI) On 27/05/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib i have heard from mullas that on the day of judgement the prophet wii do "SHAFA'At" for us.and qoute a verse from the ayatul kursi e.g "ila biznihi"is it right will prophet do SHAFA"AT For us.i think it is wrong plz explain Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 28/05/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib some people have misconception that God is not good becuse if he knew that a person was going to the hell then why he created him.plz give a satiusfactory answer from your islamic mind Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 29/05/2010
 
what Quran says about "DAJJAL"?... Question by: Dr. Samreen Mohsin From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 01/06/2010
 
dear aurangzaib or dr qamar tell me how to argue with a person who says that growing beard is a fundamental part of slam and your islam is incopmplete without it.plz give me some arguments sothat i can answer such blind people.God bless you Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 02/06/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib or qamar zaman the muslims preach there religion throughtout the world and so do the muskims of saudi arabia.but no non-muslim is allowed to preach his religion in saudi arabia.is it not unfair? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 03/06/2010
 
Dr Sahab when we are looking for everything in Quran than how can we say that CARNIVOROUS ANIMALS like cat,lion,dog and other animals like horse etc are Haram in Islam as we dont find any verse which says that these are haram? Question by: Nadeem_Akhtar From PAKISTAN On 03/06/2010
 
Dr sahab u say tht sex 4 enjoyment is permited whereas G.A Pervez says under 4:24(al.quran) while explaning words MOHSENEN AND GHAIR MUSAFEHEN that it is not permited and it can be done only when baby is needed.plzz explain Question by: Nadeem_Akhtar From PAKISTAN On 03/06/2010
 
sir plz tell me why islam allows a muslim man to marry a ehle kitab woman and does not permit a muslim woman to marry a ehle kitab. why there is such boundation over a muslim lady?thnx Question by: ali.haideer From PAKISTAN (LARKANA) On 04/06/2010
 
brother auragzaib is not the worship of idols shirk.when you argue with people that hindus too will enter the jannah they quote a verse from the quran that allah never forgives shirk as idol worship is a shirk so hindus can never enter the jannah Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 05/06/2010
 
dear mr aurangzaib is the profession of a lawyer permissible in islam.beacuse i have heard many people that it is haram and the income of a lawyer is haram.plz explain Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 08/06/2010
 
salaam Dr. sahib, Quran means reading/recitation, so the hadith followers argue that it is just for reading. how to give them a justified answer. and why is Quran translated as reading when it is for implementing? Question by: shireen On 09/06/2010
 
Salam Aurangzeb Bhai, would u please explain the mystery of kaba for me, why it is for us ect.......... Question by: Nadeem_Akhtar From PAKISTAN On 11/06/2010
 
dear brother auragzaib quran says pray for the MAGHFIRAT of your parents .what does it mean? if my parents have done something against quran how can allah forgive because of my pray.plz let me know about this Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 11/06/2010
 
dear aurangzaib is there any mention of shroud for the deceased in the quran?is it neccessary?plz explain.God bless you Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 13/06/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib plz tell me about some arabic lughats that are standard and suitable for me caz you know my level.and whats about al mawrid arabic-english dictionary?God bless you Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 14/06/2010
 
dear aurangzaib or qamar zaman if it was not the wife of the prophet zachariah that was barren but was his nation than whats your opinion about the verse(21-89-90) which says WA ISLAHAN LAKA ZAOJA and we cured his wife. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 16/06/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib is sayng "ALLAH O AKBAR" right according to quran? God bless you Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 17/06/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib some people dedicate goat to their dead parents.or when they are in some trouble or ill they decide to dedicate a goat etc to dedicate.i think it is not right but i am not that confident plz give this confidence.explain Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 20/06/2010
 
dear qamar zaman or aurangzaib a muslim is one that lives in peace.if someone abuses ones sister or moher or wife it is quite unbearable.what should a muslim do in this situation?should he fight with such a person?plz elaborate Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 22/06/2010
 
dr qamar zaman sahab regards in one of your answers in blog you have mentioned that if any none muslam is doing a good deed he will be rewared in life after death and you have quoted a verse of quran, but i want to ask about it. Question by: ali.haideer From PAKISTAN (LARKANA) On 25/06/2010
 
dear brother aurangzaib or qamar zaman i want to learn about the fact about karbala i know that it is a false story but i want the reality from you.thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 25/06/2010
 
dear aurangzaib or qamar zaman kindly let me know about "NAZR E BAD"?thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 27/06/2010
 
the quran has been devided into RAKOO'AT and PARAS.is this division right Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 03/07/2010
 
dear dr qamar zaman is the hell eternal despite of the mercy of God Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 06/07/2010
 
Aslamoalikum Dr. Qamar I have to ask you a question about life after death Question by: ali.haideer From PAKISTAN (LARKANA) On 11/07/2010
 
Dr Qamar and Aurangzeb Bhai, there is a verse in Quran 8:63 and 49:10,3:102 my question is about these verses, let me explain my question. Question by: ali.haideer From PAKISTAN (LARKANA) On 11/07/2010
 
is burying the dead in grave neccessary ?hindus burn their dead is it right? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 11/07/2010
 
Dear Docter Qamer-uz-Zaman, A.A 1. Please explain in what sence Quran is the word of GOD? Question by: pervez On 11/07/2010
 
Dear Docter Qamer, In your opinion how for Iqbal"s philosophy of Khoodi is in cnfirmity with quranic teachings. Question by: pervez On 11/07/2010
 
i have heard that the prophet uzair was given death for 100 year by allah and then he was arosen.is it not a miracle?is it real plz expalin Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 13/07/2010
 
salaam Dr. Sahib, plz explain 5:101 and 102. what kind of question would those be that would turn people into disbelievers? Question by: shireen On 16/07/2010
 
Aslamolalikum Dr Qamar: I want to ask a question about Economical System, I am explaing it below. Question by: ali.haideer From PAKISTAN (LARKANA) On 16/07/2010
 
Dr. Qamar there are verses in Quran whose usual translation give the whole pictures of Human development but it is imposible to believe on these verses 1400 years ago,therefore plz give the exact translations of all those verses. Question by: ali.haideer From PAKISTAN (LARKANA) On 16/07/2010
 
Assal O Allaikum Paidaish Masih main Aap Ne yahya Ka Zikar kia (Salasa Alleel) 3 Raat hey Aap Ne is ka mafhoom Kaha Se lia he Aur Dorr-e-Zulmat ye kaha se lia he.( Aamrati ) Jis se murad Aurat K hain Aap Ne is se Muraad Qaum kaha se lia? Question by: babarsharif34@yahoo.com On 17/07/2010
 
dear dr qamar zaman i have seen mullah to quote (2:102) to prove black magic .i think this verse it too mistranslated.plz explian? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 19/07/2010
 
is masturbation haram according to the following verse (23:5-7).i have seen mullah quoting this verse to prove masturbation haram.is it true? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 24/07/2010
 
dr zakir naik interpretes the verse (21:30) as the prediction of BIG BANG THEORY.i ask dr qamar whether this interpretation is true?plz tell does the above verse really tells about the BIG BANG THEORY? thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 25/07/2010
 
dear dr qamar zaman i argued with a person that quran is complete way of life(ZABITA E HAYAT).he told me if quran is complete than which sort of system it seems to establish.i will tell the rest part of question in comments becuse of the lak of sps Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 01/08/2010
 
dear aurangzaib or dr qamar is the clonning of human being allowed in islam? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 07/08/2010
 
Why God did not sent women as Prophet to guide humanity? Any one may like to answere. Question by: pervez On 07/08/2010
 
dea aurangzaib can we say merry christmas to a christian? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 08/08/2010
 
Dear Doctor Qamer sahib, A.A Allah is beyond human understanding but it is subject of Quran, why not life after death? Question by: pervez On 10/08/2010
 
IF QURAN IS BEYOND TIME AND SPACE WHY IT WAS REVEALED IN 23 YEARS? Question by: pervez On 10/08/2010
 
In accordance with QURANIC teachings is there any relationship of natural calamities like floods ,earthquakes etc with human deeds? Question by: pervez On 10/08/2010
 
dear aurangzaib does the Quran merely means RECITATION? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 12/08/2010
 
Please review" wahdatul waajood " in the light of Quran? Question by: pervez On 13/08/2010
 
dear aurangzaiib is the verse (2:222-223) about MENSTRUATION?i think it is about something else not menstruation.plz tell me what it means Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 15/08/2010
 
dear auragzaib Mullahs say how we will distribute The "WAR BOOTY" among the" MUJAHIDIN" if we do not believe in hadith books.how the prophet distributed the war booty, the quran does not tell.How should i answer such blind mullahs.Thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 17/08/2010
 
God has taken the responsibility of Quran for its protection, why not of other divine books if the message was the same and it was beyond time and space? Question by: pervez On 19/08/2010
 
dear auragzaib does ABUBAKAR mean the father of vigin(BAKIRA KA BAAP) or something else.plz tell me is calling him abubakar right.i think there is something wrong?Isn't it? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 19/08/2010
 
dear aurangzaib does the verse " And the Thunder and other Malaika strive to glorify Him by carrying out there duties in awe of him (13:13) show that Malaika are the forces of nature?or it is mistranslated.?this is the translation of allama pervez Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 19/08/2010
 
dear aurangzaib can you plz tell me about the history of Firqa ahl e hadith i mean its emergence ,history etc. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 21/08/2010
 
Dear aurangzaib Does islam allows to kill or punish people like Salman Rushdi?i think islam can not allow.am i right? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 22/08/2010
 
did moses really killed a man by hitting him according to surah qasas? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 23/08/2010
 
Dr Qamar sahib has reffered to a book Tafhim Ul Quran book 2 last line page 80 in the link below http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?SID=40&QID=453 I want to ask which book is it?who has writen this? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 25/08/2010
 
It is said that Abu Bakar launched Jihad against a group of people that refused to give ZAKAT.Is it right? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 25/08/2010
 
GOD IS ONE BUT WHY AT TIMES HE USES THE WORD WE, (NAHNO,PLURAL) INSTEAD OF I, (SINGULAR) WHEN HE ADDRESSES HUMAN-BEINGS IN HIS BOOK? Question by: pervez On 26/08/2010
 
WHAT IS THE CONCEPT OF INTEREST (SOOD) IN ACCORDANCE WITH QURAN? Question by: pervez On 26/08/2010
 
salaam Dr. Sahib, 1. what is the purpose of saying pbuh for prophets/messengers. does it give them peace after they are dead? 2. why especially for Muhammed and not for other prophets/messengers? Question by: shireen On 27/08/2010
 
Out of fourteen major religions of the world, is Islam the best religion to follow ? It can be noted that out of 6.5 billion world population only 1.4 billion are Muslims; among whom only about 24% are practicing Muslim. Question by: bqayyum From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 27/08/2010
 
Dear Docter Qamer, PLEASE THROUGH SOME LIGHT ON HUMAN NATURE, IN THE LIGHT OF QURAN ? Question by: pervez On 28/08/2010
 
In the quran Allah says that the body of Pharo will be preserved (10:92).Today it is said that Faroah's body was dscovered during excavations in 1898 .Is it the body of pharoa or this verse is mistranslated? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 28/08/2010
 
What is the significance of genotype and phenotype of a persons upbringing in the light of Quran? Question by: pervez On 02/09/2010
 
Dear aurangzaib the Lexicographer's of arabic were also IRANIS like Raghib,Ibne faris etc.And there is no lexicon writen in the age of prophet.is it possible that these IMAMS may also have done some corruption like the IMAMS of ahadith? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 05/09/2010
 
Dear Docter Qamer , Please give references of Quranic verses which guarantees individuals life after death? I request humbly for Docter Sahibs personal answer. Question by: pervez On 08/09/2010
 
Salam Qamar Sb, my question is that if we search gradually development of islam according to Muhammad's mind, then ultimately we concludes that Muhammad borrowed as Sikh pioneer Nanak did, is it true? please reply comprehensively? Question by: amnesty4all On 11/09/2010
 
Dear Docter Sahib , kindly explain verse no 81/19 sura taqweer ayat no 19. Question by: pervez On 12/09/2010
 
Dear aurangzaib or dr qamar can you plz prove KASHAF and ILHAM fake from Quran? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 13/09/2010
 
Dear Dr Sahib and brother aurangzaib can you plz tell me that what was the teaching method of prophet muhammad he was a mualim (teacher) so how he explained the KITAB and HIKMAH? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 14/09/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamar and aurangzaib i ave a question regarding the translation of verse(5:103).i will explain my question below in comments due to the lack of space. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 17/09/2010
 
KINDLY EXPLAIN IN DETAIL , AYAT NO 5-6 OF SURA AL-MOMINOON? Question by: pervez On 19/09/2010
 
Please explain verse 33 of sura noor? Question by: pervez On 19/09/2010
 
Please translate verse 223/2. traditional translation is, Question by: pervez On 21/09/2010
 
Dear brother aurangzaib i want to ask you was prophet muhammad given WAHI outside the quran?is there any verse in the quran which says that Prophet Muhammad was not given WAHI outside the quran?Thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 21/09/2010
 
Please explain Ayat no 34 of sura al-nisa. Question by: pervez On 22/09/2010
 
what the Quran says about the theory of evolution?Does the quran suport it? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 23/09/2010
 
Dear Dr Sahib and brother Aurangzaib kindly expalin what SUNNAT is according to the Quran? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 27/09/2010
 
Please explain concept of Praying in Islam? Please do not not mix it with Namaz. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 29/09/2010
 
Please briefly describe economic values Quran desires to be followed in a welfare state? Question by: pervez On 30/09/2010
 
Please briefly describe political values Quran desires to be followed in an Islamic state? Question by: pervez On 30/09/2010
 
What should be the salient features of the defense of an Islamic state in the present scenario in the light of Quranic values ? Mubashir Syed to please include your views on keeping weapons of mass destruction. Question by: pervez On 01/10/2010
 
Historically speaking, a Muslim soldier fights courageously, world knows that, question is why? Question by: pervez On 01/10/2010
 
Please explain origin and meaning of word Allah in Arabic language? Question by: pervez On 09/10/2010
 
Please discuss evolution in the light of" Kun fayakoon" Question by: pervez On 10/10/2010
 
What is God's interest in our well being when he is omnipotent. Please answer this stupid question? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 11/10/2010
 
Where is Muslim world found today in view of new definition of , Muslim, momin etc and does there exist Muslim Umma in these modern times? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 11/10/2010
 
salam dr shab janab sey arz hey k hum english nai jantey,hum kesey quran samaj saktey hain hamarey jeasey kafi loog hain jo ser urdo jantey hain hamara bhe huk hey k deen sumjhain. aghar deen main ibadat nai hey to (maksad e hayyat)kiya hey Question by: iqbalasghar From PAKISTAN (SARA E ALAMGIR) On 14/10/2010
 
salam, janab dr sahab jawab aap sey manga thaa jawab koi or deeta hey kiya ye theek hey ye bhi ho sakta hey k jawab deney walla meri tara k student ho brae mehbani khood jawab dain shukria Question by: iqbalasghar From PAKISTAN (SARA E ALAMGIR) On 18/10/2010
 
PLEASE REVIEW SIGNIFICANCE OF" MAIHER" IN MUSLIM MARRIAGE LAW IN THE LIGHT OF QURAN? Question by: pervez On 21/10/2010
 
sr. mere sawal kajawab nahi mila jin aurat ka shohar marr jae woh 4 mahina 10 din ki eddat kion karti he? haqqoqunnissa parh leney k bad phi sawal mera yahi he ? Question by: babarsharif34@yahoo.com On 21/10/2010
 
Please explain "QAYAMAT" in detail? Will it come when the whole universe will be destroyed and ALLAH will disclose NAMA-I-AIMAL of every individual and his fate for paradise or hell will be decided? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 22/10/2010
 
Gay's, homosexuals claim they are born like that....What do our Astanamembers have to say about it ? Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 22/10/2010
 
Salaamun 'Alaikum, After careful research and study on some 'key' Quranic concepts, I realize that we are to ESTABLISH DEEN in our lives REGARDLESS of the Secularists and their man-made laws. What are your thoughts on this viewpoint? Question by: Damon From UNITED STATES (PITTSBURGH) On 23/10/2010
 
does the concept of hoor exist in christianity?plz help me know it.i need it very much Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 26/10/2010
 
Sir, AAP KI KITAB HAQIQAT MALAIKA PARHHI AIK SAWAL THA. ALLAH NE HAMAIN MALAIKA PAR IMAN LANE KO KAHA HE. AGAR AAP NE JO TAREEF KI MALIKA KI TO US PAR IMAN KA KIA TALOQ BANTA HE. Question by: babarsharif34@yahoo.com On 05/11/2010
 
Some Aastana peer watch the Video on the link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaCWVXNByTc) and comment on its religious aspect Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 05/11/2010
 
Have you read Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 07/11/2010
 
We have discussions about life after death and how disruptive it was to imagine that there is no life after death. Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 08/11/2010
 
Is "wahy" part of "sunnat Allah"? If so, how does it works in relation to the laws of nature? Can it be proven? I have another question too (answer one,get one free)please explain 2:78, what it means& whts with the slaves, free, women, etc? Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 10/11/2010
 
MERRY EIDMAS AND HAPPY OLD YEARS,SORRY I MEAN CHRISTMAS MUBARIK . Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 16/11/2010
 
Dear Doctor Qamer ,Muslims believe Prophet Muhammad is "Khatim-un-nabeen" Kindly support this faith with reason? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 19/11/2010
 
Have a look at this : http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 21/11/2010
 
IS QURAN A SIMPLE BOOK TO UNDERSTSND? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 23/11/2010
 
Someone please explain the "dream" concept of Prophet Yusuf? What do the Quran say about dreams,are they true or just thoughts? Im waiting,help:- O Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 24/11/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamar Zaman Please translate verse 2:219 correctly. "And they ask what they should give.Say what is surplus".Does the arabic word "AFU" means surplus? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 27/11/2010
 
Salaam. Is the Quran saying anything about Aliens ,monsters from other planets etc :P?? Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 30/11/2010
 
There is an ongoing discussion on “Ourbeacon” regarding the phrase “Allah-hu-Akbar”. I believe the subject matter to be extremely profound, something which members of Aastana would appreciate reading. Question by: William From UNITED KINGDOM On 30/11/2010
 
Is there any word in the Quraan for BELIEFor BELIEVE? Is Islam an ideology(A comprehensive and coherent set of basic beliefs about political, economic, social and cultural affairs that is held in common by a sizable group of people within a society)? Question by: Hafiz Abdullah From PAKISTAN (RAWALPINDI) On 01/12/2010
 
What are the meanings of EIMAN n MOMIN in 49: 14-15? Question by: Hafiz Abdullah From PAKISTAN (RAWALPINDI) On 01/12/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamar Zaman do you believe that people can still get WAHI from Allah,and become Nabi?Do you not believe that Muhammad was the last who received direct knowledge from God?Why do you say Muhammad is appointing authority of other prophets? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 02/12/2010
 
I have created a branch of the Aastana blog called "Linguistic & grammatical Exposition of the Quran" on Facebook and hope all of you join. nahi to..argg Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 04/12/2010
 
Dear All: Please go through my comments. Question by: Adnan Muhammad Khan From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 04/12/2010
 
PLEASE EXPLAIN AYAT NO 7 OF SURA 33 ( AL AHZAB) Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 06/12/2010
 
Does Quran gives the concept of Nationhood or Countries as they exist today. If yes then what should be the mode and form of Government. Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 07/12/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamarzaman: Plz enlighten us about the verse14/48 keeping in view the context of the subject from 42-52.Also the verses 11/107-108,with respect to the context 11/103-108.Thanks Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 15/12/2010
 
How many men and women claimed Prophet hood after Muhammad and did anyone of them made any significant achievement or influenced humanity positively? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 18/12/2010
 
Dear All, what is Ahmed Huluci's Ellah ( idoelogy ) of Islam ? Question by: Mubashir Syed From INDIA (HYDERABAD) On 20/12/2010
 
Plz explain 38:27, how can one become kafir if he think differently about the universe. Also explain 29:44,"signs in the heaven and earth for those who BELIEVE"? Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 24/12/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamar Zaman or brother Aurangzaib a person told me if God can communicate with Moses,Jesus and Muhammad.So why can he not communicate with anybody else today?Please answer my question.Thank you very much Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 25/12/2010
 
Why do people try to prove the Qur'an through science? We find science in other books than the Quran, why are not they labeled as "divine"? Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 26/12/2010
 
I wonder how and why the Human Beings have assumed the status of the best life spices on Earth (or Universe). The term "ASHRAF-UL-MAKHLUQAT" was also coined unilaterally without considering the significance of Mankind in the Universe. Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 27/12/2010
 
Please watch , a good video on zakat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vtmZNziH6U&feature=player_embedded#! Question by: alam1162@gmail.com From INDIA (DELHI) On 29/12/2010
 
PLEASE DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SCIENCE AND DIVINITY ? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 30/12/2010
 
AL-KITAB + LAWS OF NATURE, is divine guidance as Moazzem says, Why humanity was plunged in to religious wars??? SCIENTISTS NEVER FIGHT IF THEY ARE PROVED WRONG. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 31/12/2010
 
Muslims invented 5 pillows of Islam. Why learning Arabic is not mandatory in Islam?? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 31/12/2010
 
Dear Dr. Qamar Zaman: can you explain: [6/105] وَكَذَلِكَ نُصَرِّفُ الْآيَاتِ وَلِيَقُولُواْ دَرَسْتَ وَلِنُبَيِّنَهُ لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ Question by: M.N.Khalid From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 01/01/2011
 
Sura Baqra Ayah 223 "Your Women are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth as ye will ......". If Allah had to restrict husbands to wifes only then why was "AZWAJ" not used instead of "NISA". Here NISA means any woman (not necessarily wife). Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 01/01/2011
 
Aap ke nazar me Tauheen e Risalat koi jurm hai ya nahi? 2- Tauheen e Risalat ke mujrim ko kia saza milni chahye? 3- kia ghair muslimo ko is baat ki ijazat honee chahyee ke wo Rasool e Akram PBUH ki shan me gustakhi kar saken? Question by: UMAR HUSSAIN On 04/01/2011
 
dear dr qamar sahib please translate the verse 4:34.thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 06/01/2011
 
Has Human's beautiful (Animal) instincts and natural desires been checked by Divinity ? Question by: M.N.Khalid From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 08/01/2011
 
Is Sex allowed with Slave Women in Islam? Dr Zakir Naik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UVmSQHquJc&feature=player_embedded#! Question by: mohd.areeb On 08/01/2011
 
Dear Dr Qamar sahib i am not noticing your presence on the blog.You know that without you this blog is nothing.I know you are very busy.But i request you to please give some time to the blog.Thank you very much Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 09/01/2011
 
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jan2011-daily/10-01-2011/col8.htm Every one is invited to comment on above cited column written by Ansar Abasi, especially. Dr. Sb., Aurangzaib sb., Moazzam Sb., Dr. Shahid and Sister Nargis. Question by: Adnan Muhammad Khan From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 10/01/2011
 
A tribe in Africa who exercise "incest", and believe it to be a divine law. A consequences of such action are injurious to following generations, What are those consequences ? Question by: M.N.Khalid From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 10/01/2011
 
What is good about the "Little Mosque on the Prairie"? Question by: Zubair From UNITED STATES (WASHINGTON) On 11/01/2011
 
Surah Al-Ahzab Ayat No.57 and 61.. for Mr.Adnan and others. Question by: UMAR HUSSAIN On 11/01/2011
 
-Is the Quran changed?If yes,what is changed, how do we know it is changed, and what does it mean when it says no1 can change it?(i have a clue about the last one, but want to share it when i read your answers :-D) Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 25/01/2011
 
How to increase your knowledge? Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 25/01/2011
 
Brother Aurangzaib, I read Q&A of the your blog and found this ref of "Tabqaat-e-Ibn-e-Saad" to Dr. Samreen On23 Sept2010, http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?MID=4&SID=21. If the author of this book is `Abdullah ibn Sa`d Ibn Abi Sarh' Question by: Syeda On 29/01/2011
 
What is free will? What is basic instinct? How does free will separate man from animals? Question by: Junaid From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 31/01/2011
 
QURAN GIVES US PERMANENT VALUES BEYOND TIME AND SPACE, WHAT ARE THOSE? LET US ENUMERATE AND DISCUSS THEM ONE BY ONE? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 02/02/2011
 
Salaam Shalom shabba dabba do ,what is the "driving force" in Human beings, and what is the "nafs" thing? Are human beings superior to other creatures ? If yes, why?hhhhmmmm Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 17/02/2011
 
PERSONALITY IS CHANGELESSNESS IN CHANGE. WHAT IS THAT? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 25/02/2011
 
CAN PROPHETS MAKE MISTAKES? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 10/03/2011
 
Salaam to all (and me) ,What giant "fish" (whale/shark-zilla?) ate Prophet Yunus (37:142) Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 12/03/2011
 
Dear Aurangzaib and dr qamar sahib IS ALLAH THE ACTIVE FA'IL (DOER) IN THE UNIVERSE,OR HE HAS SET LAWS WHICH MANTAIN THE ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE?if allah is not the active fa'il will it not make him a far unapproachable God? n is allah a personal God? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 15/03/2011
 
Please review law of DEET. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 16/03/2011
 
Dear brother aurangzaib plz let me know about the actual story of TOOFAN E NOH (noah flood).i think the so called n2I interpretation is fake.am i right? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/03/2011
 
dear brother auragzaib plz let me know about the actual story of toofan e nooh.i think there is sth wrong with the so called n2i interpretation.am i right Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/03/2011
 
salaam Dr. Sahib, Does curse effect any one at all according to Quran? Question by: shireen On 22/03/2011
 
What's the point of mental development & how is it beneficial 4 the humanity? Does the Quran explain why we have to expand our capabilities when we are all goin to die anyway? how will Youm qayama have any meaning to me, when I'm not here? Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 22/03/2011
 
Good News As convener of Janat e Pakistan, Dr. AsarulIslam has nominated Mr. Aurangzaib Yousafzai as the adhoc President and “Party Leader” in Rawalpindi/Islamabad What are the Quranic injunctions for a political party ? Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 23/03/2011
 
Congratulations to brother AURANGZAIB!!! Dear Brother Aurangzaib i have come to know that you have been choosen as the president of JANAT E PAKISTAN party.I am very happy and want to congratulate you from the core of my hear!!! Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 24/03/2011
 
Brother Moazzam! Should we join/launch any political party to establish the true Islamic state?? As there are already so many parties working under the same manifesto. Question by: naeem sheikh From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 24/03/2011
 
Can anyone announce manifesto of Jannet-i-Pakistan political party to see how it is different from manifesto of other political parties in Pakistan? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 24/03/2011
 
Will AI surpass Human Intelligence? Question by: Zubair From UNITED STATES (WASHINGTON) On 27/03/2011
 
Brother Aurangzaib ! With out you this blog seems like a picture with out color. eagerly waiting for your comments at mine 29th,march. HOWALLAZEE URSILA RASOOLAHO BIL HUDAA WA DEEN ALHAQQ LIYUZHIRAHO ALLADDIN-E-KULLIH, 6:33, 48:28, , 61:9 . Question by: naeem sheikh From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 30/03/2011
 
Could woman be an IMAM/NABI/RASOOL in a man dominating societies.While keeping in view her physical system, structure, and her psychology,also MALKA SABA.If not then what about in the societies where she has equal rights? Question by: naeem sheikh From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 30/03/2011
 
Moazzam saheb and Aastana Members! Your teachings reflects that there is no any predestined event being played at earth. What about the historical steps been described in Quran about prophet Musa and Yousaf see verses 12/4-5, 28/5-7?? Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 06/04/2011
 
The world has succeeded in creating global village by study of "lohimahfooz" and "Alkitab". Is it wise to struggle for a state having label of "Islamic state" which will create a sect in humanity and will not be acceptable even by Muslim Ummah? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 13/04/2011
 
1- Agr KHATIM ka matlab validater hae to MUHAMMAD se pehle kaun ye fareeza sr anjam deta tha? (haln keh Quran doosre nabbiun ka to zikr hae validater ka nahen) 2- Aur MUHAMMAD k bad ab kaun validater hae? Question by: Dr. Iqbal On 18/04/2011
 
In 3/81 " aur jb ham ne nabbiun se MISAAQ lya , jinhen ham ne KITAB aur HIKMAT de k jb tumhare pas koi RASOOL ae , us ki jo tumhare pas hae to tum us pe IMAAN le ana aur us ki NUSRAT krna....." wo kaunse NABI the aur RASOOL hen aur IMAN ka matlab? Question by: Dr. Iqbal On 18/04/2011
 
My dearest brother bob,please throw light on following ayats, sura haj ayat 47, almaaruj ayat 4, ayat 17 : 52 , ayat 10 : 45 , ayat 23 : 113. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 22/04/2011
 
In the present scenario of changing human civilization, Does the institution of family holds permanent value beyond time and space? What guidance we get from Quran. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 27/04/2011
 
Dear Dr Qamar Zaman, I wondered if the Quran are making any statements which are not certifiable, or describes mechanisms that our mind cannot understand? If yes, then how are such claims and depictions advantageous? Question by: bob From UNITED KINGDOM On 30/04/2011
 
Dear Members, I want to know about the true story of Toofan e Nooh. Is it different from orthodox story? Wassalam Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 01/05/2011
 
Dear members, please share your valuable thoughts about these questions Question by: bob From UNITED KINGDOM On 03/05/2011
 
IF AASTANA MEMBERS ARE NOT CLEAR AT THE VERY BASIC (IMPORTANT) ISSUE OF HAYAT ADDUNYA and AKHIRAH, HOW WOULD THEY GUIDE THE PEOPLE LIKE ME? PEOPLE LIKE MR MOAZZAM COULD ONLY MISGUIDE,AS I POINTED OUT IN THE BEGINNING.BE AWARE Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 03/05/2011
 
Dear All, does Quran try to convince people about existence of GOD which cant be proved??? Question by: Mubashir Syed From INDIA (HYDERABAD) On 04/05/2011
 
HAZRAT ALLAMA MOAZZAM SAHAB ! Enlighten us about the ALLAH O AKBAR. Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 05/05/2011
 
DearAurangzaib and Aastana members! Could atheist be included in the glad tiding offered to mankind in verse 2/62 . Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 06/05/2011
 
Can the Existence of God, as the Creator, be scientifically proved, irrespective of Quran's verdict that the nature of His existence can't be comprehended? Question by: aurangzaib From PAKISTAN On 12/05/2011
 
Allama moazzam Sahab ! IS POLYGAMY HARAM IN ISLAM AS A SPECIAL CASE ? For more detail read my comments Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 13/05/2011
 
What is alam-i-amer and alam-i-khalq, Question by: pervez On 16/05/2011
 
Dear brother Aurangzaib hope you are doing well.Plz let me now what the word RIBA means.Does it mean the interest of bank.Thank you Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/05/2011
 
How can an individual act and help in creating an Islamic society because all efforts for this objective ends up in the demand for a theocratic state. What course of action has been laid down in the Quran Bakhtiar Qayyum Question by: bqayyum From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 21/05/2011
 
Dear Members I wnat to know the divine laws which Quran wants to implement on society. Thanks Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 23/05/2011
 
Dr. Zaman and Aastana Team, While your interpretation of the Quran in "Human Rights" terms is quite refreshing what does the Quran say of one who engages majority of his life in vain deeds(movies, games, relaxing ect) while being peaceful(Muslim)? Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 23/05/2011
 
Dear brother Moazzam plz elaborate what is meant by AL YAHOOD and ALNASARA (as character).I request my respected brother Aurangzaib to take part in the discussion also.Jazakallah. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 23/05/2011
 
Salam Not all Muslims or believers get a Jenna in this life as one could b peaceful all their life n develop cancer, bad kids, divorce, car accident injury, ect.. How do u explain when bad things happen to good peaceful people? Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 24/05/2011
 
51:56 وَمَا خَلَقْتُ ٱلْجِنَّ وَٱلْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ Pls explain the above ayat. wassalam Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 24/05/2011
 
Salam, Dr. Zaman and Students of Quran, what is the point in praying for the sick or praying for anything for that matter if God wills not to intervene in our lives? Yes we must do our part but where's the hope if God will not intervene? Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 25/05/2011
 
If all aspects of life are controlled by the divine laws and Alkitab is also preserved in "Loh-e-Mehfooz", then everything has to pass the test of logic. What then is the logic with Haraam and Halaal according to Quran. Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 25/05/2011
 
Dear Dear ones, is there anything called "soul" in the Quran? Explain like im two years old, here i need spoon feeding or feedingbottle. Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 26/05/2011
 
Dear Dr. Qamar, With all the information on this site and similarly others, how is one to digest it all? There has been a battle to rewire your system to think more rationally and when you think you are, you get another wake up call. Years, maybe? Question by: Shirley C From UNITED STATES (PITTSBURGH) On 26/05/2011
 
Dear brother Mubashir regards,i remember once some Mullah raised objection against the interpretation of MARYAM by Dr QZ that Name can not be translated.Then Dr QZ gave the answer.I request you to send me the link plz.God bless you Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 26/05/2011
 
Aslamoalikum Mozam bhai would you please elaborate the terminology Al-Kitab?? Thanks Question by: ali.haideer From PAKISTAN (LARKANA) On 29/05/2011
 
Please Members What is the true story behind Ashaab e Kahaf, mentioned in soora e Kahaf. In orthodox interpretition these people sleeped in a cave for thousand of years, or something like this. Thanks Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 30/05/2011
 
Salam Dear Brothers Where may I find "Adam o Iblees" English translation of Dr. Zamans book? Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 31/05/2011
 
Salam Dear Brothers (Sisters included) and Aastana Administrators, Does the Quran give us a clear reason of WHY we are on planet Earth in human body and what we are here for? Please see comment below. Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 01/06/2011
 
Dear Brothers and Dr. Zaman, I've been beating myself up over this understanding of shirk or believing in a wrong concept of God. Yes I've read your understanding on this issue but there is a verse in Quran which warns those that say God is trinity Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 02/06/2011
 
Kia app log Hadeeth ko nahi manty? kia app koi hawala hadeeth sy nahi detay. Mojzat ka to Hadeeth main bhi Ziker hay kia app mojzat ko nahi manty? Question by: guest From PAKISTAN On 05/06/2011
 
Dear Moazzam. I want to salute you for your hard work. I started learning Quran only 6 months back and I only started looking at AASTANA couple of weeks back. Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 05/06/2011
 
Dhulqarnain, Can we follow the injeel and Torah of today? Question by: Nargis-Badshah-Salamat From FIJI (FAUJI) On 06/06/2011
 
Tahir Ul Qadri Ne Murday Ko Kalima Padaya (urdu video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mfb6QriVh8 Question by: alam1162@gmail.com From INDIA (DELHI) On 14/06/2011
 
Dear Moazzam i have seen your recent post about Allah.I want to know Is Allah God or it means ISLAMIC STATE.Do you believe in a God who is FA'ALON LIMA YUREED.And what makes you not believe in a God who is an active fa'il? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 14/06/2011
 
dear moazzam DOES GOD EXISTS?And if he is not involved in the universe and i say HE IS DEAD.Will it be okay with you. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 15/06/2011
 
Is the Sunnat of Allah Unchangeable? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 15/06/2011
 
Dear brother Moazzam who authored the Quran according to you?Allah or Muhammad himself?Please do not go in details.Just tell me Allah or Muhammad that who is the author of the Quran.Best wishes!!! Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/06/2011
 
Dear Moazzam What is the meaning of " INNAHOO LAQUALOO RASOOLIN KAREEM " if the text of quran is from almighty Allah Question by: alam1162@gmail.com From INDIA (DELHI) On 19/06/2011
 
Dear Members,One group waiting for youm ul aakhira as life after death, other group said that youm ul aakhira will be happend in this world. Many people died waiting for this in this world. Are these two groups not in the same condition of waiting Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 20/06/2011
 
Dear All, Recently my uncle have a stoke and his right side is completely paralysed. He cant speak nor can comprehend.He is facing very hard days. What do you think, is he facing makafat e amal. Please comment Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 02/07/2011
 
HAS ALLAH, IN HIS QURAN, RULED ON THE EXPRESSION OF HUMAN SEXUAL BEHAVIOR OR IS MAN FREE TO DECIDE ON HIS OWN HOW TO EXPRESS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 08/07/2011
 
IS INCEST, AS A PARTICULAR SEXUAL BEHAVIOR, ALLAOWABLE OR NOT ALLOWABLE IN DEEN AL-ISLAM? IF ALLOWABLE, WHY? IF NOT ALLOWABLE, WHY NOT? PLEASE GIVE AYATS. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 09/07/2011
 
DR. QAMAR ZAMAN WROTE: "SO ACTUALLY THERE IS NOTHING TO BE CALLED PREMARITAL SEX". IS THIS ASSERTION, ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, TRUE?!? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 16/07/2011
 
NARGIS WROTE: THE ZANI IS SOMEONE WHO DISTORTS THE QURANIQ WORD. IS THIS ASSERTION, ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, TRUE? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 18/07/2011
 
who is allah Question by: hm.zeeshan On 19/07/2011
 
Does aya 57/3 justify/give meaning that Allah is beyond time and space? Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 20/07/2011
 
Is it true that Moses prayed for Aaron and Aaron became prophet. Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 21/07/2011
 
ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, IS THE UTTERING OF ALLAHU AKBAR, ACCEPTABLE IN THE DEEN OF ALLAH? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 21/07/2011
 
Mummy of Pharon in Egypt is the same pharon who clashes with Moses. ? Is it conforms from Quran? Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 23/07/2011
 
CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION---ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF--AKBAR? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 23/07/2011
 
Dear brother Moazzam if someone wants to understand the Quran and he is studying it for the first time.How should he study it?How he should attempt to understand a particular episode of the Quran.Thank you very much... Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 29/07/2011
 
Sahibaan, Lanati ka salaam Kia Quran paak main Roh amr Rabbi ke ilawa Rooh amr Allah bhi likha hai? In dono main kia farq hai? Question by: Universal-Lanati From ARMENIA On 30/07/2011
 
Dear Dr.Qamar and members. Please explain 21/53-60. and also 6/76-80 Were those idols made of stones? Didn't they used to worship كَوْكَبًا,الْقَمَرَ,الشَّمْسَ Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 01/08/2011
 
Dear Sir, It is being preached and commonly understood that Quranic guidance is eternal and everlasting for mankind during all eras. Whether any verse of Quran support this version ? if so , please quote reference of said verse . Thanks. Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 02/08/2011
 
Dear Sir, As per verse No.20 of Sura Al-Furqan(25) All , " Mursaleen;s" ate food and walk about in streets........... Why "Mursaleens;s" came to Seyedina Ibrahim ( who had to go towards "Qoum-e-Loot" , 51/32) denied to eat food from Ibrahim ? Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 02/08/2011
 
Dear Member, According to my new understanding I have left namaz,roza,Hajj. etc.Now what should I do according to Quran. How can I become a good Momin wothout these rituals. Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 02/08/2011
 
WAS THE PROPHET WHO WAS GIVEN THE QURAN...THE LAST PROPHET? YES OR NO AND PROVE EITHER POSITION. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 05/08/2011
 
IS AL-QURAN THE LAST/FINAL REVELATION FROM ALLAH? YES OR NO AND PROVE EITHER POSITION. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 05/08/2011
 
Salaamun Alikum Dear Aastana Members Please forgive me if I offends the spirit of aastana as I am going to ask few question which seems critical to me. Question by: mmkhan20 From SAUDI ARABIA (JEDDAH) On 08/08/2011
 
Dear Aurangzaib sb, Please explain the meanings of verse 37 of sura 41 Thanks Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 19/08/2011
 
IS AASTANA BLOG DEVOTED TO PHILOSOPHICAL MATERIALISM AND RELIGIOUS HUMANISM AND NOT AL-ISLAM? I'M BEGINNING TO BELIEVE SO. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 19/08/2011
 
Dear Sir, Please explain the meanings of verse 37 of sura 41 Thanks Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 20/08/2011
 
TRUE OR FALSE? 4:82 Will they not then meditate on the Quran? And if it were from any other than Allah, they would have FOUND IN IT MANY A DISCREPANCY. 10:37 And this the Quran...THERE IS NO DOUBT IN IT, from the Lord of the worlds. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 20/08/2011
 
Dear Moazzam,Dr QZ as you say Quran should be understood according to grammar.I have a question:All the Arabic grammars were written by IRANIS.Is there no possibility they have corrupted it like Ahadith?Thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 22/08/2011
 
Dear Zul-Qarnain. (with Two noons). You have repeatedly asserted on this blog that Surah Al-fatehaa is not part of the Al-Kitaab (Al-Quraan). Hereby I am humbly requesting you to produce your proof. (Read more in comments) Question by: Iqbal kay shaheen From NAMIBIA (WALVIS BAY) On 23/08/2011
 
TO ALL WHO IS THE "YOU" MENTIONED IN THE FOLLOWING AYAT? 2:4 And who believe in that which has been revealed to YOU and that which was revealed before YOU and they are sure of the hereafter. Question by: PRIEST BOKMEI From UNITED STATES On 24/08/2011
 
Dear Moazzam and Dr Qamar sahib Is the Phrase ALFE SHAHR MURAKAB E TOUSIFI or MURAKKABE ADADI?And what does it mean?Thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 28/08/2011
 
Dear Dhulqurnain,Why Allah called Himself Al-Momin and Al-salaam in 59/23 Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 30/08/2011
 
Dear Dr. Q.Z sb. A questio as comments below. Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 30/08/2011
 
WHY ARE RACIAL SLURS TOWARD AFRICAN AMERICANS ACCEPTABLE AT AASTANA BLOG? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 31/08/2011
 
CHALLENGE! CHALLENGE! CHALENGE! CAN ANYONE NAME ONE PROPHET, ALONG WITH, AND SINCE THE DEATH OF THE PROPHET REFERRED TO AS MUHAMMAD? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 06/09/2011
 
NARGIS/AASTANA BLOG, PLEASE ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS CONCERNING AYATS 3:21 AND 33:40 Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 08/09/2011
 
NARGIS, MOAZZAM, WASEEMAMEER, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. GIVE US YOUR EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. NO MORE CONVOLUTED DISCOURSES. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 13/09/2011
 
WASEEMAMEER, WHAT IS THE TRUE MEANING OF 51:56? WHAT IS THE HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DHULQARNAIN AND AASTANA THAT NO WAY CAN THEY GATHER ON ONE PLATFORM? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 15/09/2011
 
Dear Dr.Qamar and members. Please explain the meaning of Moosa and Esa. At what paradigms ابواب they are at, and what meanings they give on those ابواب? Dear Dr.Sahab, your input will be highly appreciated. Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 16/09/2011
 
Is the Quran preaching BELIEVES ? I.E does it state anything in order to achieve unconfirmed belief in its students? 2) does it back up its claims with proofs, 3) HOW? Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 16/09/2011
 
NARGIS and MOAZZAM THERE HAS BEEN ALOT OF TALK ABOUT THE "GRAMMAR" RELATIVE TO AL-QURAN. MY QUESTION IS THIS, ISTHE GRAMMAR 100% ACCURATE? YES: EXPLAIN NO: EXPLAIN Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 17/09/2011
 
QAMAR, MOAZZAM, NARGIS, NAEEM, DOES QAMAR AND AASTANA BLOG BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING ASSERTIONS TO THE TRUTH? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 27/09/2011
 
Mr. Aurangzaib: Who is responsible for detracking me and many others who left Ramazan Fasting, Namaz especially after reading your booklet"tahqeeq namaz o salat"at Aastana? are you not an instable personality as per your shufling record?? Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 27/09/2011
 
NARGIS, MOAZZAM, WAQAR, NAEEM, ET ALL IS WAHY OR EXTRINSIC OR INTRINSIC? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 29/09/2011
 
MOAZZAM, NARGIS, NAEEM, MUBASHIR, WAQAR, YOU PEOPLE CANNOT POSSIBLY BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS....OR ARE YOU? PLEASE EXPLAIN! Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 30/09/2011
 
PEACE TO ALL, ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF...A GOD" (I'M NOT REFERRING TO ALLAH, BUT THE TERM GOD IN GENERAL )? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 02/10/2011
 
WHICH TAKES PRIORITY--TASREEF OVER GRAMMAR OR GRAMMAR OVER TASREEF? PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 03/10/2011
 
What is the position of Athiest in Quran? Will Athiesm be practiced/ let exist in the Quranic Society? What difference it will make if oneself is Athiest? Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 05/10/2011
 
PEACE TO ALL, MOAZZAM ASKS: CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROPHET AND MESSENGER PROPHET, NABI AND NABI RASOOL? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 07/10/2011
 
what the harm if someone perform rituals. Will Allah ask him why you did rituals. If one perform rituals and other dont then whats the difference they make on society. Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 09/10/2011
 
PEACE TO ALL, DOES AASTANA BLOG REPRESENT: DEEN AL-ISLAM OR... DEISM. DHULQARNAIN- Question by: ARCHILOCUS From UNITED STATES On 15/10/2011
 
Dear Sir, Please explain meanings of 27/42 to 44 Thanx Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 30/11/2011
 
Dear sir, Please put some light on the death of Hazrat Hussain according to the history. and Dr sahib, we all are waiting for complete quranic translation Question by: matifsaeed From PAKISTAN (LAHORE) On 30/11/2011
 
PEACE NARGIS AND MOAZZAM. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THIS MAJOR CONTRADICTION: TELL US CLEARLY, IS YOUR POSITION STATEMENT "A" OR STATEMENT "B"? DHULQARNAIN- Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 01/12/2011
 
PEACE TO ALL, TO MY QUESTION: DO THE MALAIKA DO WRONG/EVIL? NAEEM SHEIKH ANSWERED: YES, SEE 2:34 IS HE CORRECT? DHULQARNAIN: Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 15/12/2011
 
WHY QURANISTS ARE DIVIDED LIKE RELIGIOUS MULLAHS IF THEY CLAIM THE RIGHTEOUS ONES ??? Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 01/02/2012
 
What do you guys think - Why some children around the world are born with defects like, blindness, handicapped, infected with acute diseases (HIV) etc., Why do they suffer their life for no fault of their own? Why does God do this them? Question by: sameermoopa From INDIA On 05/04/2012
 
Dear Members: Pls share ur thought on:'What is the 'purpose' of our existence?' Quran says 'And I didn't create the jinn and mankind except to do my IBADATH'(51:56). If this is the purpose, what does IBADATH mean here? Why God wants our Ibadath? Question by: sameermoopa From INDIA On 09/04/2012
 
can some one enlighten us about the real concept of SALAWATULLAH ALA NABI.Thanks. Question by: naeem sheikh From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 20/04/2012
 
Assaam,iam Nasir(India)iam understanding salah by your explanation tell me about vazu in surah maaida Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 26/04/2012
 
thank you a better answer that Salath is not namaz so what is reality of namaz how this exist Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 28/04/2012
 
assalam,was Allah speak with insan directly ? Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 04/05/2012
 
agar zina najayij talluq nahi tho najayij talluq ke baare me quran me kya hai? Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 15/05/2012
 
dea members. If someone do misdeeds(do wrong things) than he repent and ask toba, will he still have to suffer his misdeeds in this life. Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 10/06/2012
 
respected qamar sir, what about here after life(Akhirath) in sight of quran? Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 17/06/2012
 
Respected Dr Zaman. I am reading your translation of the Quran with great interest and I thank you for your efforts. I would like to understand the concept of Akhirat in light of the Quran. Salaam. Question by: Riaz From UNITED KINGDOM (LONDON) On 11/08/2012
 
If soam is not traditional "Roza" then why the later part of ayat relating to soam says that the women should complete the count after finishing with their menses? Question by: ansasausam From UNITED STATES (FLUSHING) On 27/10/2012
 
What is Shetan, can shetan affects the desire of Momin? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 11/12/2012
 
What "the Aastana research forum says about the Atheists ??? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 13/12/2012
 
What is the true sense of Duaa' mentioned at many places in Quran and been used as an effective tool in almost all religions? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 13/12/2012
 
salaam Dr sahib.pls explain the meaning of نسخ ? and 2:104? Question by: saidalavi ansari From INDIA (KERALA) On 17/12/2012
 
Salam Dr sahib pls Explain verse 2/106 مَا ننسخ من آية Question by: saidalavi ansari From INDIA (KERALA) On 19/12/2012
 
ABOUT EISA "death/up lifting to heaven" Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 01/04/2013
 
Some body asked about the meaning of سِقَايَةَ الْحَاجِّ وَعِمَارَةَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ . Here it is answer to the question asked. Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 23/04/2013
 
Some body asked that, how does it affect "the understanding of qura'an" as well practical life of people if Eisa borne with OR with out father???????? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 25/04/2013
 
Dr sahib salam pls pls pls explain 2:233 والوالدات يرضعن أولادهن.......................... Question by: saidalavi ansari From INDIA (KERALA) On 01/05/2013
 
who is muthllakth المطلَّقات Question by: saidalavi ansari From INDIA (KERALA) On 01/05/2013
 
Hijab Jilbaab/ by Moazzam Islam Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 18/06/2013
 
Respected Dr, Qamar Zaman sb some one says mostly the trad trans is what is written in Quran but what U r bringing is new verbal meanings of Words,why should we choose those words as Quran is Mubin and it explains itself.e.g what U describe of halal. Question by: shaista From PAKISTAN (LAHORE) On 08/12/2013
 
Kindly send Dr. Qamar Zaman's US phone number to me at AsarSyed@gmail.com Question by: Asarulislam From UNITED STATES (LOS ANGELES) On 12/06/2014
 
I wrote many times in the form on the site, but no one answers. So, I have a translation of the book "THE TRUTH ABOUT SALAT. Dr. Qamar Zaman" to Russian. Do you want to put it on the site? Question by: onlyquran01 From RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUSSIA) On 04/07/2014
 
Respected Aastana team, please could you kindly point me to the surah and ayat number of the two ayats referenced on page 9 & 10 of Sarchashma Hidayat sirf Al Quran? Thanks in advance for your assistance. Question by: Riaz From UNITED KINGDOM (LONDON) On 27/12/2014
 
Aoa, dear aastana members can you kindly translate surah ikhlaas exposing its main theme Question by: Abdul Hadi Saqib From PAKISTAN (LAHORE) On 14/03/2015
 
مسلمانوں کی نمازوں کے زرتشتی ماخظ Dowanload Question by: Adnan From PAKISTAN On 17/04/2015
 
i have asked two questions please Dr Q z sab post my 2nd question in this blog too. if it is not possible to post it here. then please reply to me via email. as i am really confused about the soum. why ghulam ahmed perwez sab couldn't explain? Question by: kanju swat From UNITED KINGDOM (LONDON) On 11/11/2015
 
aap jo quran ki wazahat karte hein 'kia aap khuda(god) per yaqeen(belief) rakhte hein? oor han(yes)! to aap ka aqeda(belief) kia hai? Question by: sufyanarif From PAKISTAN On 21/12/2015
 
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