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TRANSLATION OF QURAN
BY DR. QAMAR ZAMAN
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1-286 البَقَرَة -2
1-200 آل عِمرَان -3
1-176 النِّسَاء -4
1-120 المَائدة -5
1-165 الاٴنعَام -6
1-206 الاٴعرَاف -7
1-75 الاٴنفَال -8
1-129 التّوبَة -9
1-109 یُونس -10
1-123 هُود -11
1-111 یُوسُف -12
1-43 الرّعد -13
1-52 إبراهیم -14
1-99 الحِجر -15
1-128 النّحل -16
1-111 بنیٓ اسرآئیل / الإسرَاء -17
1-110 الکهف -18
1-98 مَریَم -19
1-135 طٰه -20
1-112 الاٴنبیَاء -21
1-78 الحَجّ -22
1-118 المؤمنون -23
1-64 النُّور -24
1-77 الفُرقان -25
1-227 الشُّعَرَاء -26
1-93 النَّمل -27
1-88 القَصَص -28
1-69 العَنکبوت -29
1-60 الرُّوم -30
1-34 لقمَان -31
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1-73 الاٴحزَاب -33
1-54 سَبَإ -34
1-45 فَاطِر -35
1-83 یسٓ -36
1-182 الصَّافات -37
1-88 صٓ -38
1-75 الزُّمَر -39
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If UN is being operated under the "declaration of human rights" which resembles with Allah's/Divine message,(vet by Alkitab). Will the UNITED NATION be called Islamic organization,could Muslim Ummah recognize its members as their Muslim brothers?  
Add Your Comments  Question by: NAEEM SHEIKH On 14 September 2011
Comments by: moazzam On 14 September 2011
YES, all peace providers/peace lovers are your brothers.  
As far as your second part of Question is concern, If UN members ask the same question to so called Muslim Ummah( in present perspective of anarchy) what should be the reply?

Comments by: waseemameer On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
Dear Moazzam,  
Even though UN charter states/focuses on the human rights, we must first understand/research whether UN has fulfilled/operated under the said charter. On the actual ground, they may be under the hands/influence of those controling the world, the so called GLOBALISTS  
Quran does recognize the objective , but it also reconizes the results of those deeds/ACTIONS,whereas we can see no such outcomes in the presence of UN.

Comments by: Nargis-Badshah-Salamat On 15 September 2011Report Abuse

Dear Waseem,Then the same thing can be said about the Quran, which also recognize the results of those deeds/ Actions it mention ,,,but we can see no such outcomes in the presence of the Quran in the so called Muslim countries.  
 
Brother Moazzam pointed out the peace providing or loving human beings all over the world. Those who work to establish peace for the humanity are all Muslims Momins. The UN charter is another thing, and how much the countries fulfill it, is another thing. No matter what, these countries are one or two steps ahead, in comparison to our "Peace God Rusool loving countries".  
 
So the UN charter is promoting human rights, but not fully implemented. It is interesting to note that UN charter based on the ideology given in the Quran, equality and equal opportunities etc, but where we have the Quran-, like in Pak Sar Zameen, we have the blasphemy law and half share of inheritance stuff. we don't have such rules in Norway.....  
 
The point is, that anyone who recognize peace and want to establish equality, is our brothers and sisters.


Comments by: waseemameer On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
Sister Nargis,  
 
I agreed with what you said. But it is a huge responsibility of accepting them as part of Quranic movements. Quran does not seperate the results with the actions. An action without results is nothing.  
 
The so called Muslims never gathered at one platform, so they are not fulfilling the first part i.e actinon, so no way they would get those results. But UN is claiming to serve Humanity, but not producing those results.  
 
Any person/organization claiming to serve Humanity, and not producing results cannot be MOMIN or Peace Providers.  
 
Do you as part of AASTANA want to seperate actions with results?  
if not, than AASTANA and UN is at different missions  

Comments by: moazzam On 15 September 2011
Dear participants, Brother Waseemamir!  
Question: It is a huge responsibility of accepting them (the HRD) as part of Quranic movements. Quran does not separate the results with the actions. An action without results is nothing.  
Moazzam: I mean you just replace each HRD article with relevant Verses of Quran, if it matches in its sense.  
Question: The so called Muslims never gathered at one platform, so they are not fulfilling the first part i.e actinon, so no way they would get those results.  
Moazzam: The so called Muslims changed the sense of Quran ie the human right to futile rituals(hajj,salat, zakat,saom,all hala o haram written in Quran, all most all terminologies), their translations/interpretations are “ANTI QURAN” .So they are not fulfilling any part neither action nor results.  
Question: But UN is claiming to serve Humanity, but not producing those results.  
Moazzam: Yes, UN is claiming first part that is vet by Quran, as far as the out come/results are concerns, no doubt there is much room to improve by appropriate execution. All members are equally responsible including so called Muslims. I assure you and data could be witnessed, that major portion of donations comes from west (so called none Muslims), and so called Muslims elite enjoy instead of properly distributing the UN aids among their needy (downtrodden).  
Question: Any person/organization claiming to serve Humanity, and not producing results cannot be MOMIN or Peace Providers.  
Moazzam: Consider the better one after comparing both sides (under discussion ie UN vs So called Muslim Ummah)  
Question: Do you as part of AASTANA want to separate actions with results?  
if not, than AASTANA and UN is at different missions  
Moazzam: No not at all, the divine message (Alkitab) repeatedly emphasis at MAKAFAT E AMAL (yaum al akhirah), ie every cause and action yield due end-results. Therefore AASTANA wants to fill the gapes of deficiencies, loop holes, all sort of short comings in its charter and its execution, to make it more effective and beneficiate for MANKIND AT LARGE (this is the message of Alkitab as well).So we 100 % support The each and every HRD clause written in UN charter, in your sight, if there is any ANTI QURANIC clause, you are welcome to point out it, we will reconsider our views in that regard.  
 

Comments by: waseemameer On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
Moazzam,Nargis  
 
What I want to point out is that  
 
AASTANA is an institution, which educate people with true sense of laws of nature/Al-kitab and their respective results  
 
UN claims to be an organization, having some laws(even if they are somewhat same as Al-kitab), but failed to implement them.  
 
No way the above two can be same. If AASTANA was to be an organization responsbile for implementing laws, I would declare AASTANA non-islamic.  
 
Authority is needed to become an inslamic organization, which UN doesn't have. Just words no actions.

Comments by: moazzam On 15 September 2011
Brother Waseemameer ! You are right in your stance that, a Muslim/Momin must be recognize with his behavior/conduct, whether is a single identity or an organizations.  
Please,see my answer in perception of comparative NOT in absolute in case of UN (HRD) vs so called MUSLIM UMMAH.  
Thanks.

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
Dear Waseemameer, please follow below link for little info on UN...  
 
http://aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?QID=610  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: naeem sheikh On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
Brother Moazzam, Aastana members! Please elaborate about the following verses, When this time will come or expected to come?إِ  
وَرَأَيْتَ النَّاسَ يَدْخُلُونَ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ أَفْوَاجًا ,ذَا جَاءَ نَصْرُ اللَّهِ وَالْفَتْحُ  
 
 

Comments by: Junaid On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
Salaam;  
 
Although I have decided not to participate in any discussions but this particular topic forced me to re-consider my decision and to share my views for one last time. In fact the discussion and the comments I have seen so far on this particular topic, is more than satisfactory enough for me to consider that the decision I took regarding not to participate on this blog was actually the right decision.  
I am quite surprised how the senior members of aastana have inferred, that UN charter and Quran are based on the same basic elements, and that too without doing any research whatsoever, regarding what this UN (the replacement of League of Nations) actually is and who were the people who created league of nations and later on the UN with it's subsidiaries, the IMF, the economic and development wing, the Health wing and the Security Council. An inference based on XXXXXX vision, without backed up by any research, leads nowhere but towards conjecture.  
 
Has anyone done the extensive research on the the history, the origin and formation of UN?  
Has anyone done some research on the people who brought up this idea of creating such organizations?  
Has anyone thought for a single moment before equating the charter of Pharaohs with Al-Kitaab?  
Has anyone thought about defining a practical design with the help of Divine instructions, instead of discussing Quranic words only theoretically and to an extent of Ad nauseam OR instead of following man-made sophistry?  
 
The answer is a big NO!!!  
 
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Having said that, I must admit that I am very impressed with the way brother Waseem is resisting against accepting deception and sophistry to be equivalent to Quran. This is the way a researcher, a truth seeker should react when he sees conjecture being preached.  
 
The empire of satan, the Lucifer has been erected on two basic concepts i.e deception, and sophistry (superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning). As a matter of fact, the elites are much more organized and much more advanced in their strategies and plans. They already know that the masses can no more be controlled by use of force as happened in the past, starting from the ancient Empires until World War 2. The only means to control the masses nowadays is to keep their minds illusion-ed and to make slavery appear as freedom.  
The usage of words like FREEDOM, LIBERTY, JUSTICE, EQUALITY etc. is a part of the same plan which is based on nothing but deception and sophistry. No organization or no individual can attract masses and gain their attention without using the words like JUSTICE, EQUALITY, FREEDOM, LIBERTY, PROSPERITY, and WELFARE.  
It needs a lot of research and a lot of hard work to understand the real agenda behind such sophistry where beautiful words are used to mislead masses towards a direction leading to slavery. A process where slaves are made to think that they are actually being liberated but in reality, they are being enslaved, getting confined within unseen walls of deception. The elites and their agents use words like equality, rights, liberty but they portray a totally different meaning for these concepts, without letting people realize how they have altered the meanings of these words.  
 
Liberty, a concept human beings acting according to their freewill and accepting responsibility of their actions has been converted into restricted actions defined within the legislation and abiding by the man made laws created by entities called Governments.  
Freedom has been confined to a thought within a framework defined by Pharaohs.  
Equality has been restricted to limited groups rather than being practiced generally.  
Justice has been re-defined as a delayed procedure being dictated by power and influence.  
 
Yes it is true that UN, it's predecessor the League of Nations, it's subsidiaries the WHO, the IMF, the Security Council, it's military wing and it's charter is a set of deception invented by the elites, leading the earth towards a one World Government, and the biggest evidence is the set of individuals who initiated this idea. Please do some research on the history and Origin of UN and do some work to find out who created this organization. The involvement of Queen, the Vatican Pope, president Franklin D. Roosevelt, the International Bankers, the Rothschild's the Rockefeller's and many corporate giants, is evident enough to prove that the exploiters cannot invent anything without an agenda which is kept secret. The charter is written in such a way that it can always be exploited by the elites and in fact it is being exploited. No justice, no equality, no right of freedom is talked about when African nations are suffering with hunger, exploitation and poverty. No right is there for People of Palestine of Kashmeer and no scales of equality are there for Libiya and other Arab Nations. This is all because the contents are completely exploitable, yet people have gone to such an extent that they are comparing these contents with Al-Kitaab.  
 
This psychological deception is being used by the so called "elites' since last many decades and the sheeple, living in the lowest layer of Human Pyramid have been brainwashed to such an extent that they are now defending this sophistry to the best of their abilities. In fact I can see that few Quranist have gone to such an extent that they are now comparing Quran with this man-made set of laws invented by elites and Pharaohs, and clearly challenging the words of Quran;  
 
وَإِن كُنتُمْ فِي رَيْبٍ مِّمَّا نَزَّلْنَا عَلَىٰ عَبْدِنَا فَأْتُوا بِسُورَةٍ مِّن مِّثْلِهِ وَادْعُوا شُهَدَاءَكُم مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ (2:23  
اور اگر تم کو اس کتاب میں جو ہم نے اپنے بندے پر پیش کی ہے کوئی شک ہے تو اپنے ساتھیوں کو بلاؤاور قوانین قدرت کے علاوہ کسی ایک حکم کے مثل لے آؤ اگر کہ تم سچ کر دکھانے والے ہو۔  
 
أَمْ يَقُولُونَ ٱفْتَرَىٰهُ قُلْ فَأْتُو۟ا بِسُورَةٍ مِّثْلِهِ وۦَٱدْعُو۟ا مَنِ ٱسْتَطَعْتُم مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ صَٰدِقِينَ (10:38  
 
أَمْ يَقُولُونَ ٱفْتَرَىٰهُ قُلْ فَأْتُو۟ا بِعَشْرِ سُوَرٍ مِّثْلِهِ مۦُفْتَرَيَٰتٍ وَٱدْعُو۟ا مَنِ ٱسْتَطَعْتُم مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ صَٰدِقِينَ (11:13  
 
قُل لَّئِنِ ٱجْتَمَعَتِ ٱلْإِنسُ وَٱلْجِنُّ عَلَىٰٓ أَن يَأْتُو۟ا بِمِثْلِ هَٰذَا ٱلْقُرْءَانِ لَا يَأْتُونَ بِمِثْلِهِ وۦَلَوْ كَانَ بَعْضُهُمْ لِبَعْضٍ ظَهِيرًا (17:88  
 
In the end I must say that Quran has provided us sets of values, sets of instruction and specific Do's and Don'ts and is clearly instructing us to define our systems according to our eras after due research and due investigation.  
The Quranist must try and involve themselves in a process of thorough research and should broaden up their vision in order to understand the sophistry of Pharaohs and in order to design a practically implementable model of Divine system. Running after man-made systems based on deception and comparing them to Quran is a pointless exercise, therefore true Quranist must avoid such things.  
 
NOTE: My words were meant for those who can still think and I don't mean to get involved in any further debate with any narrow minded individual who has not done enough research on the relevant topic. I request the readers to develop a habit of doing their own research before accepting any stance from the members which is based on hypothesis or conjecture. Also please start thinking about defining a practical design using the divine instructions instead of wasting your time in discussing the words again and again. I think a lot of readers are now familiar with the real concepts behind Quranic terms and it's time for them to come forward and start discussing some practical aspects.  
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE DECEPTION OF THE FOLLOWERS OF LUCIFER, THE PHARAOHS! AND DON'T GET DECEIVED. WE HAVE OUR OWN CONSTITUTION, OUR OWN LEGISLATION, OUR OWN CHARTER OF HUMAN RIGHTS, OUR OWN BOOK OF LAW AND OUR OWN CONCEPT OF LIBERTY, JUSTICE AND EQUALITY. WE NEED NO MAN-MADE CHARTER.  
 
 
DEAR NAEEM SHEIKH: The time will not come automatically, rather the followers of divine ideology will have to initiate the struggle at some point of time. It is now up to you whether to initiate the struggle or to follow the deception of elites without challenging their system. It is up to you whether to enter into دِينِ اللَّهِ أَفْوَاجًا OR the army of Lucifer lead by the elites.  
 
You asked the following Question:
 
 
If UN is being operated under the "declaration of human rights" which resembles with Allah's/Divine message,(vet by Alkitab). Will the UNITED NATION be called Islamic organization,could Muslim Ummah recognize its members as their Muslim brothers?  
 
The answer has been given in the verses I have quoted above and the truth will always remain truth no matter how ignorant we remain. The UN has been created by the followers of Satan, the Lucifer and the agenda behind creation of this organization and it's subsidiaries is nothing but "ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT" controlled by elites, their banks, their corporations and their occult societies.  
 
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe  

Comments by: Universal-Lanati On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
is the CONTENT of UN charter against the Quranic teaching of equality and human right?  
 
Is a person who work for human rights, or a peace lover, going against the Quranic teaching of equality?  

Comments by: moazzam On 15 September 2011
Brother Junaid! I talked abuot the commonalities betweenQuranic core message of human rights (relevant Quranic verses) and any person/orgonization NGOs approach to protect human rights. I especially focussed at 30 articles of "UNIVERSAL DECLERATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS" indicated in UN charter( not the whole charter). Read the link again.http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?QID=1753#COM9002  
I also asked to point out any anti quranic article among the said quoted 30 DHR, so that i may review my version.  
I agree what demarits you pointed out for UN,but i also know what is being happened in Muslim world's govening regime including their holiplaces as well.I just dare to compare both of them.  
I HOPE THIS ALKITAB WILL DOMINATE REST OF ALL CHARTERS/COSTITUTION/DECLERATIONS, SURE, IT WILL DOMINATE, IF ALL PEACE LOVERS/PEACE PROVIDERS WILL JOIN THEIR HANDS FOR THE SAME CAUSE. THE MANKIND WILL REACH AT ITS DESTINATION(SOLVATION) VERY SOON.

Comments by: Junaid On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
Universal lanati, as I have already said that in order to understand the deception and sophistry hidden behind the charter, you will need a broader vision and an extensive research. Without a proper vision, you will keep on considering the UN charter, the sophistry of words in accordance with Quran and you will keep considering the elites as advocates of Human rights and peace. In fact this is not your fault because you have kept your focus on playing with fake IDs and running after the words instead of doing research on the system being practiced currently and inviting people to broader aspects of research. I think it's totally pointless to discuss these things with you at least because when an individual, totally illusion-ed by mental slavery tries to advocate slavery itself as a form freedom OR when the slave gets to a stage where he defends starts considering the exploitation and aggression as generosity and peace, then no person and no ideology can change his/her mind.  
In fact you should have asked this question where you equated UN Charter with Quran, using your original ID XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  
 
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Brother Moazzam, as I said that you will have to go through the contents keeping in mind the true history of the origin of this organization and the history of people who created the so called "Charter of Human rights". For that you will have to spend some time to understand whats actually going on in the world around us. I hope an extensive research will give you a better understanding about the words used in UN Charter. This is just a game of words and you will understand the tricks of trade only through research.  
 
I could have discussed each point with you here on the forum but I don't want to force my understanding on others, rather I want them to make some efforts to understand things on their own. It is our duty to pass on information to the readers after a due process of research and analysis and not to jump to any conclusions in a hurry. The doctrine of Lucifer and the Roman Catholics, the Vatican's has too many flaws and therefore it stands nowhere near the true Divine message. You only need the proper consciousness to identify these flaws.  
 
My apologies if you find my words a bit aggressive.  

Comments by: DHULQARNAIN On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
***JUNAID: The answer has been given in the verses I have quoted above and the truth will always remain truth no matter how ignorant we remain. The UN has been created by the followers of Satan, the Lucifer and the agenda behind creation of this organization and it's subsidiaries is nothing but "ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT" controlled by elites, their banks, their corporations and their occult societies. "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe***  
 
Well, you've got this right.  
 
Something for your consideration:  
 
http://www.newswithviews.com/Veon/joan48.htm  
 
http://www.newswithviews.com/Veon/joan170.htm  
 
The mindset of the UN;  
 
http://www.newswithviews.com/Collins/phillip10.htm  
 
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Dhulqarnain- :D

Comments by: Junaid On 15 September 2011Report Abuse
Dhulqarnain, Thank you for the links you shared. However I must say that I really didn't like your unnecessary sarcastic remarks for Brother Moazzam in the end. I wonder why you are wasting your time in pointless debates and all this Ad nauseam, instead of thinking about the ways of saving yourself and your next generations from the evil forces and their plans when you already know the agenda of satan and why you are not resisting when you have got the shield of Al-Kitaab in your hands.  
 
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Brother Moazzam, I hope you do remember that I have asked several questions on this blog, based on the topics of governance, politics and economics. The sole purpose behind those questions was to provoke a thought process and make the readers think and discuss the possible alternate options regarding governance and socio-economy keeping in view the laws of nature and natural human instincts.  
 
It is imperative for us to understand that the concepts of natural laws, natural human behavior in terms of social or public union and natural human inclination towards economic dealing. What I mean to say is that the natural way of interaction between human beings in almost every aspect is much different than that being practiced currently and our visions are restricted only to the system of social interaction, economics and governance we see around us today. Our concepts of state, society, union, organization and economy are confined to limited boundaries built around us by the society under influence of elites. Following the true basic human instinct or the freewill is much different than following man-made laws that surrounds us today.  
 
In fact we have all seen the translation of 2:03 which says متقی وہ لوگ ہیں جو قدرت کے پیمانوں کے ذریعے امن قائم کرتے ہی and we have seen the words like نظام ربوبیت , قوانین قدرت, اقدار الہی and مملکت خداداد in several verses. You yourself have used the words "MUKAFAAT E AMAL" several times in your comments but no one has actually tried to understand what are these scales of nature and when MUKAFAAT E AMAL becomes applicable in human life.  
 
These words cannot be understood properly unless we are truly aware of the concepts of natural laws, the natural form of human societies and states, the natural form of economic system based on natural needs and wants, as well as the natural form of governance where certain limits are defined and these limits must not be transgressed.  
In order to comprehend this system, one will have to expand his/her vision and his research and only then he/she would be able to reach an understanding regarding the natural laws which are hidden from our eyes for now.  
Why these laws are hidden? Because we are not trying to look beyond a set of man-made concepts defined by the so called educationists, the economists, the politicians, the entities like corporations and governments, the courts of law, the constitutions and the society itself.  
 
There are many professionals, many scholars who have defined various alternate concepts, but unfortunately these concepts and these ideas were never allowed to reached the masses. Those who applied their abilities, their potentials and their hard-work in defining or identifying these alternate systems were punished severely by the elites and their work was never recognized. These people were completely sidelined by the mainstream media, the mainstream education system and the mainstream politics, governance and economics.  
If you try and concentrate on the work of these individuals and if you think on the ideas presented by them, you will surely be able to understand the deception and sophistry behind the word game being played by elites to fool the masses. The words which looks very attractive to our eyes, the words which sounds pleasant to our ears and which seems enchanting to our minds, actually negates the natural form of human interactions and the natural laws. Trust me, you will understand what I am saying if you start thinking and start looking at things with an open mind and enhance your research beyond the boundaries stretched around us by the unseen forces. Please try and understand the deception, the sophistry of the evil forces and start putting up the resistance with the help of your enhanced consciousness.  
 
Please concentrate on the following verses;  
مِن شَرِّ ٱلْوَسْوَاسِ ٱلْخَنَّاسِ  
ٱلَّذِى يُوَسْوِسُ فِى صُدُورِ ٱلنَّاسِ  
مِنَ ٱلْجِنَّةِ وَٱلنَّاسِ  
 
I have got no rights to force you therefore I cannot force you to enhance your vision. All I can do is to request you and assist you if you are really looking for the knowledge beyond unseen boundaries. We can discuss things and we can all learn this way. I can assure you that this knowledge will help you to interpret and to define a practical design based on Al-Kitaab.
 
 
Having said that I would like to end my short conversation on this topic. I am sure you do have my Email address, so if you are willing to learn and discuss things from the real perspective, if you are willing to enhance your vision with proper research and analysis, you can always invite me back to the forum whenever you are ready.

Comments by: Maniza On 15 September 2011
Salam,  
 
Although it was a very important topic, unfortunately some got carried away and used sarcasm and bigotry to make their own points.  
 
those that live in glass houses should not throw stones,

Comments by: waseemameer On 16 September 2011Report Abuse
Members  
 
Brother Junaid concerns are not different from AASTANA. The only difference is that brother Junaid is looking one step further , and want to discuss the practicality of Quranic terminologies. We can very easily say" Work done by AASTANA will be helpfull for next generation to bring Revolution"  
 
but if every generation keep doing this way, this so called Revolution will not gonna come until the Elites, the Globalists get the full controll of the world. We than will be just human toy in their hands( which we are at the moment as well)  
 
25/73 justifies brother Junaid's position, on the research attitude of everything, even if it resembles with laws of Al-kitab.  
 
I request all members, to note to think brother Junaid as sarcastic, but have a look at his words. He is no different from AASTANA. Infact he is "Ibn-e-AASTANA"

Comments by: Nargis2 On 16 September 2011Report Abuse

I also asked to point out any anti quranic article among the said quoted 30 DHR, so that i may review my version.  
I agree what demarits you pointed out for UN,but i also know what is being happened in Muslim world's govening regime including their holiplaces as well.I just dare to compare both of them.  
I HOPE THIS ALKITAB WILL DOMINATE REST OF ALL CHARTERS/COSTITUTION/DECLERATIONS, SURE, IT WILL DOMINATE, IF ALL PEACE LOVERS/PEACE PROVIDERS WILL JOIN THEIR HANDS FOR THE SAME CAUSE. THE MANKIND WILL REACH AT ITS DESTINATION(SOLVATION) VERY SOON.Brother Moazzam

Thank you brother Moazzam, don't think there is any need to say more than that. If they can't understand this, then they won't understand other arguments in relation to this topic. Most of the times it is enough to say something only once, the one who want to understand it will get it the first time.

You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist

I fully agree with you

. Brother Naeem Sheikh, would you please share your thoughts about brother Moazzam's question?

:- If UN members ask the same question to so called Muslim Ummah( in present perspective of anarchy) what should be the reply?


Comments by: naeem sheikh On 16 September 2011Report Abuse
Brother Moazzam, Sister Nargis , and All participants ! Thank you Brother Moazzam; "I also asked to point out any anti quranic article among the said quoted 30 DHR, so that i may review my version"  
In fact i, did not find even single article out of 30 "UNIVERSL DECLERATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS" which is against Alkitab.  
This is also correct that we the Muslim Ummah are not in position to invite UN/West at ALKITAB due to the same reasons (attitude) of HAMAAN/FIRAON/QAROON of the Muslim world , same as you quoted for UN ELITES.  
is there any better solution except to come and join hands at commonality (as brother Moazzam pointed out).

Comments by: moazzam On 16 September 2011 Edit Delete
Brother Naeem Sheikh! your question that"Please elaborate about the following verses, When this time will come or expected to come?إِ  
وَرَأَيْتَ النَّاسَ يَدْخُلُونَ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ أَفْوَاجًا ,ذَا جَاءَ نَصْرُ اللَّهِ وَالْفَتْحُ  
 
The first part of the Surah Alfath إِذَا جَاءَ نَصْرُ اللَّهِ وَالْفَتْحُ , وَرَأَيْتَ النَّاسَ يَدْخُلُونَ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ أَفْوَاجً , describe the trend of general public, that, in the confrontation of Haq o Batil,when due course of victory be completed by Jamaat al momineen the majority of people would follow the DEEN ALLAH (through it state).  
The 2nd part of the surah describes the lenient attitude of forgiveness with different new joining group entered in Islam. The state determination to implement and execute the Allah’s system of Rabobiyat in its true spirit also been described.  
 
نَصْرُ اللَّهِ = the sense of NASARULLAH could be comprehended by reading the verses 3/123,9/25, with their context, where strong conflicts (MAARKA E HAQ O BATILL) has intensively described. Also the appropriate time /scenario when نَصْرُ اللَّهِ comes has clearly described in verses 2/214,12/11, in fact this is the period when utmost struggle from Momineen’s end (with due course of procedure) has been carried out.That is Momineen have to fulfill all the requirements of due procedure( verse 47/7).  
 
الْفَتْحُ = the sense of this term could be comprehended by pondering into the following verses 48/1-18,8/19,32/28, here also the domination of Haq over Batill after long struggle of Momineen in MAARKA E HAQQ O BATILL has been described, remember there is very important link between NASRULLAH and FATH.  

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