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PEACE TO ALL,  
 
MOAZZAM ASKS: CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROPHET AND MESSENGER PROPHET, NABI AND NABI RASOOL?
Add Your Comments  Question by: DHULQARNAIN On 07 October 2011
Comments by: ARCHILOCUS On 07 October 2011Report Abuse
Peace Moazzam,  
 
***MOAZZAM: My dear; can you explain the difference between prophet , messenger prophets, Nabi and Nabi rasool.***  
 
According to Al-Quran the following are distinctions:  
 
1. Each, definitively, is a separate category; this must be recognized and accepted; they are not interchangeable.  
 
a) The Prophets i.e. Ibrahim, Dawood, Ishaq, Yaqoub.  
 
b) The Messenger-Prophets i.e. “Muhammad”, Musa, Isa, Ismael.  
 
c) The Messengers i.e. angels, people (including prophets); scripture.  
 
d) Messengers as non-human/non-angel created things/ayats: i.e. sun, moon, animals, atoms.  
 
So while there are four categories of messengers only one is a messenger-PROPHET, category.  
 
Btw, Allah does not state—Nabi-rasool, He states Rasool-nabi.  
 
"Messenger prophet and not, prophet messenger: The first example for messenger prophet comes from 7:157, and 7:158 where God described the Prophet Muhammed as, "the messenger the prophet" and not as "the prophet the messenger," not a coincidence, [God does not do coincidences]. The reason is that not every messenger is a prophet and therefore the word 'prophet' is used to further define and clarify the description of that messenger. However when God speaks of a prophet God does not need to put the word messenger after (prophet) since it is understood that every prophet is also a messenger."  
 
http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/prophet_and_messenger_(P1161).html  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 

Comments by: moazzam On 09 October 2011
Dear Brother Dhulqarnain! DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NABI AND RASOOL  
 
Read the following point to comprehend the difference between NABI and RASOOL.  
1) this is true that, every NABI is RASOOL as well, but every RASOOL is not NABI.  
2) The Rasoolun Nabiya, is the correct order not the Nabiyun Rasool.  
Nabi and Rasool both of them guide the man kind by Alkitab/Alquran/Alrooh/rooh alqudus(tauraat,injeel,quran,zaboor)  
 
لَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا رُسُلَنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَأَنزَلْنَا مَعَهُمُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْمِيزَانَ لِيَقُومَ النَّاسُ بِالْقِسْطِ وَأَنزَلْنَا الْحَدِيدَ فِيهِ بَأْسٌ شَدِيدٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَلِيَعْلَمَ اللَّهُ مَن يَنصُرُهُ وَرُسُلَهُ بِالْغَيْبِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ قَوِيٌّ عَزِيزٌ57/25  
 
 
3) NABI = The rasool(messenger) having state/ruling power, also the authority to appoint commanders/departmental heads in his state, see verse 2/246,5/20  
 
أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الْمَلَإِ مِن بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ مِن بَعْدِ مُوسَى إِذْ قَالُواْ لِنَبِيٍّ لَّهُمُ ابْعَثْ لَنَا مَلِكًا نُّقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ قَالَ َلعَسَيْتُمْ  
إِن كُتِبَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْقِتَالُ أَلاَّ تُقَاتِلُواْ قَالُواْ وَمَا لَنَا أَلاَّ نُقَاتِلَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ وَقَدْ أُخْرِجْنَا مِن دِيَارِنَا وَأَبْنَآئِنَا فَلَمَّا كُتِبَ عَلَيْهِمُ الْقِتَالُ تَوَلَّوْاْ إِلاَّ قَلِيلاً مِّنْهُمْ وَاللّهُ عَلِيمٌ بِالظَّالِمِينَ  
Hast thou not Turned thy vision to the Chiefs of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Moses? they said to a prophet (That was) among them: "Appoint for us a king, that we May fight in the cause of Allah." He said: "Is it not possible, if ye were commanded to fight, that that ye will not fight?" They said: "How could we refuse to fight in the cause of Allah, seeing that we were turned out of our homes and our families?" but when they were commanded to fight, they turned back, except a small band among them. But Allah Has full knowledge of those who do wrong.  
5/20  
وَإِذْ قَالَ مُوسَى لِقَوْمِهِ يَا قَوْمِ اذْكُرُواْ نِعْمَةَ اللّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ إِذْ جَعَلَ فِيكُمْ أَنبِيَاءَ وَجَعَلَكُم مُّلُوكًا وَآتَاكُم مَّا لَمْ يُؤْتِ أَحَدًا مِّنَ الْعَالَمِينَ  
you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples  
 
 
4) In Alquran we found at all places that people use to have QATAL AL AMBIYA , they fight against the state power of AMBIYA,not Rasools.Therefore, nabi instigate momineen for Jihad/fighting the verse 66/9,8/65-679/73  
Also Nabi legislate laws for his society from the eternal values given in Alkitab see the verses 66/12,60/2,33/59,33/1-2,33/50  
 
قتل = Kill ,quarrel ,wrangle  
الْقِتَالُ = Fighting,Killing.  
 
 
In 3:81 God defined the exact duty of the Prophet (Nabi) and also the duty of the Messenger (Rasoul)  
3/81  
وَإِذْ أَخَذَ اللّهُ مِيثَاقَ النَّبِيِّيْنَ لَمَا آتَيْتُكُم مِّن كِتَابٍ وَحِكْمَةٍ ثُمَّ جَاءَكُمْ رَسُولٌ مُّصَدِّقٌ لِّمَا مَعَكُمْ لَتُؤْمِنُنَّ بِهِ وَلَتَنصُرُنَّهُ قَالَ أَأَقْرَرْتُمْ وَأَخَذْتُمْ عَلَى ذَلِكُمْ إِصْرِي قَالُواْ أَقْرَرْنَا قَالَ فَاشْهَدُواْ وَأَنَاْ مَعَكُم مِّنَ الشَّاهِدِينَ  
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"When Allah made (His) covenant with the النَّبِيِّيْنَ (nabiyyin) , (He said): Behold that which I have given you of the scripture and knowledge. And afterward there will come unto you a رَسُولٌ messenger confirming that which ye possess. Ye shall لَتُؤْمِنُنَّ him and ye shall help him. He said: Do ye agree, and will ye take up My burden (which I lay upon you)in this (matter)? They answered: We agree. He said: Then bear witness. I will be a witness with you."  
2/213  
كَانَ النَّاسُ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً فَبَعَثَ اللّهُ النَّبِيِّينَ مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ وَأَنزَلَ مَعَهُمُ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ لِيَحْكُمَ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ فِيمَا اخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ  
"The people used to be one community when God sent the prophets as bearers of good news, as well as warmers. He sent down with them the scripture, bearing the truth, to judge among the people in their disputes" 2:213  
In other words all Ambiya are messengers, but not all رَسُولٌ messengers are Ambiya.  
 
3/79  
مَا كَانَ لِبَشَرٍ أَن يُؤْتِيَهُ اللّهُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحُكْمَ وَالنُّبُوَّةَ ثُمَّ يَقُولَ لِلنَّاسِ كُونُواْ عِبَادًا لِّي مِن دُونِ اللّهِ وَلَـكِن كُونُواْ رَبَّانِيِّينَ بِمَا كُنتُمْ تُعَلِّمُونَ الْكِتَابَ وَبِمَا كُنتُمْ تَدْرُسُونَ  
"Never would a human being whom God blessed with the scripture and prophet hood say to the people, "Idolize me beside God." Instead, (he would say), "Devote yourselves absolutely to your Lord alone," according to the scripture you preach and the teachings you learn." 3:79  
 
6/89  
أُوْلَـئِكَ الَّذِينَ آتَيْنَاهُمُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحُكْمَ وَالنُّبُوَّةَ فَإِن يَكْفُرْ بِهَا هَـؤُلاَءِ فَقَدْ وَكَّلْنَا بِهَا قَوْمًا لَّيْسُواْ بِهَا بِكَافِرِينَ  
"Those were the ones to whom we have given the scripture, wisdom, and prophet hood. If these people disbelieve, we will substitute others in their place, and the new people will not be disbelievers." 6:89  
 
29/27  
وَوَهَبْنَا لَهُ إِسْحَقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي ذُرِّيَّتِهِ النُّبُوَّةَ وَالْكِتَابَ وَآتَيْنَاهُ أَجْرَهُ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَإِنَّهُ فِي الْآخِرَةِ لَمِنَ الصَّالِحِينَ  
"We granted him Isaac and Jacob, we assigned to his descendants prophet hood and the scriptures, we endowed him with his due recompense in this life, and in the Hereafter he will surely be with the righteous." 29:27  
 
45/16  
وَلَقَدْ آتَيْنَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحُكْمَ وَالنُّبُوَّةَ وَرَزَقْنَاهُم مِّنَ الطَّيِّبَاتِ وَفَضَّلْنَاهُمْ عَلَى الْعَالَمِينَ  
"We have given the Children of Israel the scripture, wisdom, and prophet hood, and provided them with good provisions; we bestowed upon them more blessings than any other people." 45:16  
57/26  
وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحًا وَإِبْرَاهِيمَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي ذُرِّيَّتِهِمَا النُّبُوَّةَ وَالْكِتَابَ فَمِنْهُم مُّهْتَدٍ وَكَثِيرٌ مِّنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ  
"We sent Noah and Abraham, and we granted their descendants prophet hood and the scripture. Some of them were guided, while many were wicked." 57:26  
 
Messenger prophet and not, prophet messenger:  
7/157  
الَّذِينَ يَتَّبِعُونَ الرَّسُولَ النَّبِيَّ الْأُمِّيَّ الَّذِي يَجِدُونَهُ مَكْتُوبًا عِندَهُمْ فِي التَّوْرَاةِ وَالْإِنْجِيلِ يَأْمُرُهُم بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَاهُمْ عَنِ الْمُنكَرِ وَيُحِلُّ لَهُمُ الطَّيِّبَاتِ وَيُحَرِّمُ عَلَيْهِمُ الْخَبَآئِثَ وَيَضَعُ عَنْهُمْ إِصْرَهُمْ وَالْأَغْلاَلَ الَّتِي كَانَتْ عَلَيْهِمْ فَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ بِهِ وَعَزَّرُوهُ وَنَصَرُوهُ وَاتَّبَعُواْ النُّورَ الَّذِي أُنزِلَ مَعَهُ أُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ  
7/158  
قُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللّهِ إِلَيْكُمْ جَمِيعًا الَّذِي لَهُ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ لاَ إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ يُحْيِـي وَيُمِيتُ فَآمِنُواْ بِاللّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ النَّبِيِّ الْأُمِّيِّ الَّذِي يُؤْمِنُ بِاللّهِ وَكَلِمَاتِهِ وَاتَّبِعُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَهْتَدُونَ  
 
The first example for messenger prophet comes from 7:157, and 7:158 where God described the Prophet Muhammed as, "the messenger the prophet"  
…….  
"..........therefore you shall believe in God and His messenger, the gentile prophet, who believes in God and His words. Follow him, that you may be guided." 7:158  
 
 
Moses, the messenger prophet:  
In 19:51, Moses was described by God as a messenger prophet (Rasoulan Nabyya), and not as a prophet messenger (Nabyyan Rasoula).  
Ismail, the messenger prophet:  
In 19:54, Ismail is described with the same words, "Rasoulan Nabyyan".  
 
The reason is that, not every Rasoul (Messenger) is a Nabi (Prophet), but every Prophet (Nabi) is a Messenger (Rasoul), so God defined the word Rasoul by adding to it "Nabyya". In other words, Ismail was a messenger and also a prophet. God does not  
 
 
Other examples are found in the Quran to clarify this description:  
Human being messenger:  
"Am I more than a human messenger (Basharan Rasoula)" 17:93  
 
Notice, " a human messenger" and not "a messenger human".  
 
The reason is that not every Bashar (human) is a Rasoul (messenger) while every Rasoul (messenger) from among us is a Bashar (human).  
 
17:94, has the same expression again, human messenger (Basharan Rasoula), not (Rasoulan Bashara)  
 
Angel messenger:  
" ...... we would have sent to them from the sky an angel messenger (Malakan Rasoula)" 17:95  
Notice, "an angel messenger" and not "a messenger angel (Rasoulan Malaka). Here the reason is that not every angel is a messenger.  
Saint prophet:  
 
In 19:41, God described Abraham as "a Siddiqqan Nabyya (Saint Prophet)" and not as a Nabyyan Siddiqqan, (Prophet Saint). The reason is that not every Siddiq (Saint ) is a prophet, while every prophet is a siddiq.  
In 19:56, God described the prophet Idris the same way, as a Siddiqqan Nabyya (Saint prophet  
 
"Messenger nor a prophet":  
Perhaps one of the strongest indications in the Quran that the words prophet and messenger do not have the same meaning, is found in the following verse:  
"We did not send before you any messenger nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. God then nullifies what the devil has done. God perfects His revelations. God is Omniscient, Most Wise." 22:52  
 
If the words prophet and messenger had the same meaning God would not be saying "messenger nor a prophet", would He? Had the two words had exactly the same meaning, then mentioning one of them would have been sufficient.  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 09 October 2011Report Abuse
Peace Moazzam,  
 
Thank you for a clearly stated repsonse; much appreciated.  
 
***MOAZZAM: "Messenger nor a prophet": If the words prophet and messenger had the same meaning God would not be saying "messenger nor a prophet", would He? Had the two words had exactly the same meaning, then mentioning one of them would have been sufficient. Perhaps one of the strongest indications in the Quran that the words prophet and messenger do not have the same meaning, is found in the following verse: ***  
 
22:52 "We did not send before you any messenger nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. God then nullifies what the devil has done. God perfects His revelations. God is Omniscient, Most Wise."  
 
You make my point and we agree completely. Messenger is distinct, prophet is distinct, and so is—messenger-prophet distinct. Not all prophets or messengers carried the title messenger-prophet.  
 
7:157 Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel.  
 
IMPORTANT POINT: You can now see why Nargis’s/Aastanablog’s claim about ongoing prophets cannot be correct, because while messengers continue to exist the class of messenger-PROPHETS do not. There have been no prophets of any kind since the last one—“Muhammad”. Can you point to a prophet today or one at the time of "Muhammad" or since his death and beyond any shadow of a doubt prove it? Can you, on the other hand, point to messengers fro Allah? Yes, yourself, because you are Quran alone/The Message, hence, you are carrying a/the message.  
 
 
***MOAZZAM: Read the following point to comprehend the difference between NABI and RASOOL. 1) this is true that, every NABI is RASOOL as well, but every RASOOL is not NABI. 2) The Rasoolun Nabiya, is the correct order not the Nabiyun Rasool. ***  
 
Agreed.  
 
IMPORTANT POINT: You can now see why Nargis’s/Aastanablog’s claim about ongoing prophets cannot be correct, because while messengers continue to exist the class of messenger-PROPHETS do not.  
 
MOAZZAM: Nabi and Rasool both of them guide the man kind by Alkitab/Alquran/Alrooh/rooh alqudus(tauraat,injeel,quran,zaboor)  
 
57:25 Certainly We sent Our messengers with clear arguments, and sent down with them the Book and the measure, that men may conduct themselves with equity. And We sent down iron, wherein is great violence and advantages to men, and that Allah may know who helps Him and His messengers, unseen. Surely Allah is Strong, Mighty.  
 
You are not correct here. Prophets do not guide, but messengers guide, because they are delivering the Message. IT IS THE MESSAGE THAT IS GUIDING—NOT the individual. This is the error which the mullahs/Ritualists are making. They claim that the person of Muhammad, the Prophet, is guiding along with Allah. This is shirk.  
 
IMPORTANT POINT: Whenever you see messenger you must begin to read—Message. There is no messenger without a message. No Message…no messenger. The Message are the Words of Allah.  
 
 
***3)MOAZZAM: NABI = The rasool(messenger) having state/ruling power, also the authority to appoint commanders/departmental heads in his state, see verse 2/246,5/20***  
 
While you cited ayat 2:246, you didn’t cite ayat 2:247 which gives tasreef in regard to appoints kings.  
 
2:246-247 Hast thou not thought of the leaders of the Children of Israel after Moses? When they said to A PROPHET (singular not plural)of theirs: Raise up for us a king, that we may fight in the way of Allah. He said: May it not be that you will not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in Allah’s way and we have indeed been deprived of our homes and our children? But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them. And Allah is Knower of the wrongdoers. *And their prophet said to them: SURELY ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU (Allah appointed Saul king, not that prophet). They said: How can he have kingdom over us while we have a greater right to kingdom than he, and he has not been granted abundance of wealth? He said: SURELY ALLAH HAS CHOSEN HIM ABOVE YOU, and has increased him abundantly in knowledge and physique. And Allah grants His kingdom to whom He pleases. And Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.  
 
IMPORTANT POINT: Allah chose and appointed the king not a prophet.  
 
5:20 And when Moses said to his people: O my people, remember the favour of ALLLAH to you WHEN HE RAISED PROPHETS AND MADE YOU KINGS and gave you what He gave not to any other of the nations.  
 
IMPORTANT POINT: Again, it is Allah who who raises BOTH prophets and kings. Prophets do not appoint other prophets nor do they appoint kings.  
 
I think we agreed on much and have made good progress. I think it should be more clear now why there were no prophets since "Muhammad", bit why messengers continue to exist since his death;  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but A MESSENGER — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
44:5-6 A command from Us — truly We are ever sending MESSENGERS —* A mercy from thy Lord — truly He is the Hearing, the Knowing,  
 
Ever sending messengers--not ever sending prophets.  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: bob On 09 October 2011Report Abuse
Ever sending messengers--not ever sending prophets. Dhulqarnain  
 
Yes, ever sending messengers, because messengers are able to become Nabis. Nabi is a head of the state or head of a department. It is not like, if you are a Rusool, then you spontaneously are a Nabi; it is to be worked for.  
 
Messengers don’t need a state or empire in order to deliver a message they need people whom the message can reach out to. But a Nabi need a state in order to implement the message and the state need communities as a support.  
 
The message must reach the communities at every time, and then it is their determinations who will decide whether they want to comply with the message.  
 
The Quran is ordering commands in favor of human rights and equality, which mean that these orders have to be implemented and administrated. The head of this Quraniq society is called Nabi.  
 
He is simply the one who is in charge of the state, and the one who put The Quraniq orders and values into operation - as commanded by Allah.  
 
A Rusool who is not a Nabi, is delivering a message, While a Nabi who have to be a Rusool, is implementing the message through the laws, systems and authorities it in the society.  
 
Rusool--> Delivers a message  
 
Nabi--> implementer of the message
 
 
A Nabi’s attributes are given in the Quran.

Comments by: Waqar On 09 October 2011Report Abuse
Dear Brothers,  
Is Muhammad described as a Nabi in the Quran? It seems following verses describing Muhammad as a Rasool, not Nabi.  
 
3:144 Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many Were the messenger that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.  
 
33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.  
 
47:2 But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- He will remove from them their ills and improve their condition.  
 
48:29 Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds  
forgiveness, and a great Reward.  
 
 
Regards,  
Waqar

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 09 October 2011Report Abuse
Peace Bob,  
 
Ever sending messengers--not ever sending prophets. Dhulqarnain  
 
***BOB: Yes, ever sending messengers, because messengers are able to become Nabis. Nabi is a head of the state or head of a department. It is not like, if you are a Rusool, then you spontaneously are a Nabi; it is to be worked for ***  
 
Then you, Moazzam, Mubashir, Waqar,naeem, Qamar, for examples, potentially, can become prophets…is this what you’re asserting? Who gets to certify a messenger as a prophet? Can a messenger, if he/she feels, certify him/herself as a prophet? How does this work?  
 
***BOB: But a Nabi need a state in order to implement the message and the state need communities as a support.***  
 
This is your conjecture, because nowhere has Allah stated that His nabis “needed a state”?? Again, nabis were sent to communities, because people form communities; that’s what people do.  
 
***The Quran is ordering commands in favor of human rights and equality, which mean that these orders have to be implemented and administrated.***  
 
Agreed..for the most part.  
 
***The head of this Quraniq society is called Nabi. He is simply the one who is in charge of the state.***  
 
What states were Hud, Shuaib, Ishaq, Ismael, Isa, for examples, in charge of/head of? You have no Al-Quranic proof for this. Where does Allah state that prophets are heads of states? This is simply conjecture on your part, Bob. Please recognize this.  
 
***The message must reach the communities at every time, and then it is their determinations who will decide whether they want to comply with the message.***  
 
Agreed.  
 
***BOB: A Rusool who is not a Nabi, is delivering a message, While a Nabi who have to be a Rusool, is implementing the message through the laws, systems and authorities it in the society. Rusool--> Delivers a message Nabi--> implementer of the message A Nabi’s attributes are given in the Quran.***  
 
I cannot make sense of what you’re trying to say here, a bit convoluted to me.  
 
The following are the categories for messengers:  
 
a) The Prophets i.e. Ibrahim, Dawood, Ishaq, Yaqoub.  
 
b) The Messenger-Prophets i.e. “Muhammad”, Musa, Isa, Ismael.  
 
c) The Messengers i.e. angels, people (including prophets); scripture.  
 
d) Messengers as non-human/non-angel created things/ayats: i.e. sun, moon, animals, atoms.  
 
So while there are four categories of messengers only one is a messenger-PROPHET category.  
 
There are no messengers today or since the death of “Muhammad” who carry along with the title messenger the tilte Prophet/Nabi. There are no more messenger-prophets. If you wish to claim tjhat they are, then you must prove this by identifying one by name so that his claim of being prophet can be scrutinized for authenticity.  
 
I’ll cut to the chase and ask you what I asked Nargis:  
 
Can you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, point to/name a prophet at the time of “Muhammad” or one since his death…anywhere in the world? Unless you can do this, then what you’re offering is simply your opinion/conjecture which is not truth. If nabis/prophets are heads of state, then you should be able to name many at the time of “Muhammad” and certainly since his death.  
 
Looking forward to your reply.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 
 

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 09 October 2011Report Abuse
Waqar,  
 
***WAQAR: Is Muhammad described as a Nabi in the Quran? It seems following verses describing Muhammad as a Rasool, not Nabi.***  
 
No problem.  
 
Allah defines "Muhammad as a prophet:  
 
3:68 Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim are those who followed him and THIS PROPHET and those who believe and Allah is the guardian of the believers.  
 
Allah defines "Muhammad as a messenger:  
 
3:144 Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many Were the messenger that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.  
 
Allah defines him as a messenger-prophet:  
 
7:157 Those who follow the Messenger-PROPHET, the Ummi, whom they find mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel. He enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and prohibits for them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were on them. So those who believe in him and honour him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him — these are the successful.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 10 October 2011Report Abuse
Dear All, i think two people do not need introduction/claims a Body builder and a Leader.  
 
Note : It doesnt make any difference if a mosquito claims to be a body builder, or someone denying a Leader...show alwayz goes on. Just thinking out loud please feel free to disagree...  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 10 October 2011Report Abuse
Mubashir,  
 
Please don't contaminate the thread/discussion with nonsensical quips.  
 
If you cannot contribute in a meaningful manner, then simply pass.  
 
Thanks.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 10 October 2011Report Abuse
Dear Dhulqarnain, i think it was too loud for you...anywayz your wish my command...please continue  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: moazzam On 10 October 2011
Dhulqarnain: While you cited ayat 2:246, you didn’t cite ayat 2:247 which gives tasreef in regard to appoints kings.  
 
2:246-247 Hast thou not thought of the leaders of the Children of Israel after Moses? When they said to A PROPHET (singular not plural)of theirs: Raise up for us a king, that we may fight in the way of Allah. He said: May it not be that you will not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in Allah’s way and we have indeed been deprived of our homes and our children? But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them. And Allah is Knower of the wrongdoers. *And their prophet said to them: SURELY ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU (Allah appointed Saul king, not that prophet). They said: How can he have kingdom over us while we have a greater right to kingdom than he, and he has not been granted abundance of wealth? He said: SURELY ALLAH HAS CHOSEN HIM ABOVE YOU, and has increased him abundantly in knowledge and physique. And Allah grants His kingdom to whom He pleases. And Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.  
IMPORTANT POINT: Allah chose and appointed the king not a prophet.  
 
MOAZZAM: 1) It is clear in verse 2/246 that people demanding Commander directly from NABI, to fight under his command against JALOOT.Definitly Nabi will select the commander according to the criteria given by Allah (as per Allah’s will),therefore any action done by Rasool/Nabi according to the message/guidance written in Alkitab or by the laws of nature will definitely be referred to ALLAH, see the verse 76/30,2/102,7/58,10/100,35/32,64/11,6/111  
76/30 وَمَا تَشَاؤُونَ إِلَّا أَن يَشَاءَ اللَّهُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا  
But ye will not, except as Allah wills; for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom.  
Moreover , concentrate at the last part of the same verse 246, surely Allah has chosen him above you, and HAS INCREASED HIM ABUNDANTLY IN KNOWLEDGE AND PHYSIQUE. And Allah grants His kingdom TO WHOM HE PLEASES.  
Here the Allah's criteria for selection of commander has been described, mind; Taloot came up to that criteria, therefore been selected for commander.  
2) Remember allah never acts/intervene directly with the people,rather, through the media(Rasool/nabi) see the verse 10/25 وَاللّهُ يَدْعُو إِلَى دَارِ السَّلاَمِ وَيَهْدِي مَن يَشَاءُ إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ  
But Allah doth call to the Home of Peace: He doth guide whom He please to a way that is straight.  
 
3) There are many examples in Quran that, people never asked directly from Nabi/Rasool ,rather, they asked Allah through their nabi/rasool as given in following.  
2/61 وَإِذْ قُلْتُمْ يَا مُوسَى لَن نَّصْبِرَ عَلَى طَعَامٍ وَّاحِدٍ فَادْعُ لَنَا رَبَّكَ يُخْرِجْ لَنَا مِمَّا تُنْبِتُ الأَرْضُ  
"O Moses! we cannot endure one kind of food (always); so beseech thy Lord for us to produce for us of what the earth growth  
2/68 قَالُواْ ادْعُ لَنَا رَبَّكَ يُبَيِّن لَّنَا مَا هِيَ  
They said: "Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us what (heifer) it is!  
7/134 قَالُواْ يَا مُوسَى ادْعُ لَنَا رَبَّكَ بِمَا عَهِدَ عِندَكَ لَئِن كَشَفْتَ عَنَّا الرِّجْزَ لَنُؤْمِنَنَّ لَكَ وَلَنُرْسِلَنَّ مَعَكَ بَنِي إِسْرَآئِيلَ  
Every time the penalty fell on them, they said: "O Moses! on your behalf call on thy Lord in virtue of his promise to thee: If thou wilt remove the penalty from us, we shall truly believe in thee, and we shall send away the Children of Israel with  

Comments by: Nargis On 10 October 2011Report Abuse
 
Allah defines "Muhammad as a prophet:  
 
3:68 Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim are those who followed him and THIS PROPHET and those who believe and Allah is the guardian of the believers. Dhulqarnain

Does "This prophet" always mean Mohammed?  
 
im posting this to show you the words and then you have to study the suras yourself.  
 
Orthodox translation 3:79,  
 
It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and AUTHORITY and prophethood and then he would say to the people,..  
 
Is the same authority mentioned along with a Rusool, can you refer to aya? What kind of authority is this?  
 
Read the context before this ayah and see authority is mentioned again  
 
6:89 Those are the ones to whom We gave the Scripture and AUTHORITY and prophethood.  
 
45:16 And We did certainly give the Children of Israel the Scripture and JUDGEMENT and prophethood,  
 
You have to read these ayas and their context, but you can get the hint from these words, AUTHORITY, JUDGMENT....  
 
Scripture, judgment, and authority,,,what does it have to do with proephethood and is it mentioned along with the Rusool?  
 
9:73 O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them.  
 
Here the Rusool is asked to fight against disbelievers,,,,is it normal that a messenger declare war or is it normal that a head of a state take such decision ?  
 
You have to read all of sura 4, 9 and 33 to see what the prophet is doing, what his tasks are and how they are different from a Rusool. He is NOT a foreteller like the orthodox crap is claiming.  
 
The difference between a Rusool and a Nabi is very clear from these surahs.

 

Comments by: Nargis On 10 October 2011Report Abuse
Note : It doesnt make any difference if a mosquito claims to be a body builder, or someone denying a Leader...show alwayz goes on. Just thinking out loud please feel free to disagree...  
 

Got it:P ... and I agree coz i feel free in not to disagree-


Comments by: Nargis On 10 October 2011Report Abuse
I asked Nargis: Can you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, point to/name a prophet at the time of “Muhammad” or one since his death…anywhere in the world? Unless you can do this, then what you’re offering is simply your opinion/conjecture which is not truth. If nabis/prophets are heads of state, then you should be able to name many at the time of “Muhammad” and certainly since his death.Dhulqarnain

First you must show us the death of Mohammed mentioned in the Quran, how did he die and when did he die?  
 
One HAVE TO, MUST study the Quran to understand what IT IS SAYING, and how THE QURAN DEFINE AND USE its words.  
 
I first have to study the Quran, comprehend it, and then I have to study the world history to see if a person fit the nabi profile...but I can’t be bothered, right now I’m only studying the Quran, and my mirror. Don’t have time to go through ancient world history to see if something fits the Quran or not, right now my priorities are to study the Quran ALONE, and understand its message...why? Because it is not dependent on world history in order to convey its message. IT is INDEPENDENT and SOLID. It did not say a nabi is this or that because it is waiting for a Nabi or Rusool to come after 500 years, and then its words will get a meaning.  
 
ANY Quranist MUST understand that the Quran is giving a message INDEPENDENTLY of your neighbor’s opinions, independent of meanings received from events 1000 years later or their bacon free minds views. Duh, it should be obvious  
 
It is SOLID enough to convey its message without others eeehh uhhh ihhh with their own views.  
 
The Quran is not talking about nabi because YOU can’t find one? But Abraham was a person with two sons even though there are NO physical evidences? And Maryam is the virgin mother of Eesa even though it is physically IMPOSSIBLE? There is NO evidence for Moses being in Egypt; still he is not an attribute but a specific person?  
Nope, that’s not how it works, the Quran tell you something, and it is telling you what it wants without your personal belief.  
 
Let’s say I can’t find a nabi for the last 1050 years and 6 hours, how does the tasks given to Nabi in the Quran, changed?  
 
What does it mean when 246 is clearly showing that people want the Nabi to point out a COMMANDER?  
Do you think this is about foretelling, the authority and judgment and scripture along with the prophet hood is actually about foretelling?  
 
Feel free to agree, I never mind!  
 
Ciao

 

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 11 October 2011Report Abuse
MOAZZAM AND NARGIS,  
 
***MOAZZAM: Here the Allah's criteria for selection of commander has been described, mind; Taloot came up to that criteria, therefore been selected for commander.***  
 
The question rmains:  
 
a) Did Allah appoint Taloot?  
 
or…  
 
b) Did the prophet appoint Taloot?  
 
It's the same as asking--did the prophets guide or did/does Allah guide?  
 
Anyway,  
 
Allah says:  
 
2:246-247 Hast thou not thought of the leaders of the Children of Israel after Moses? When they said to A PROPHET (singular not plural)of theirs: Raise up for us a king, that we may fight in the way of Allah. He said: May it not be that you will not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in Allah’s way and we have indeed been deprived of our homes and our children? But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them. And Allah is Knower of the wrongdoers. *And their prophet said to them: SURELY ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU (Allah appointed Saul king, not that prophet). They said: How can he have kingdom over us while we have a greater right to kingdom than he, and he has not been granted abundance of wealth? He said: SURELY ALLAH HAS CHOSEN HIM ABOVE YOU, and has increased him abundantly in knowledge and physique. And Allah grants His kingdom to whom He pleases. And Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.  
 
Again, ayats 2:246-7 tell us it was Allah who chose and appointed Taloot, not the prophet. Likewise, it is Allah who chose the prophets:  
 
2:213 (All) people are a single nation; so Allah RAISED prophets as bearers of good news and as warners, and He revealed with them the Book with truth, that it might judge between people in that in which they differed; and none but the very people who were given it differed about it after clear arguments had come to them, revolting among themselves; so Allah has guided by His will those who believe to the truth about which they differed and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right path.  
 
5:20 And when Musa said to his people: O my people! remember the favor of Allah upon you when He RAISED prophets among you and made you kings and gave you what He had not given to any other among the nations.  
The prophets and messenger did nothing on their own; they acted only with the authority of Allah. This is why there have been no prophets since “Muhammad”, because who can claim that Allah gave them authority to claim to be a prophet.  
 
I think we both agree that Allah chose and appointed TalooT and not the prophet. Am I correct in this assumption, Moazzam?  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 
 

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 11 October 2011Report Abuse
NARGIS,  
 
DHULQARNAIN CITED: 3:68 Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim are those who followed him and THIS PROPHET and those who believe and Allah is the guardian of the believers.  
 
***NARGIS: Does "This prophet" always mean Mohammed?***  
 
Let’s do it this way. Here is a mubeen ayat showing that “Muhammad” was a messenger as well as a prophet:  
 
33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the MESSENGER of Allah and the Seal of the PROPHETS. And Allah is ever Knower of all things.  
 
Ayat 33:40 should put an end to any further questions as to what “Muhammad”, was.  
 
***NARGIS: First you must show us the death of Mohammed mentioned in the Quran, how did he die and when did he die?***  
 
Come on, Nargis. What, do you think he's still alive on this plane of exaistence? You’re being silly now and you were doing so well, too. This is bordering on making light of Allah and His Quran/Laws. The following ayats should answer your question, though.  
 
MORTAL: Liable or subject to death: of or relating to humankind; human.  
 
BASHARA: human being.  
 
As to when, where, how, he died, well, that you will have to ask Allah.  
 
14:10 Their messengers said: Is there doubt about Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth? He invites you to forgive you your faults and to respite you till an appointed term. They said: You are nothing but MORTALS like us; you wish to turn us away from what our fathers used to worship; bring us therefore some clear authority.  
 
3:79 It is not meet for a MORTAL that Allah should give him the Book and the judgment and the prophethood, then he should say to men: Be my servants besides Allah’s; but (he would say): Be worshippers of the Lord because you teach the Book and because you study (it);  
 
Ayat 3:79 states that prophets are mortal.  
 
14:11 Their messengers said to them: We are nothing but MORTALS like yourselves, but Allah bestows (His) favors on whom He pleases of His servants, and it is not for us that we should bring you an authority except by Allah's permission; and on Allah should the believers rely.  
 
Ayat 14:11 states that messengers are mortals.  
 
3:144 And Muhammad is but a messenger — messengers have already passed away before him. If then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And he who turns back upon his heels will do no harm at all to Allah. And Allah will reward the grateful.  
 
Ayat 3:144 states that “Muhammad”, who is both a prophet and a messenger, likewise, must also be mortal, because he could “die or be killed”. So yes, “Muhammad”, at some point, died. Beyond that reality you must wait and ask Allah for the other details concerning his death.  
 
14:11 Their messengers said to them: We are nothing but mortals like yourselves, but Allah bestows (His) favors on whom He pleases of His servants, and it is not for us that we should bring you an authority except by Allah's permission; and on Allah should the believers rely.  
 
DHULQARNAIN asked Nargis: Can you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, point to/name a prophet at the time of “Muhammad” or one since his death…anywhere in the world? Unless you can do this, then what you’re offering is simply your opinion/conjecture which is not truth. If nabis/prophets are heads of state, then you should be able to name many at the time of “Muhammad” and certainly since his death.Dhulqarnain  
 
***NARGIS: One HAVE TO, MUST study the Quran to understand what IT IS SAYING, and how THE QURAN DEFINE AND USE its words. I first have to study the Quran, comprehend it, and then I have to study the world history to see if a person fit the nabi profile...but I can’t be bothered, right now I’m only studying the Quran, and my mirror. Don’t have time to go through ancient world history to see if something fits the Quran or not, right now my priorities are to study the Quran ALONE, and understand its message...why? Because it is not dependent on world history in order to convey its message. IT is INDEPENDENT and SOLID. It did not say a nabi is this or that because it is waiting for a Nabi or Rusool to come after 500 years, and then its words will get a meaning.  
 
Thank you for your admission that you cannot meet your burden of proof. Given you cannot do this, then you must withdraw your claim (prophets existed at time of "Muhammad"; since his death, and prophets are an ongoing class of people), otherwise, you are only giving your opinion/conjecture on the matter, which for some, is being accepted as the truth.  
 
 
***NARGIS: The Quran is not talking about nabi because YOU can’t find one?***  
 
I’m sorry, but I don’t understand your sentence; please rephrase, thanks.  
 
*** NARGIS: And Maryam is the virgin mother of Eesa even though it is physically IMPOSSIBLE?***  
 
I agree and Al-Quran refutes any such notion as a virgin birth.  
 
*** NARGIS: There is NO evidence for Moses being in Egypt; still he is not an attribute but a specific person?***  
 
How can an attribute have wives and children, which Musa did?  
 
***NARGIS: Let’s say I can’t find a nabi for the last 1050 years and 6 hours, how does the tasks given to Nabi in the Quran, changed?***  
 
The first thing is to accept that you cannot find any nabi since the death of the last one—“Muhammad”. Why won’t you accept this outstanding fact, Nargis?  
 
***NARGIS: What does it mean when 246 is clearly showing that people want the Nabi to point out a COMMANDER?***  
 
People can ask whatever the wish, however, Allah, in ayat 2:246, makes it crystal clear that it was Him who raised/appointed Saul king, not the prophet. The prophets never asked Allah to give them the power to appoint “heads of state/commanders”.  
 
2:247 And their prophet said to them: SURELY ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU (Allah appointed Saul king, not that prophet). They said: How can he have kingdom over us while we have a greater right to kingdom than he, and he has not been granted abundance of wealth? He said: SURELY ALLAH HAS CHOSEN HIM ABOVE YOU, and has increased him abundantly in knowledge and physique. And Allah grants His kingdom to whom He pleases. And Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.  
 
***NARGIS: Do you think this is about foretelling, the authority and judgment and scripture along with the prophet hood is actually about foretelling?***  
 
You are asking a different question now.  
 
Anyway, Let’s resolve a few things right now germane to the thread topic . Here are the facts:  
 
1. Messenger; prophet; messenger prophet, are distinct categories and not the same thing, hence, there is no interchanging prophet/nabi with messenger/ rasool.  
 
Do you still remain unaccepting of this?  
 
 
2. “Muhammad” was a messenger and a prophet, hence, a messenger-prophet.  
 
Do you accept this?  
 
 
3. No prophets since the last one—“Muhammad”, because none are named in Al-Quran or in any hadith books or secular/religious books. He was/is the Khatim Nabiyeen.  
 
Do you still remain unaccepting of this?  
 
 
4. Allah raised/appointed prophets and Saul.  
 
Do you still remain unaccepting of this?  
 
 
5. “Muhammad” was a mortal, hence, he died.  
 
Do you accept this?  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 

Comments by: moazzam On 11 October 2011
Dear Dhulqarnain! Please focus on my post " It is clear in verse 2/246 that people demanding Commander directly from NABI, to fight under his command against JALOOT.Definitly Nabi will select the commander according to the criteria given by Allah (as per Allah’s will),therefore any action done by Rasool/Nabi according to the message/guidance written in Alkitab or by the laws of nature will definitely be referred to ALLAH, see the verse 76/30,2/102,7/58,10/100,35/32,64/11,6/111  
76/30 وَمَا تَشَاؤُونَ إِلَّا أَن يَشَاءَ اللَّهُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا "  
It was known to the followers of Nabi (bani israil) that, every happening by the nabi/else-one ultimately referred to Allah, even then they asked to prophet for the appointment of their commander. So NABI APPOINTED THE TALOOT AS A COMMANDER.  
remember Allah never directly intervene in people's affairs. Same as Allah given us bounties, the respectable job or any other prestigious responsibility ,prosperity, etc etc.  
Please correct your stance "*And their prophet said to them: SURELY ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU (Allah appointed Saul king, not that prophet)"  

Comments by: Nargis On 11 October 2011Report Abuse

Imagine two trees in the forest, and I plant one in my own garden. Then I take care of it and make sure it’s nourished properly in order for it to grow and produce oxygen  
 
You may perceive that both trees are created in a way that both of them need nourishment in order to grow and perform their duties. I cannot give my tree kit cat or Whiskas; I have to follow the law of nature if I want its growth  
Now, is not this method of growth created by the Creator? Is not the Creator responsible for both the trees to grow? Is it not the Creator who is responsible for the fact that my tree doesn’t like ice cream and noodles?  
 
What difference does it make, whether I water my tree or the forest water the other tree?  
 
Both are subject to a special kind of nourishment in order to flourish, no matter who provides it to them. As long as it is under the laws of Allah, both are plants able to cultivate  
 
Likewise, with Saul, they system of nature is created in a special manner, ability to see, observe, decode, comprehend is dependent on knowledge.  
 
*Someone who has knowledge will observe and grasp more than an ignorant person who have two dollar rupee more in his pocket.  
 
*A kung Fu master will easily fight another fighter, because of his knowledge and training  
 
So the systems of nature, the Nature, the laws of nature, are made in that sense.  
 
Now it is the Nabi who is asked to pick a commander/ leader in order to LEAD, in order to PERFORM tasks according to their difficulties and required qualifications.  
 
And who can do that, who can find a befitted leader for tasks according to their required skills?  
 
That’s the Nabi, who have to pick the suitable tree, for that HE must have the authority to do so, and the knowledge to distinguish a tree from a flower.  
 
So Allah sat a law, a tree will be big and operate as shadow, protection from the sun  
And a rose will not be able to do that  
 
The Nabi need that knowledge, and USE it, pick the tree where it is needed.  
 
If its up to the people, they want the flower to lead because it is more beautiful and attractive (wealthy person), whereas a Nabi have the ability to distinguish quality,ability,competence from the attractive looking illusions.Thats why he picked the tree because he is more likely to work according to its requirements.  
 
Don’t know if that made sense, but heyy, I tried at least. And other questions will be answered later!  
 
Brother Moazzam:- " It is clear in verse 2/246 that people demanding Commander directly from NABI, to fight under his command against JALOOT.Definitly Nabi will select the commander according to the criteria given by Allah (as per Allah’s will),therefore any action done by Rasool/Nabi according to the message/guidance written in Alkitab or by the laws of nature will definitely be referred to ALLAH, see the verse 76/30,2/102,7/58,10/100,35/32,64/11,6/111  
76/30 وَمَا تَشَاؤُونَ إِلَّا أَن يَشَاءَ اللَّهُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا " :-D :-D :-D  
 
These verses must be seen in order to see what a Nabi is doing. Thank you brother Moazzam  
 
Ciao Mjau


Comments by: moazzam On 11 October 2011
BARKHURDAR;TUM NE SAHI SAMJHA HAI.

Comments by: Waqar On 11 October 2011Report Abuse
Dear brother Dhulqarnain,  
Please pay attention to 33:40 and 3:144.  
 
According to 33:40 Muhammad is "Rasool Allah" and "Khatam alnnabiyyeen", not the nabi himself and in 3:144 "illa rasoolun", not "illa rasoolunnabi".  
 
Brother Moazzam or others please explain the term "nubuwwat" in 3:79.  
 
3:78 And lo! there is a party of them who distort the Scripture with their tongues, that ye may think that what they say is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture. And they say: It is from Allah, when it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie concerning Allah knowingly.  
 
3:79 It is not (possible) for any human being unto whom Allah had given the Scripture and wisdom and the prophethood (NUBUWWAT) that he should afterwards have said unto mankind: Be slaves of me instead of Allah; but (what he said was): Be ye faithful servants of the Lord by virtue of your constant teaching of the Scripture and of your constant study thereof.  
 
3:80 And he commanded you not that ye should take the angels and the prophets for lords. Would he command you to disbelieve after ye had surrendered (to Allah)?  
 
Regards,  
Waqar

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 12 October 2011Report Abuse
PEACE MOAZZAM AND NARGIS,  
 
***MOAZZAM: Dear Dhulqarnain! Please focus on my post " It is clear in verse 2/246 that people demanding Commander directly from NABI, to fight under his command against JALOOT.Definitly Nabi will select the commander according to the criteria given by Allah (as per Allah’s will),therefore any action done by Rasool/Nabi according to the message/guidance written in Alkitab or by the laws of nature will definitely be referred to ALLAH, see the verse 76/30,2/102,7/58,10/100,35/32,64/11,6/111 76/30 وَمَا تَشَاؤُونَ إِلَّا أَن يَشَاءَ اللَّهُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا "It was known to the followers of Nabi (bani israil) that, every happening by the nabi/else-one ultimately referred to Allah,***  
 
I’m sorry, but I cannot make out what you’re saying here.  
 
***MOAZZAM even then they asked to prophet for the appointment of their commander. So NABI APPOINTED THE TALOOT AS A COMMANDER.***  
 
Certainly the people asked the prophet to appoint a king/commander , no problem, but, in fact, he did not appoint Taloot, Allah did. Certainly the prophet voiced Allah’s Command, but the prophet did not come up with the idea for Taloot as King, Allah did. The ayat is plainly written in this fashion. The prophets did nothing without the authority of Allah. Tell me, what manual did the prophet use to choose and appoint Taloot? What, exactly was his criteria for choosing and appointing Taloot. I don’t want your opinion on this but the ayat from Al-Quran which tells us exactly how he did this.  
 
Let me ask you this, did “Muhammad” study the laws of nature and then, based on his studies, conceive and then write Al-Quran or did Allah concieve Al-Quran and reveal it to "Muhammad"? If "Muhammad" didn’t do this and Al-Quran was in fact revealed to him, then it’s the same with that prophet and Taloot. That prophet no more studied the laws of nature and obeyed the people and then chose Taloot as king. Allah chose him as king and that prophet voiced Allah’s choice—not his own.  
 
***MOAZZAM remember Allah never directly intervene in people's affairs.***  
 
No problem. Allah did not directly intervene in “Muhammad’s” affairs either when He revealed Al-Quran to him via Jibril.  
 
***MOAZZAM Same as Allah given us bounties, the respectable job or any other prestigious responsibility ,prosperity, etc etc.  
 
***MOAZZAM: Please correct your stance "*And their prophet said to them: SURELY ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU (Allah appointed Saul king, not that prophet)"***  
 
Do you read the last sentence as I do?----*And their prophet said to them: SURELY ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU. The prophet clearly stated that Allah choose Saul and not him.  
 
If what you’re saying was correct, then you and Nargis would be able to identify, by name, numerous people throughout history since the death of “Muhammad” who were prophets and who they appointed as heads of states/commanders. Without this proof what you’re saying remains in the realm of theory, conjecture, opinion, but not veriable fact.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: moazzam On 12 October 2011
Dear Dhulqarnain! 76/30 وَمَا تَشَاؤُونَ إِلَّا أَن يَشَاءَ اللَّهُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا And you do not will except that Allah wills. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.  
People demanding appointment of commander from NABI, Definitely, Nabi will select any one amongst them as per criteria given by Allah,there is no direct divine intervention at all in the universe, to appoint president,prime ministers, chiefs,heads of departments etc.  
NABI APPOINTED "TALOOT" AS THEIR COMMANDER= And their prophet said to them ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU.  
You again repeated the same question, to show the list of Ambiya if there are(as an empirical evidence)? whereas i am talking about the sense of the quranic verses only.

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 12 October 2011Report Abuse
PEACE WAQAR,  
 
***WAQAR: According to 33:40 Muhammad is "Rasool Allah" and "Khatam alnnabiyyeen", not the nabi himself and in 3:144 "illa rasoolun", not "illa rasoolunnabi".***  
 
How could “Muhammad” be the last of the prophets if he wasn’t a prophet himself? The ayat doesn’t say the he was the last of the messengers. Ayat 44:5 states that Allah is ever sending messengers so he couldn’t be the last of the messengers.  
 
44:5 A command from Us — truly We are ever sending messengers —  
 
Here, look at the ayat 33:40, again:  
 
33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.  
 
“…Seal of the Prophets…  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Nargis On 12 October 2011Report Abuse

YES, khatim al nabiyeen,,,NOT,,,NOT khatim al nabowat  
 
It's a huge difference  
 
And brother Moazzam summarized it very well, Allah has set standards for the qualifications and conditions that must be satisfied in order to carry out a “job” as a commander, while Nabi choose the commander in within the paradigm, under these principles and requirements.  
 
If Allah said a commander must have yellow hair with pink flowers, then the Nabi would have to find someone who satisfied these requirements by Allah  
 
Brother Moazzam:- You again repeated the same question, to show the list of Ambiya if there are(as an empirical evidence)? whereas i am talking about the sense of the quranic verses only.  
 
Yes :-D


Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 12 October 2011Report Abuse
PEACE MOAZZAM,  
 
BATHA/RAISE: to raise up. Dictionary of Al-Quran by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg. 56  
 
RAISE: to move to a higher position; lift up; elevate.  
 
*** MOAZZAM,there is no direct divine intervention at all in the universe,…***  
 
This may be true or not, but regardless, “not direct” doesn’t mean Allah isn’t actively directing things.  
 
*** MOAZZAM,there is no direct divine intervention at all in the universe,… to appoint president,prime ministers, chiefs,heads of departments etc.***  
 
I agree, but there are no prophets around today either and haven’t been since the death of “Muhammad”. What prophet then, given that you and Nargis claim they appoint heads of state, appointed Obama to be Commander-in-Chief of the most powerful state on the earth? What prophet selected Putin to be head of state in Russia? What of Hu Juntao in China, what prophet selected him or the heads of state in Saudi Arabia or Yemen?  
 
*** MOAZZAM,You again repeated the same question, to show the list of Ambiya if there are(as an empirical evidence)? whereas i am talking about the sense of the quranic verses only.***  
 
Do you see, eventually to bring your claims out of he realm of abstraction and into the actual world, empirical evidence is required, there’s simply no escaping this simple truth.  
 
Anyway…  
 
Let’s do it like this then.  
 
Allah says: “…And their prophet said to them ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU.”  
 
Now, can you find me the ayat which says:  
 
Allah says: “…And their prophet said to them—I RAISE(D) UP SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU.  
 
You see, Moazzam you have to find an ayat with that wording, otherwise, you have no evidence for a prophet appointing anyone. As I said before, the ayat is not written the way you’re using it. Thefollowing positions are not equal/interchangeable:  
 
NABI APPOINTED "TALOOT" AS THEIR COMMANDER= ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER YOU.  
 
These are entirely different assertions just as the following are entirely different assertions:  
 
EVER SENDING MESSENGERS DOES NOT= EVER SENDING PROPHETS.  
 
You and Nargis have an inclination to make things equivalent which, in fact, aren’t equivalent, especially, when Al-Quran does not support you. How can anyone effectively debate/discuss an issue with you guys if you won’t make a distinction between terms and things which are clearly stated? There can be no resolution to issues if you and Nargis continue in this manner.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  
 

Comments by: Waqar On 13 October 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqarnain,  
Yes, 33:40 -- Muhammad is Khatam alnnabiyyeen (seal of prophets), not the nabi (prophet) himself.  
According to 3:144 Muhammad is NO MORE THAN A MESSENGER (rasool), he is not a prophet (nabi).  
 
3:79 It is not (possible) for any human being (bashar) unto whom Allah had given the Scripture (alkitab) and wisdom (alhukma) and the prophethood (alnabuwwat) that he should afterwards have said unto mankind: Be slaves of me instead of Allah; but (what he said was): Be ye faithful servants of the Lord by virtue of your constant teaching of the Scripture (alkitab) and of your constant study thereof. We still have human beings, we have scripture, people can still have wisdom then why not nabuwwat?  
 
Why is this criteria to identify such a person given in the Quran?  
What will that person say? "be abd of Allah not his own". How? "through alkitab". Who gave alkitab? "Allah". So, if a nabi appoints someone then who is appointing actually?  
 
Regards,  
Waqar

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 13 October 2011Report Abuse
PEACE NARGIS,  
 
3:79 It is not meet for a mortal that Allah should give him the Book and the wisdom and prophethood, then he should say to men: Be my servants rather than Allah's; but rather (he would say): Be worshippers of the Lord because of your teaching the Book and your reading (it yourselves).  
 
33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.  
 
***NARGIS: YES, khatim al nabiyeen,,,NOT,,,NOT khatim al nabowat It's a huge difference***  
 
What’s the huge difference?  
 
-HOOD: an English suffix that means a "state or condition of" or a group sharing a certain characteristic. Examples include childhood and falsehood.  
 
In order to be in the prophethood, one would have had to been a prophet.  
 
***NARGIS: And brother Moazzam summarized it very well, Allah has set standards for the qualifications and conditions that must be satisfied in order to carry out a “job” as a commander, while Nabi choose the commander in within the paradigm, under these principles and requirements.***  
 
Nargis, if you show, say a fith grader, the following:  
 
2:247...And their PROPHET SAID to them: SURELY ALLAH HAS RAISED SAUL TO BE KING OVER...He said: SURELY ALLAH HAS CHOSEN HIM ABOVE YOU...  
 
Then you asked the fifth grader...who raised Saul...the prophet or Allah?  
 
What do you think the fifth grader would say?  
 
You can ask 10 people the above questions and 10 people, including a fifth grade, would answer Allah. Test it out.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

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Comments by: moazzam On 13 October 2011
Dear Dhulqarnain! As direct words of Alkitab have their importance, the appropriate sense of the words (as per context) is more important as well.  
I said time and again in my posts that, there is/will be no direct divine interventions in the universe (especially in the people’s affaires) at all. Each and every verse with such a wording which shows direct involvement of Allah, in fact happens through due course of procedure already described in Alkitab or as we experience in universe (laws of nature). There are many verses in Alkitab which supports this claim, for examples read the following.  
 
2/7 خَتَمَ اللّهُ عَلَى قُلُوبِهمْ وَعَلَى سَمْعِهِمْ وَعَلَى أَبْصَارِهِمْ غِشَاوَةٌ  
Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil;  
4/155  
فَبِمَا نَقْضِهِم مِّيثَاقَهُمْ وَكُفْرِهِم بَآيَاتِ اللّهِ وَقَتْلِهِمُ الْأَنْبِيَاءَ بِغَيْرِ حَقٍّ وَقَوْلِهِمْ قُلُوبُنَا غُلْفٌ بَلْ طَبَعَ اللّهُ عَلَيْهَا بِكُفْرِهِمْ فَلاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ إِلاَّ قَلِيلاً  
(They have incurred divine displeasure): In that they broke their covenant; that they rejected the signs of Allah; that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right; that they said, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah's Word; We need no more)";- Nay, Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy, and little is it they believe.  
How Allah seals the hearts of men directly.  
verse 67/16 Such are men whose hearts Allah has sealed, and who follow their own lusts.  
How Allah took their light to leave them blind directly by his intervention.  
2/17 ذَهَبَ اللّهُ بِنُورِهِمْ وَتَرَكَهُمْ فِي ظُلُمَاتٍ لاَّ يُبْصِرُونَ  
Allah took away their light and left them in utter darkness. So they could not see.  
 
How can we give loan directly to Allah  
2/245 مَّن ذَا الَّذِي يُقْرِضُ اللّهَ قَرْضًا حَسَنًا فَيُضَاعِفَهُ لَهُ أَضْعَافًا كَثِيرَةً  
Who is he that will loan to Allah a beautiful loan, which Allah will double unto his credit and multiply many times  
How Allah is giving kingdom/authority directly to which he pleased (IS THIS PRINCIPLE STILL CONTINUED TO DATE)?  
2/247 وَاللّهُ يُؤْتِي مُلْكَهُ مَن يَشَاءُ وَاللّهُ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ  
Allah Granteth His authority to whom He pleaseth. Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things.  
How Allah granted power to a KAFIR  
2/258 أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِي حَآجَّ إِبْرَاهِيمَ فِي رَبِّهِ أَنْ آتَاهُ اللّهُ الْمُلْكَ  
Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power  
SO, APPOINTMENT OF COMMANDER BY NABI THROUGH ALLAH'S CRITERIA = APPOINTMENT OF COMMANDER BY ALLAH (prophet said Allah appointed Taloot as your commander to fight with Jaloot)

Comments by: Mujeeb On 13 October 2011Report Abuse
Mr Dhulqarnain and all participants: Please find here under a best answers to the relevant debate at on going thread.  
Ali haider :I want to ask question that if we reject the mojzat than how will we admit that a person who is calming to become a nabi is actually a nabi?  
Dr. Qamarzaman: whole system of نبوت and رسالت is misunderstood either intentionally or unintentionally. Supernatural aspect with mythological background is attached to the concept of رسالت and نبوت , in simple words رسالت means to convey the message ,and نبوت means the appointment of a person at a position where he has authority to implement the message .  
The proof for that is that we don’t find any terminology in Quran for “ Head of a state “ except نبی .All the orders given to نبی are for the head of the state .  
So he has not to prove his position of نبوہ by miracles as نبوہ has no supernatural or mythological aspect. none of the head of the state in past present or in future has to prove his mythological appointment . It’s the people who decide the best person for that post, and once selected or elected he has all the powers to implement laws.  
 
Aurangzaib : If a Messenger is divinely appointed in the present times, I think, he will be a man of unmatched qualities and highest human attributes. He will be the one with unparalleled wisdom, genius and foresight. He will be the best combination of leader of men, diplomat, ruler and general. His role will always be that of the Savior of humanity.  
He will stand up against the hegemonic designs of super powers and against all exploiters and tyrants of the time.  
 
So, I think, it may not be difficult to recognize him, IF he appears in our modern, scientific age.  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 15 October 2011Report Abuse
PEACE MOAZZAM and NARGIS,  
 
***MOAZZAM: Dear Dhulqarnain! As direct words of Alkitab have their importance, the appropriate sense of the words (as per context) is more important as well.***  
 
Do you mean: You mixed tenses: Pick the one you mean.  
 
a) As direct words of Alkitab have their importance, the appropriate sense of the words (as per context) is more important  
 
b) As direct words of Alkitab have their importance, the appropriate sense of the words (as per context) is more important.  
 
c) As direct words of Alkitab have their importance, the appropriate sense of the words (as per context) is important as well.  
 
***MOAZZAM: I said time and again in my posts that, there is/will be no direct divine interventions in the universe (especially in the people’s affaires) at all. Each and every verse with such a wording which shows direct involvement of Allah, in fact happens through due course of procedure already described in Alkitab or as we experience in universe (laws of nature). There are many verses in Alkitab which supports this claim, for examples read the following.***  
 
My argument is around direct vs, indirect. My argument is who chooses and authorizes.  
 
2:246 Hast thou not thought of the leaders of the Children of Israel after Moses? When they said to a prophet of theirs: Raise up for us a king, that we may fight in the way of Allah. He said: May it not be that you will not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in Allah’s way and we have indeed been deprived of our homes and our children? But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them. And Allah is Knower of the wrongdoers.  
 
2:247 And their prophet said to them: Surely Allah has raised Saul to be a king over you. They said: How can he have kingdom over us while we have a greater right to kingdom than he, and he has not been granted abundance of wealth? He said: Surely Allah has chosen him above you, and has increased him abundantly in knowledge and physique. And Allah grants His kingdom  
 
You maintain that the prophet , mentioned in 2:246-247, choose and appointed/authorized Taloot to be king, however, the ayat does not read like that. It states that Allah chose and appointed Taloot. Now, certainly, Allah didn’t do this directly, that is, in person, however, He did command His prophet to voice His Will. The prophet, despite what the the people requested, was given no personal power to choose and appoint Taloot. Now, contrast this with Dhu-Al-Qarnain:  
 
18:94-96 They said: O Dhu-l-qarnain, Gog and Magog do mischief in the land. May we then pay thee tribute on condition that thou raise a barrier between us and them?  
 
In ayat 18:94 the people are making a direct request of Dhu-l-qarnain, just as the people requested that prophet in ayat 2:247 to give them a king.  
 
18:95 He said: That wherein my Lord has established me is better, so if only you help me with strength (of men), I will make a fortified barrier between you and them:  
 
Now, here’s the contrast. In ayat 18:95 Dhu-l-qarnain, although authorized by Allah, personally takes responsibility ( “I” will make…”) for an action, whereas, the prophet in 2:247 does not.  
 
18:96 Bring me blocks of iron. At length, when he had filled up the space between the two mountain sides, he said, Blow. Till, when he had made it (as) fire, he said: Bring me molten brass to pour over it.  
 
Again, Dhu-Al-Qarnain states…”Bring “me”…” showing it’s him taking the action/choosing.  
 
Remember, Allah knows how to use words and state His case clearly/mubeen.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 15 October 2011Report Abuse
PEACE MUJEEB,  
 
 
MUJEEB: Mr Dhulqarnain and all participants: Please find here under a best answers to the relevant debate at on going thread.  
 
ALI HAIDER:I want to ask question that if we reject the mojzat than how will we admit that a person who is calming to become a nabi is actually a nabi?  
 
What is "mojzat"?  
 
DR. QAMARZAMAN: whole system of نبوت and رسالت is misunderstood either intentionally or unintentionally. Supernatural aspect with mythological background is attached to the concept of رسالت and نبوت , in simple words رسالت means to convey the message ,and نبوت means the appointment of a person at a position where he has authority to implement the message . The proof for that is that we don’t find any terminology in Quran for “ Head of a state “ except نبی .All the orders given to نبی are for the head of the state . So he has not to prove his position of نبوہ by miracles as نبوہ has no supernatural or mythological aspect . none of the head of the state in past present or in future has to prove his mythological appointment . It’s the people who decide the best person for that post ,and once selected or elected he has all the powers to implement laws .  
 
I really wish I knew what you were saying here. Can you rephrase exactly what your point is?  
 
The term “supernatural”, as with “miracle” are over used/loosely used terms which are used only for convenience. Exactly how Allah communicated with His Prophets is yet unknown to us. Jibril, for example, no one knows how this maliaka functions, yet, he was the agency which brought form Allah, to a human being and prophet, a message. If this is not true, then “Muhammad”, after studying the laws of nature conceived and then wrote a perfect book of guidance. There are laws operating which can only be known once the human being “crosses over”.  
 
***AURANGZAIB : If a Messenger is divinely appointed in the present times, I think, he will be a man of unmatched qualities and highest human attributes. He will be the one with unparalleled wisdom, genius and foresight. He will be the best combination of leader of men, diplomat, ruler and general. His role will always be that of the Savior of humanity. He will stand up against the hegemonic designs of super powers and against all exploiters and tyrants of the time. So, I think, it may not be difficult to recognize him, IF he appears in our modern, scientific age.***  
 
Allah gives no such criteria for a messenger. The only duty of a messenger is to convey the Message—Al-Quran, clearly. I don’t know why some feel a need to complicate matters.  
 
Dhulqarnain-

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 15 October 2011Report Abuse
PEACE TO ALL,  
 
We are beginning to drift a bit from the thread topic:  
 
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROPHET AND MESSENGER PROPHET, NABI AND NABI RASOOL.  
 
Dhulqarnain-  

Comments by: Nargis On 15 October 2011Report Abuse

Zulqarnain  
 
قرن = Qarn: to connect, to couple or conjoin, to relate  
قرن شیئاّ بشئی = Qarana Shayi’an bi Shayi’in: He connected, coupled or conjoined  
قرینہ = a connection, relation, etc.  
ذو القرنین =Dzu al Qarnain (Zulqarnain/dhul-qarnayn): - the two horned one, one belonging to two centuries, or two generations, master of two states/kingdoms.  
By the above meanings from lexicons, Zulqarnain may very well mean “the one capable of - having the power of - conjoining two civilizations together”  
 
The story shows that, " ZULQARNAIN OF THE TIME" (the conjoinor of dawn and dusk communities(civilizations) should take the guidance in his time,if fined similar situation as described in Quran.  
#:- If he has power and control with full ruling authority in any demarcated society (country) in any era, as described in verse 18/84,and performs under mentioned tasks(as per quran), could be called ZULQARNAIN.  
#:- His dealing with the dusk-nation (defeated group of people) has been described in verses 18/-86-88.  
# :-His dealing with the people of the dawn (civilized and developing group of the society), has been taken understood in verses18/90-91  
#:- His dealing with the third type of complex community (under developed) in the same country has been described in verses 18/93-98. Here two different types of societies are living together(in clash with each other) One is highly civilized and other is barbarian in his character (YAJOOJ MAJOOJ).  
#:-For peace sake he separated them (for the time being) by very strong means, and expressed the hope, that, certainly, time will come, when this obstruction will not be needed any more, see the verse18/98.They all will become very close to each other (like sugar and milk) as a one community see the verse18/99.Zulqarnain knew the sunnstullah regarding sending of prophets in each nation to guide them at right track.  
 
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the episode of “YAJOOJ MAJOOJ” in the same story is concerns please read the following terminologies prior to proceed further in details.  
1) Yajooj يَأْجُوجَ = the root is AJJAJA, means to attack at enemy, smug and snooty, an arrogant.  
2) Majooj مَأْجُوجَ = Root is Mujuj, means haughty, puffed-up.  
The character ofYajooj Majooj is also explained in the same verse that is YUFSIDAN E FIL ARZ.(ANTI ISLAMIC FORCES)  
3) Radma رَدْمًا = To make patch-up, mending,  
4) Zubur Alhadeed زُبَرَ الْحَدِيدِ = The most articulate person with full of wisdom.  
5) Sadafain الصَّدَفَيْنِ = The causes/reasons of departing two parties.  
6) Afrigh أُفْرِغْ = Root is faraghr, Rajulun fareegh mean the most articulate person a good pleader  
7) Qitrun قِطْرً = Alqataru, to pour systematically, to narrate logically (bit by bit)  
8) Yezharahيَظْهَرُو = To over come  
9) Naqaba نَقْبًا = To dominate  
10) Jaalaho narun جَعَلَهُ نَارًا = Become clear (known)  
11) Anfakhu انفُخُوا = Arguing /debating to probe into the matter.  
Let us elaborate the said story  
Verse 18/93,ZULQARNAIN’s dealing with two different type of races/societies has been described, one was a complex in nature, (barbarian in character, called YAJOOJ MAJOOJ). Whereas other was much civilized in behavior.  
Verse 94, The members of the civilized society asked for help to rescue them from YAJOOJ MAJOOJ, such that to arrange /build some partition between both of them.  
Verse 95, ZULQARNAIN replied that, I have much better solution as THE SUSTAINER OF THIS WORLD bestowed/awarded me understand. You have to help me with power, I will arrange to make patch-up between you both.  
Verse 96, give me some most wise and articulate people to find out the reason/causes of departing said two societies, when he became full aware of the matter. Then he involved himself and came forward to make YAJOOJ MAJOOJ elucidated/illuminated in a way they could grasp.So the matter was resolved emicably.  
Verse 97, The YAJOOJ MAJOOJ were neither in a position to dominate nor to overlook his (ZULQARNAIN) mediation.  
Verse 98, This is in fact the mercy of THE SUSTAINER OF THIS WORLD bestowed to mankind through his system of RABOBIYAT.  
Remember The character YAJOOJ MAJOOD described in verse 21/96 is not the same which is described specifically in Surah Kahf (the ZULQARNAIN story), but the character in general normally called MUFSIDEEN/ FASIQEEN HAS BEEN DESCRIBED , TO COMPREHEND THE SENSE OF THE SAID CHARACTERS AND VERSES YOU HAVE TO CONSOLIDATE 17/16 WITH 21/96.


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Remember, Allah knows how to use words and state His case clearly/mubeen.

 
 
I also find math mubeen, ,,,when I made an effort to understand it  
 
....moral of the story is  
 
Math is mubeen, but not for me until I try to understand it through it sown methods and rules.....


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What is God's interest in our well being when he is omnipotent. Please answer this stupid question? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 11/10/2010
 
Where is Muslim world found today in view of new definition of , Muslim, momin etc and does there exist Muslim Umma in these modern times? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 11/10/2010
 
salam dr shab janab sey arz hey k hum english nai jantey,hum kesey quran samaj saktey hain hamarey jeasey kafi loog hain jo ser urdo jantey hain hamara bhe huk hey k deen sumjhain. aghar deen main ibadat nai hey to (maksad e hayyat)kiya hey Question by: iqbalasghar From PAKISTAN (SARA E ALAMGIR) On 14/10/2010
 
salam, janab dr sahab jawab aap sey manga thaa jawab koi or deeta hey kiya ye theek hey ye bhi ho sakta hey k jawab deney walla meri tara k student ho brae mehbani khood jawab dain shukria Question by: iqbalasghar From PAKISTAN (SARA E ALAMGIR) On 18/10/2010
 
PLEASE REVIEW SIGNIFICANCE OF" MAIHER" IN MUSLIM MARRIAGE LAW IN THE LIGHT OF QURAN? Question by: pervez On 21/10/2010
 
sr. mere sawal kajawab nahi mila jin aurat ka shohar marr jae woh 4 mahina 10 din ki eddat kion karti he? haqqoqunnissa parh leney k bad phi sawal mera yahi he ? Question by: babarsharif34@yahoo.com On 21/10/2010
 
Please explain "QAYAMAT" in detail? Will it come when the whole universe will be destroyed and ALLAH will disclose NAMA-I-AIMAL of every individual and his fate for paradise or hell will be decided? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 22/10/2010
 
Gay's, homosexuals claim they are born like that....What do our Astanamembers have to say about it ? Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 22/10/2010
 
Salaamun 'Alaikum, After careful research and study on some 'key' Quranic concepts, I realize that we are to ESTABLISH DEEN in our lives REGARDLESS of the Secularists and their man-made laws. What are your thoughts on this viewpoint? Question by: Damon From UNITED STATES (PITTSBURGH) On 23/10/2010
 
does the concept of hoor exist in christianity?plz help me know it.i need it very much Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 26/10/2010
 
Sir, AAP KI KITAB HAQIQAT MALAIKA PARHHI AIK SAWAL THA. ALLAH NE HAMAIN MALAIKA PAR IMAN LANE KO KAHA HE. AGAR AAP NE JO TAREEF KI MALIKA KI TO US PAR IMAN KA KIA TALOQ BANTA HE. Question by: babarsharif34@yahoo.com On 05/11/2010
 
Some Aastana peer watch the Video on the link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaCWVXNByTc) and comment on its religious aspect Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 05/11/2010
 
Have you read Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 07/11/2010
 
We have discussions about life after death and how disruptive it was to imagine that there is no life after death. Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 08/11/2010
 
Is "wahy" part of "sunnat Allah"? If so, how does it works in relation to the laws of nature? Can it be proven? I have another question too (answer one,get one free)please explain 2:78, what it means& whts with the slaves, free, women, etc? Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 10/11/2010
 
MERRY EIDMAS AND HAPPY OLD YEARS,SORRY I MEAN CHRISTMAS MUBARIK . Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 16/11/2010
 
Dear Doctor Qamer ,Muslims believe Prophet Muhammad is "Khatim-un-nabeen" Kindly support this faith with reason? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 19/11/2010
 
Have a look at this : http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 21/11/2010
 
IS QURAN A SIMPLE BOOK TO UNDERSTSND? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 23/11/2010
 
Someone please explain the "dream" concept of Prophet Yusuf? What do the Quran say about dreams,are they true or just thoughts? Im waiting,help:- O Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 24/11/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamar Zaman Please translate verse 2:219 correctly. "And they ask what they should give.Say what is surplus".Does the arabic word "AFU" means surplus? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 27/11/2010
 
Salaam. Is the Quran saying anything about Aliens ,monsters from other planets etc :P?? Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 30/11/2010
 
There is an ongoing discussion on “Ourbeacon” regarding the phrase “Allah-hu-Akbar”. I believe the subject matter to be extremely profound, something which members of Aastana would appreciate reading. Question by: William From UNITED KINGDOM On 30/11/2010
 
Is there any word in the Quraan for BELIEFor BELIEVE? Is Islam an ideology(A comprehensive and coherent set of basic beliefs about political, economic, social and cultural affairs that is held in common by a sizable group of people within a society)? Question by: Hafiz Abdullah From PAKISTAN (RAWALPINDI) On 01/12/2010
 
What are the meanings of EIMAN n MOMIN in 49: 14-15? Question by: Hafiz Abdullah From PAKISTAN (RAWALPINDI) On 01/12/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamar Zaman do you believe that people can still get WAHI from Allah,and become Nabi?Do you not believe that Muhammad was the last who received direct knowledge from God?Why do you say Muhammad is appointing authority of other prophets? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 02/12/2010
 
I have created a branch of the Aastana blog called "Linguistic & grammatical Exposition of the Quran" on Facebook and hope all of you join. nahi to..argg Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 04/12/2010
 
Dear All: Please go through my comments. Question by: Adnan Muhammad Khan From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 04/12/2010
 
PLEASE EXPLAIN AYAT NO 7 OF SURA 33 ( AL AHZAB) Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 06/12/2010
 
Does Quran gives the concept of Nationhood or Countries as they exist today. If yes then what should be the mode and form of Government. Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 07/12/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamarzaman: Plz enlighten us about the verse14/48 keeping in view the context of the subject from 42-52.Also the verses 11/107-108,with respect to the context 11/103-108.Thanks Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 15/12/2010
 
How many men and women claimed Prophet hood after Muhammad and did anyone of them made any significant achievement or influenced humanity positively? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 18/12/2010
 
Dear All, what is Ahmed Huluci's Ellah ( idoelogy ) of Islam ? Question by: Mubashir Syed From INDIA (HYDERABAD) On 20/12/2010
 
Plz explain 38:27, how can one become kafir if he think differently about the universe. Also explain 29:44,"signs in the heaven and earth for those who BELIEVE"? Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 24/12/2010
 
Dear Dr Qamar Zaman or brother Aurangzaib a person told me if God can communicate with Moses,Jesus and Muhammad.So why can he not communicate with anybody else today?Please answer my question.Thank you very much Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 25/12/2010
 
Why do people try to prove the Qur'an through science? We find science in other books than the Quran, why are not they labeled as "divine"? Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 26/12/2010
 
I wonder how and why the Human Beings have assumed the status of the best life spices on Earth (or Universe). The term "ASHRAF-UL-MAKHLUQAT" was also coined unilaterally without considering the significance of Mankind in the Universe. Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 27/12/2010
 
Please watch , a good video on zakat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vtmZNziH6U&feature=player_embedded#! Question by: alam1162@gmail.com From INDIA (DELHI) On 29/12/2010
 
PLEASE DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SCIENCE AND DIVINITY ? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 30/12/2010
 
AL-KITAB + LAWS OF NATURE, is divine guidance as Moazzem says, Why humanity was plunged in to religious wars??? SCIENTISTS NEVER FIGHT IF THEY ARE PROVED WRONG. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 31/12/2010
 
Muslims invented 5 pillows of Islam. Why learning Arabic is not mandatory in Islam?? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 31/12/2010
 
Dear Dr. Qamar Zaman: can you explain: [6/105] وَكَذَلِكَ نُصَرِّفُ الْآيَاتِ وَلِيَقُولُواْ دَرَسْتَ وَلِنُبَيِّنَهُ لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ Question by: M.N.Khalid From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 01/01/2011
 
Sura Baqra Ayah 223 "Your Women are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth as ye will ......". If Allah had to restrict husbands to wifes only then why was "AZWAJ" not used instead of "NISA". Here NISA means any woman (not necessarily wife). Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 01/01/2011
 
Aap ke nazar me Tauheen e Risalat koi jurm hai ya nahi? 2- Tauheen e Risalat ke mujrim ko kia saza milni chahye? 3- kia ghair muslimo ko is baat ki ijazat honee chahyee ke wo Rasool e Akram PBUH ki shan me gustakhi kar saken? Question by: UMAR HUSSAIN On 04/01/2011
 
dear dr qamar sahib please translate the verse 4:34.thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 06/01/2011
 
Has Human's beautiful (Animal) instincts and natural desires been checked by Divinity ? Question by: M.N.Khalid From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 08/01/2011
 
Is Sex allowed with Slave Women in Islam? Dr Zakir Naik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UVmSQHquJc&feature=player_embedded#! Question by: mohd.areeb On 08/01/2011
 
Dear Dr Qamar sahib i am not noticing your presence on the blog.You know that without you this blog is nothing.I know you are very busy.But i request you to please give some time to the blog.Thank you very much Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 09/01/2011
 
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jan2011-daily/10-01-2011/col8.htm Every one is invited to comment on above cited column written by Ansar Abasi, especially. Dr. Sb., Aurangzaib sb., Moazzam Sb., Dr. Shahid and Sister Nargis. Question by: Adnan Muhammad Khan From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 10/01/2011
 
A tribe in Africa who exercise "incest", and believe it to be a divine law. A consequences of such action are injurious to following generations, What are those consequences ? Question by: M.N.Khalid From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 10/01/2011
 
What is good about the "Little Mosque on the Prairie"? Question by: Zubair From UNITED STATES (WASHINGTON) On 11/01/2011
 
Surah Al-Ahzab Ayat No.57 and 61.. for Mr.Adnan and others. Question by: UMAR HUSSAIN On 11/01/2011
 
-Is the Quran changed?If yes,what is changed, how do we know it is changed, and what does it mean when it says no1 can change it?(i have a clue about the last one, but want to share it when i read your answers :-D) Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 25/01/2011
 
How to increase your knowledge? Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 25/01/2011
 
Brother Aurangzaib, I read Q&A of the your blog and found this ref of "Tabqaat-e-Ibn-e-Saad" to Dr. Samreen On23 Sept2010, http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?MID=4&SID=21. If the author of this book is `Abdullah ibn Sa`d Ibn Abi Sarh' Question by: Syeda On 29/01/2011
 
What is free will? What is basic instinct? How does free will separate man from animals? Question by: Junaid From PAKISTAN (KARACHI) On 31/01/2011
 
QURAN GIVES US PERMANENT VALUES BEYOND TIME AND SPACE, WHAT ARE THOSE? LET US ENUMERATE AND DISCUSS THEM ONE BY ONE? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 02/02/2011
 
Salaam Shalom shabba dabba do ,what is the "driving force" in Human beings, and what is the "nafs" thing? Are human beings superior to other creatures ? If yes, why?hhhhmmmm Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 17/02/2011
 
PERSONALITY IS CHANGELESSNESS IN CHANGE. WHAT IS THAT? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 25/02/2011
 
CAN PROPHETS MAKE MISTAKES? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 10/03/2011
 
Salaam to all (and me) ,What giant "fish" (whale/shark-zilla?) ate Prophet Yunus (37:142) Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 12/03/2011
 
Dear Aurangzaib and dr qamar sahib IS ALLAH THE ACTIVE FA'IL (DOER) IN THE UNIVERSE,OR HE HAS SET LAWS WHICH MANTAIN THE ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE?if allah is not the active fa'il will it not make him a far unapproachable God? n is allah a personal God? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 15/03/2011
 
Please review law of DEET. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 16/03/2011
 
Dear brother aurangzaib plz let me know about the actual story of TOOFAN E NOH (noah flood).i think the so called n2I interpretation is fake.am i right? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/03/2011
 
dear brother auragzaib plz let me know about the actual story of toofan e nooh.i think there is sth wrong with the so called n2i interpretation.am i right Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/03/2011
 
salaam Dr. Sahib, Does curse effect any one at all according to Quran? Question by: shireen On 22/03/2011
 
What's the point of mental development & how is it beneficial 4 the humanity? Does the Quran explain why we have to expand our capabilities when we are all goin to die anyway? how will Youm qayama have any meaning to me, when I'm not here? Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 22/03/2011
 
Good News As convener of Janat e Pakistan, Dr. AsarulIslam has nominated Mr. Aurangzaib Yousafzai as the adhoc President and “Party Leader” in Rawalpindi/Islamabad What are the Quranic injunctions for a political party ? Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 23/03/2011
 
Congratulations to brother AURANGZAIB!!! Dear Brother Aurangzaib i have come to know that you have been choosen as the president of JANAT E PAKISTAN party.I am very happy and want to congratulate you from the core of my hear!!! Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 24/03/2011
 
Brother Moazzam! Should we join/launch any political party to establish the true Islamic state?? As there are already so many parties working under the same manifesto. Question by: naeem sheikh From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 24/03/2011
 
Can anyone announce manifesto of Jannet-i-Pakistan political party to see how it is different from manifesto of other political parties in Pakistan? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 24/03/2011
 
Will AI surpass Human Intelligence? Question by: Zubair From UNITED STATES (WASHINGTON) On 27/03/2011
 
Brother Aurangzaib ! With out you this blog seems like a picture with out color. eagerly waiting for your comments at mine 29th,march. HOWALLAZEE URSILA RASOOLAHO BIL HUDAA WA DEEN ALHAQQ LIYUZHIRAHO ALLADDIN-E-KULLIH, 6:33, 48:28, , 61:9 . Question by: naeem sheikh From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 30/03/2011
 
Could woman be an IMAM/NABI/RASOOL in a man dominating societies.While keeping in view her physical system, structure, and her psychology,also MALKA SABA.If not then what about in the societies where she has equal rights? Question by: naeem sheikh From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 30/03/2011
 
Moazzam saheb and Aastana Members! Your teachings reflects that there is no any predestined event being played at earth. What about the historical steps been described in Quran about prophet Musa and Yousaf see verses 12/4-5, 28/5-7?? Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 06/04/2011
 
The world has succeeded in creating global village by study of "lohimahfooz" and "Alkitab". Is it wise to struggle for a state having label of "Islamic state" which will create a sect in humanity and will not be acceptable even by Muslim Ummah? Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 13/04/2011
 
1- Agr KHATIM ka matlab validater hae to MUHAMMAD se pehle kaun ye fareeza sr anjam deta tha? (haln keh Quran doosre nabbiun ka to zikr hae validater ka nahen) 2- Aur MUHAMMAD k bad ab kaun validater hae? Question by: Dr. Iqbal On 18/04/2011
 
In 3/81 " aur jb ham ne nabbiun se MISAAQ lya , jinhen ham ne KITAB aur HIKMAT de k jb tumhare pas koi RASOOL ae , us ki jo tumhare pas hae to tum us pe IMAAN le ana aur us ki NUSRAT krna....." wo kaunse NABI the aur RASOOL hen aur IMAN ka matlab? Question by: Dr. Iqbal On 18/04/2011
 
My dearest brother bob,please throw light on following ayats, sura haj ayat 47, almaaruj ayat 4, ayat 17 : 52 , ayat 10 : 45 , ayat 23 : 113. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 22/04/2011
 
In the present scenario of changing human civilization, Does the institution of family holds permanent value beyond time and space? What guidance we get from Quran. Question by: momin From PAKISTAN On 27/04/2011
 
Dear Dr Qamar Zaman, I wondered if the Quran are making any statements which are not certifiable, or describes mechanisms that our mind cannot understand? If yes, then how are such claims and depictions advantageous? Question by: bob From UNITED KINGDOM On 30/04/2011
 
Dear Members, I want to know about the true story of Toofan e Nooh. Is it different from orthodox story? Wassalam Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 01/05/2011
 
Dear members, please share your valuable thoughts about these questions Question by: bob From UNITED KINGDOM On 03/05/2011
 
IF AASTANA MEMBERS ARE NOT CLEAR AT THE VERY BASIC (IMPORTANT) ISSUE OF HAYAT ADDUNYA and AKHIRAH, HOW WOULD THEY GUIDE THE PEOPLE LIKE ME? PEOPLE LIKE MR MOAZZAM COULD ONLY MISGUIDE,AS I POINTED OUT IN THE BEGINNING.BE AWARE Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 03/05/2011
 
Dear All, does Quran try to convince people about existence of GOD which cant be proved??? Question by: Mubashir Syed From INDIA (HYDERABAD) On 04/05/2011
 
HAZRAT ALLAMA MOAZZAM SAHAB ! Enlighten us about the ALLAH O AKBAR. Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 05/05/2011
 
DearAurangzaib and Aastana members! Could atheist be included in the glad tiding offered to mankind in verse 2/62 . Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 06/05/2011
 
Can the Existence of God, as the Creator, be scientifically proved, irrespective of Quran's verdict that the nature of His existence can't be comprehended? Question by: aurangzaib From PAKISTAN On 12/05/2011
 
Allama moazzam Sahab ! IS POLYGAMY HARAM IN ISLAM AS A SPECIAL CASE ? For more detail read my comments Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 13/05/2011
 
What is alam-i-amer and alam-i-khalq, Question by: pervez On 16/05/2011
 
Dear brother Aurangzaib hope you are doing well.Plz let me now what the word RIBA means.Does it mean the interest of bank.Thank you Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/05/2011
 
How can an individual act and help in creating an Islamic society because all efforts for this objective ends up in the demand for a theocratic state. What course of action has been laid down in the Quran Bakhtiar Qayyum Question by: bqayyum From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 21/05/2011
 
Dear Members I wnat to know the divine laws which Quran wants to implement on society. Thanks Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 23/05/2011
 
Dr. Zaman and Aastana Team, While your interpretation of the Quran in "Human Rights" terms is quite refreshing what does the Quran say of one who engages majority of his life in vain deeds(movies, games, relaxing ect) while being peaceful(Muslim)? Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 23/05/2011
 
Dear brother Moazzam plz elaborate what is meant by AL YAHOOD and ALNASARA (as character).I request my respected brother Aurangzaib to take part in the discussion also.Jazakallah. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 23/05/2011
 
Salam Not all Muslims or believers get a Jenna in this life as one could b peaceful all their life n develop cancer, bad kids, divorce, car accident injury, ect.. How do u explain when bad things happen to good peaceful people? Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 24/05/2011
 
51:56 وَمَا خَلَقْتُ ٱلْجِنَّ وَٱلْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ Pls explain the above ayat. wassalam Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 24/05/2011
 
Salam, Dr. Zaman and Students of Quran, what is the point in praying for the sick or praying for anything for that matter if God wills not to intervene in our lives? Yes we must do our part but where's the hope if God will not intervene? Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 25/05/2011
 
If all aspects of life are controlled by the divine laws and Alkitab is also preserved in "Loh-e-Mehfooz", then everything has to pass the test of logic. What then is the logic with Haraam and Halaal according to Quran. Shariq Question by: SS From CANADA (VANCOUVER) On 25/05/2011
 
Dear Dear ones, is there anything called "soul" in the Quran? Explain like im two years old, here i need spoon feeding or feedingbottle. Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 26/05/2011
 
Dear Dr. Qamar, With all the information on this site and similarly others, how is one to digest it all? There has been a battle to rewire your system to think more rationally and when you think you are, you get another wake up call. Years, maybe? Question by: Shirley C From UNITED STATES (PITTSBURGH) On 26/05/2011
 
Dear brother Mubashir regards,i remember once some Mullah raised objection against the interpretation of MARYAM by Dr QZ that Name can not be translated.Then Dr QZ gave the answer.I request you to send me the link plz.God bless you Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 26/05/2011
 
Aslamoalikum Mozam bhai would you please elaborate the terminology Al-Kitab?? Thanks Question by: ali.haideer From PAKISTAN (LARKANA) On 29/05/2011
 
Please Members What is the true story behind Ashaab e Kahaf, mentioned in soora e Kahaf. In orthodox interpretition these people sleeped in a cave for thousand of years, or something like this. Thanks Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 30/05/2011
 
Salam Dear Brothers Where may I find "Adam o Iblees" English translation of Dr. Zamans book? Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 31/05/2011
 
Salam Dear Brothers (Sisters included) and Aastana Administrators, Does the Quran give us a clear reason of WHY we are on planet Earth in human body and what we are here for? Please see comment below. Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 01/06/2011
 
Dear Brothers and Dr. Zaman, I've been beating myself up over this understanding of shirk or believing in a wrong concept of God. Yes I've read your understanding on this issue but there is a verse in Quran which warns those that say God is trinity Question by: Anwar From UNITED STATES On 02/06/2011
 
Kia app log Hadeeth ko nahi manty? kia app koi hawala hadeeth sy nahi detay. Mojzat ka to Hadeeth main bhi Ziker hay kia app mojzat ko nahi manty? Question by: guest From PAKISTAN On 05/06/2011
 
Dear Moazzam. I want to salute you for your hard work. I started learning Quran only 6 months back and I only started looking at AASTANA couple of weeks back. Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 05/06/2011
 
Dhulqarnain, Can we follow the injeel and Torah of today? Question by: Nargis-Badshah-Salamat From FIJI (FAUJI) On 06/06/2011
 
Tahir Ul Qadri Ne Murday Ko Kalima Padaya (urdu video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mfb6QriVh8 Question by: alam1162@gmail.com From INDIA (DELHI) On 14/06/2011
 
Dear Moazzam i have seen your recent post about Allah.I want to know Is Allah God or it means ISLAMIC STATE.Do you believe in a God who is FA'ALON LIMA YUREED.And what makes you not believe in a God who is an active fa'il? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 14/06/2011
 
dear moazzam DOES GOD EXISTS?And if he is not involved in the universe and i say HE IS DEAD.Will it be okay with you. Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 15/06/2011
 
Is the Sunnat of Allah Unchangeable? Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 15/06/2011
 
Dear brother Moazzam who authored the Quran according to you?Allah or Muhammad himself?Please do not go in details.Just tell me Allah or Muhammad that who is the author of the Quran.Best wishes!!! Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 18/06/2011
 
Dear Moazzam What is the meaning of " INNAHOO LAQUALOO RASOOLIN KAREEM " if the text of quran is from almighty Allah Question by: alam1162@gmail.com From INDIA (DELHI) On 19/06/2011
 
Dear Members,One group waiting for youm ul aakhira as life after death, other group said that youm ul aakhira will be happend in this world. Many people died waiting for this in this world. Are these two groups not in the same condition of waiting Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 20/06/2011
 
Dear All, Recently my uncle have a stoke and his right side is completely paralysed. He cant speak nor can comprehend.He is facing very hard days. What do you think, is he facing makafat e amal. Please comment Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 02/07/2011
 
HAS ALLAH, IN HIS QURAN, RULED ON THE EXPRESSION OF HUMAN SEXUAL BEHAVIOR OR IS MAN FREE TO DECIDE ON HIS OWN HOW TO EXPRESS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 08/07/2011
 
IS INCEST, AS A PARTICULAR SEXUAL BEHAVIOR, ALLAOWABLE OR NOT ALLOWABLE IN DEEN AL-ISLAM? IF ALLOWABLE, WHY? IF NOT ALLOWABLE, WHY NOT? PLEASE GIVE AYATS. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 09/07/2011
 
DR. QAMAR ZAMAN WROTE: "SO ACTUALLY THERE IS NOTHING TO BE CALLED PREMARITAL SEX". IS THIS ASSERTION, ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, TRUE?!? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 16/07/2011
 
NARGIS WROTE: THE ZANI IS SOMEONE WHO DISTORTS THE QURANIQ WORD. IS THIS ASSERTION, ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, TRUE? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 18/07/2011
 
who is allah Question by: hm.zeeshan On 19/07/2011
 
Does aya 57/3 justify/give meaning that Allah is beyond time and space? Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 20/07/2011
 
Is it true that Moses prayed for Aaron and Aaron became prophet. Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 21/07/2011
 
ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, IS THE UTTERING OF ALLAHU AKBAR, ACCEPTABLE IN THE DEEN OF ALLAH? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 21/07/2011
 
Mummy of Pharon in Egypt is the same pharon who clashes with Moses. ? Is it conforms from Quran? Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 23/07/2011
 
CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION---ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF--AKBAR? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 23/07/2011
 
Dear brother Moazzam if someone wants to understand the Quran and he is studying it for the first time.How should he study it?How he should attempt to understand a particular episode of the Quran.Thank you very much... Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 29/07/2011
 
Sahibaan, Lanati ka salaam Kia Quran paak main Roh amr Rabbi ke ilawa Rooh amr Allah bhi likha hai? In dono main kia farq hai? Question by: Universal-Lanati From ARMENIA On 30/07/2011
 
Dear Dr.Qamar and members. Please explain 21/53-60. and also 6/76-80 Were those idols made of stones? Didn't they used to worship كَوْكَبًا,الْقَمَرَ,الشَّمْسَ Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 01/08/2011
 
Dear Sir, It is being preached and commonly understood that Quranic guidance is eternal and everlasting for mankind during all eras. Whether any verse of Quran support this version ? if so , please quote reference of said verse . Thanks. Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 02/08/2011
 
Dear Sir, As per verse No.20 of Sura Al-Furqan(25) All , " Mursaleen;s" ate food and walk about in streets........... Why "Mursaleens;s" came to Seyedina Ibrahim ( who had to go towards "Qoum-e-Loot" , 51/32) denied to eat food from Ibrahim ? Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 02/08/2011
 
Dear Member, According to my new understanding I have left namaz,roza,Hajj. etc.Now what should I do according to Quran. How can I become a good Momin wothout these rituals. Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 02/08/2011
 
WAS THE PROPHET WHO WAS GIVEN THE QURAN...THE LAST PROPHET? YES OR NO AND PROVE EITHER POSITION. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 05/08/2011
 
IS AL-QURAN THE LAST/FINAL REVELATION FROM ALLAH? YES OR NO AND PROVE EITHER POSITION. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 05/08/2011
 
Salaamun Alikum Dear Aastana Members Please forgive me if I offends the spirit of aastana as I am going to ask few question which seems critical to me. Question by: mmkhan20 From SAUDI ARABIA (JEDDAH) On 08/08/2011
 
Dear Aurangzaib sb, Please explain the meanings of verse 37 of sura 41 Thanks Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 19/08/2011
 
IS AASTANA BLOG DEVOTED TO PHILOSOPHICAL MATERIALISM AND RELIGIOUS HUMANISM AND NOT AL-ISLAM? I'M BEGINNING TO BELIEVE SO. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 19/08/2011
 
Dear Sir, Please explain the meanings of verse 37 of sura 41 Thanks Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 20/08/2011
 
TRUE OR FALSE? 4:82 Will they not then meditate on the Quran? And if it were from any other than Allah, they would have FOUND IN IT MANY A DISCREPANCY. 10:37 And this the Quran...THERE IS NO DOUBT IN IT, from the Lord of the worlds. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 20/08/2011
 
Dear Moazzam,Dr QZ as you say Quran should be understood according to grammar.I have a question:All the Arabic grammars were written by IRANIS.Is there no possibility they have corrupted it like Ahadith?Thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 22/08/2011
 
43:45 And ask those of Our messengers whom We sent before thee: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the Beneficent? HOW COULD MUHAMMAD HAVE ASKED THE PRIOR MESSENGERS...ANYTHING? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 23/08/2011
 
Dear Zul-Qarnain. (with Two noons). You have repeatedly asserted on this blog that Surah Al-fatehaa is not part of the Al-Kitaab (Al-Quraan). Hereby I am humbly requesting you to produce your proof. (Read more in comments) Question by: Iqbal kay shaheen From NAMIBIA (WALVIS BAY) On 23/08/2011
 
TO ALL WHO IS THE "YOU" MENTIONED IN THE FOLLOWING AYAT? 2:4 And who believe in that which has been revealed to YOU and that which was revealed before YOU and they are sure of the hereafter. Question by: PRIEST BOKMEI From UNITED STATES On 24/08/2011
 
Dear Moazzam and Dr Qamar sahib Is the Phrase ALFE SHAHR MURAKAB E TOUSIFI or MURAKKABE ADADI?And what does it mean?Thanks Question by: bilal_khan5181 From PAKISTAN On 28/08/2011
 
Dear Dhulqurnain,Why Allah called Himself Al-Momin and Al-salaam in 59/23 Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 30/08/2011
 
Dear Dr. Q.Z sb. A questio as comments below. Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 30/08/2011
 
WHY ARE RACIAL SLURS TOWARD AFRICAN AMERICANS ACCEPTABLE AT AASTANA BLOG? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 31/08/2011
 
CHALLENGE! CHALLENGE! CHALENGE! CAN ANYONE NAME ONE PROPHET, ALONG WITH, AND SINCE THE DEATH OF THE PROPHET REFERRED TO AS MUHAMMAD? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 06/09/2011
 
NARGIS/AASTANA BLOG, PLEASE ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS CONCERNING AYATS 3:21 AND 33:40 Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 08/09/2011
 
NARGIS, MOAZZAM, WASEEMAMEER, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. GIVE US YOUR EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. NO MORE CONVOLUTED DISCOURSES. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 13/09/2011
 
WASEEMAMEER, WHAT IS THE TRUE MEANING OF 51:56? WHAT IS THE HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DHULQARNAIN AND AASTANA THAT NO WAY CAN THEY GATHER ON ONE PLATFORM? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 15/09/2011
 
Dear Dr.Qamar and members. Please explain the meaning of Moosa and Esa. At what paradigms ابواب they are at, and what meanings they give on those ابواب? Dear Dr.Sahab, your input will be highly appreciated. Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 16/09/2011
 
Is the Quran preaching BELIEVES ? I.E does it state anything in order to achieve unconfirmed belief in its students? 2) does it back up its claims with proofs, 3) HOW? Question by: Nargis2 From TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO (TOMBACCO) On 16/09/2011
 
NARGIS and MOAZZAM THERE HAS BEEN ALOT OF TALK ABOUT THE "GRAMMAR" RELATIVE TO AL-QURAN. MY QUESTION IS THIS, ISTHE GRAMMAR 100% ACCURATE? YES: EXPLAIN NO: EXPLAIN Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 17/09/2011
 
QAMAR, MOAZZAM, NARGIS, NAEEM, DOES QAMAR AND AASTANA BLOG BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING ASSERTIONS TO THE TRUTH? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 27/09/2011
 
Mr. Aurangzaib: Who is responsible for detracking me and many others who left Ramazan Fasting, Namaz especially after reading your booklet"tahqeeq namaz o salat"at Aastana? are you not an instable personality as per your shufling record?? Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 27/09/2011
 
NARGIS, MOAZZAM, WAQAR, NAEEM, ET ALL IS WAHY OR EXTRINSIC OR INTRINSIC? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 29/09/2011
 
MOAZZAM, NARGIS, NAEEM, MUBASHIR, WAQAR, YOU PEOPLE CANNOT POSSIBLY BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS....OR ARE YOU? PLEASE EXPLAIN! Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 30/09/2011
 
PEACE TO ALL, ACCORDING TO AL-QURAN, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF...A GOD" (I'M NOT REFERRING TO ALLAH, BUT THE TERM GOD IN GENERAL )? Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 02/10/2011
 
WHICH TAKES PRIORITY--TASREEF OVER GRAMMAR OR GRAMMAR OVER TASREEF? PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION. Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 03/10/2011
 
What is the position of Athiest in Quran? Will Athiesm be practiced/ let exist in the Quranic Society? What difference it will make if oneself is Athiest? Question by: waseemameer From AUSTRALIA (SYDNEY) On 05/10/2011
 
what the harm if someone perform rituals. Will Allah ask him why you did rituals. If one perform rituals and other dont then whats the difference they make on society. Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 09/10/2011
 
PEACE TO ALL, DOES AASTANA BLOG REPRESENT: DEEN AL-ISLAM OR... DEISM. DHULQARNAIN- Question by: ARCHILOCUS From UNITED STATES On 15/10/2011
 
Dear Sir, Please explain meanings of 27/42 to 44 Thanx Question by: M Aslam From PAKISTAN (GOJRA) On 30/11/2011
 
Dear sir, Please put some light on the death of Hazrat Hussain according to the history. and Dr sahib, we all are waiting for complete quranic translation Question by: matifsaeed From PAKISTAN (LAHORE) On 30/11/2011
 
PEACE NARGIS AND MOAZZAM. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THIS MAJOR CONTRADICTION: TELL US CLEARLY, IS YOUR POSITION STATEMENT "A" OR STATEMENT "B"? DHULQARNAIN- Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 01/12/2011
 
PEACE TO ALL, TO MY QUESTION: DO THE MALAIKA DO WRONG/EVIL? NAEEM SHEIKH ANSWERED: YES, SEE 2:34 IS HE CORRECT? DHULQARNAIN: Question by: DHULQARNAIN From UNITED STATES On 15/12/2011
 
WHY QURANISTS ARE DIVIDED LIKE RELIGIOUS MULLAHS IF THEY CLAIM THE RIGHTEOUS ONES ??? Question by: Mujeeb From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 01/02/2012
 
What do you guys think - Why some children around the world are born with defects like, blindness, handicapped, infected with acute diseases (HIV) etc., Why do they suffer their life for no fault of their own? Why does God do this them? Question by: sameermoopa From INDIA On 05/04/2012
 
Dear Members: Pls share ur thought on:'What is the 'purpose' of our existence?' Quran says 'And I didn't create the jinn and mankind except to do my IBADATH'(51:56). If this is the purpose, what does IBADATH mean here? Why God wants our Ibadath? Question by: sameermoopa From INDIA On 09/04/2012
 
can some one enlighten us about the real concept of SALAWATULLAH ALA NABI.Thanks. Question by: naeem sheikh From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 20/04/2012
 
Assaam,iam Nasir(India)iam understanding salah by your explanation tell me about vazu in surah maaida Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 26/04/2012
 
thank you a better answer that Salath is not namaz so what is reality of namaz how this exist Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 28/04/2012
 
assalam,was Allah speak with insan directly ? Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 04/05/2012
 
agar zina najayij talluq nahi tho najayij talluq ke baare me quran me kya hai? Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 15/05/2012
 
dea members. If someone do misdeeds(do wrong things) than he repent and ask toba, will he still have to suffer his misdeeds in this life. Question by: Saeed From PAKISTAN (KARACHI(MSAEEDTAJ@GMAIL.COM)) On 10/06/2012
 
respected qamar sir, what about here after life(Akhirath) in sight of quran? Question by: ameet From INDIA (ANANTAPUR) On 17/06/2012
 
Respected Dr Zaman. I am reading your translation of the Quran with great interest and I thank you for your efforts. I would like to understand the concept of Akhirat in light of the Quran. Salaam. Question by: Riaz From UNITED KINGDOM (LONDON) On 11/08/2012
 
If soam is not traditional "Roza" then why the later part of ayat relating to soam says that the women should complete the count after finishing with their menses? Question by: ansasausam From UNITED STATES (FLUSHING) On 27/10/2012
 
What is Shetan, can shetan affects the desire of Momin? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 11/12/2012
 
What "the Aastana research forum says about the Atheists ??? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 13/12/2012
 
What is the true sense of Duaa' mentioned at many places in Quran and been used as an effective tool in almost all religions? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 13/12/2012
 
salaam Dr sahib.pls explain the meaning of نسخ ? and 2:104? Question by: saidalavi ansari From INDIA (KERALA) On 17/12/2012
 
Salam Dr sahib pls Explain verse 2/106 مَا ننسخ من آية Question by: saidalavi ansari From INDIA (KERALA) On 19/12/2012
 
ABOUT EISA "death/up lifting to heaven" Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 01/04/2013
 
Some body asked about the meaning of سِقَايَةَ الْحَاجِّ وَعِمَارَةَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ . Here it is answer to the question asked. Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 23/04/2013
 
Some body asked that, how does it affect "the understanding of qura'an" as well practical life of people if Eisa borne with OR with out father???????? Question by: moazzam From PAKISTAN (ISLAMABAD) On 25/04/2013
 
Dr sahib salam pls pls pls explain 2:233 والوالدات يرضعن أولادهن.......................... Question by: saidalavi ansari From INDIA (KERALA) On 01/05/2013
 
who is muthllakth المطلَّقات Question by: saidalavi ansari From INDIA (KERALA) On 01/05/2013
 
Hijab Jilbaab/ by Moazzam Islam Question by: Nargis From BARBADOS (KIO BATAO?) On 18/06/2013
 
Respected Dr, Qamar Zaman sb some one says mostly the trad trans is what is written in Quran but what U r bringing is new verbal meanings of Words,why should we choose those words as Quran is Mubin and it explains itself.e.g what U describe of halal. Question by: shaista From PAKISTAN (LAHORE) On 08/12/2013
 
Kindly send Dr. Qamar Zaman's US phone number to me at AsarSyed@gmail.com Question by: Asarulislam From UNITED STATES (LOS ANGELES) On 12/06/2014
 
I wrote many times in the form on the site, but no one answers. So, I have a translation of the book "THE TRUTH ABOUT SALAT. Dr. Qamar Zaman" to Russian. Do you want to put it on the site? Question by: onlyquran01 From RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUSSIA) On 04/07/2014
 
Respected Aastana team, please could you kindly point me to the surah and ayat number of the two ayats referenced on page 9 & 10 of Sarchashma Hidayat sirf Al Quran? Thanks in advance for your assistance. Question by: Riaz From UNITED KINGDOM (LONDON) On 27/12/2014
 
Aoa, dear aastana members can you kindly translate surah ikhlaas exposing its main theme Question by: Abdul Hadi Saqib From PAKISTAN (LAHORE) On 14/03/2015
 
مسلمانوں کی نمازوں کے زرتشتی ماخظ Dowanload Question by: Adnan From PAKISTAN On 17/04/2015
 
i have asked two questions please Dr Q z sab post my 2nd question in this blog too. if it is not possible to post it here. then please reply to me via email. as i am really confused about the soum. why ghulam ahmed perwez sab couldn't explain? Question by: kanju swat From UNITED KINGDOM (LONDON) On 11/11/2015
 
aap jo quran ki wazahat karte hein 'kia aap khuda(god) per yaqeen(belief) rakhte hein? oor han(yes)! to aap ka aqeda(belief) kia hai? Question by: sufyanarif From PAKISTAN On 21/12/2015
 
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