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TRANSLATION OF QURAN
BY DR. QAMAR ZAMAN
Translation Status
آیات
سورۃ
نمبر
1-7 الفَاتِحَة -1
1-286 البَقَرَة -2
1-200 آل عِمرَان -3
1-176 النِّسَاء -4
1-120 المَائدة -5
1-165 الاٴنعَام -6
1-206 الاٴعرَاف -7
1-75 الاٴنفَال -8
1-129 التّوبَة -9
1-109 یُونس -10
1-123 هُود -11
1-111 یُوسُف -12
1-43 الرّعد -13
1-52 إبراهیم -14
1-99 الحِجر -15
1-128 النّحل -16
1-111 بنیٓ اسرآئیل / الإسرَاء -17
1-110 الکهف -18
1-98 مَریَم -19
1-135 طٰه -20
1-112 الاٴنبیَاء -21
1-78 الحَجّ -22
1-118 المؤمنون -23
1-64 النُّور -24
1-77 الفُرقان -25
1-227 الشُّعَرَاء -26
1-93 النَّمل -27
1-88 القَصَص -28
1-69 العَنکبوت -29
1-60 الرُّوم -30
1-34 لقمَان -31
1-30 السَّجدَة -32
1-73 الاٴحزَاب -33
1-54 سَبَإ -34
1-45 فَاطِر -35
1-83 یسٓ -36
1-182 الصَّافات -37
1-88 صٓ -38
1-75 الزُّمَر -39
1-85 المؤمن / غَافر -40
1-54 حٰمٓ السجدة / فُصّلَت -41
1-54 القَمَر -54
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Dr. Qamar Zaman's new article "آستانہ کے مسلمہ عقائد بحوالہ دین اللہ کی مادیت سازی" is uploaded now.
Add Your Comments  Question by: ADNAN On 07 December 2011
Comments by: Iqbal kay shaheen On 07 December 2011Report Abuse
Salam Adnan  
 
How do i get it to open fully? you may have forgotten/missed some link/attachments.  
Please help! I am unable to download or be able to access the whole material.  
 
Thanks in advance.

Comments by: Adnan On 08 December 2011
Sorry for inconvenience, Now link is updated please click on this link http://www.aastana.com/URDU/viewer.asp?id=61

Comments by: Adnan Muhammad Khan On 17 December 2011
http://www.ourbeacon.com/cgi-bin/bbs60x/webbbs_config.pl/page/1/md/read/id/314123119172361  
Dr. Sb. kindly look into it.

Comments by: moazzam On 17 December 2011
 
Raja Hamza: Is it true that there is no life after death ? Because Dr Qamar says, Quran doesn't talk about the life after death it just talks about This life and its laws and rules and regulations. There is no Qayamat no Life after death no hisab kitab.  
Moazzam: Remember, quran speaks about Life after death called “ AKHIRAH (the ultimate end)”which is none comprehendible to us and details are not provided in quran as well. There, all the man kind will individually (19/80,95) be accountable intensively 99/7-8 فَمَن يَعْمَلْ مِثْقَالَ ذَرَّةٍ خَيْرًا يَرَهُ , وَمَن يَعْمَلْ مِثْقَالَ ذَرَّةٍ شَرًّا يَرَهُ .  
As Al-kitab(Quran) is the guide book for life before death, therefore the results of each good or bad deed must be visible in this life too which has also been called in quranic term “AKHIRAH”. So that, people may become more firm in the processed results of causes and effects (makafat e amal), therefore, people will adopt the due course of procedure to get their desire results.You are advised to go through the article “ASSAA’ “written by Dr. Qamarzaman available at the given link. http://www.aastana.com/urdu/viewer.asp?t=A&id=56  
Raja Hamza: And if he is proving it with logic and from the grammatical ways what should we do to prove him wrong ?  
Moazzam: dear brother, if, the term “ AKHIRAH” is being utilised in quran to express the sense of “end results of our deeds” in this life, which has also been proven by observing the context of the subjects, with logic, by applying appropriate grammatical rules and lexicon. Then why we have to put our energy to prove it wrong.  
Raja Hamza: Because our whole building of faith and Imaan is built on the belief of Life After Death !  
Moazzam: Yes the whole building of almost all religion including so called Islam is on the basis of some dogmas, belief, to perform some sort of futile rituals.  
Whereas, Aastan.com’s fundamental goal is to explore and discover the original logic, reason, rationality and wisdom of Quranic constitution that can be intellectually and empirically established in this scientifically advanced world. And to set it free from myth, miracles, fantasies, superstitions, dogmas and rituals.  
Dr.Shabbir:This man QZ is trying to write his own Qur'an. His Arabic is poor and English pathetic. A few gullible people have fallen into his trap.  
Beware  

Comments by: Nargis On 17 December 2011Report Abuse

Anyone can say anything, but to back up their claims with references and proofs, that's the real thing. Otherwise Bokhari and co have said so many things for years :-S --- To say someone have "poor" Arabic and not refer to even one word which is "poorly" translated, is what we call poor. I have just sent Dr Qamar Zaman translation to UK, and everyone who have been asking questions, got their answers, whereas Ourbeacon NEVER explained what saum is  
 
Hypocrisy is a curse and the affected one will never contribute for a change in the universe, but suffer unproductivity as a jealous bystander !!!!!.


Comments by: Nargis2 On 17 December 2011Report Abuse

these "aitrazaat" are sent to me by Hamza raja on Facebook

 
 
wah Aitraaz number 3 ka jawab kiya khoob diya hai Dr Qamar Zaman ne, wahh.... Does it make sense to you ?  
wohi gissi pitti baat jiska jawab aurengzeb ne diya uska jawaab dene ki bajae apni pehle wali baat hi phir se dohra rahe hain Dr QZ sahab  
aur hawale aitraaz number 4 main allama masood ki book kay , kehte hain k main Quran aur uski grammar se bahir nae jata, lakin hawale allama masood ki book kay  
 
Aitraaz number 5 main , Gheb kay maine = Qudrat kay Peemane hain  
yani kay 7:188 main kaha ja raha hai k Rasool Qudrat kay Peemanoo ko samjhta nahi, aur oper se ye daleel di jati hai Surah Fatiha main Dr Qamar Zaman ki traf se kay us Rasool ne bohat ghoor-o-fikar kay sath qudrat ko samjha phir ye kitab likhi. Ye contradiction nahi kia ?

Comments by: Nargis2 On 17 December 2011Report Abuse

AlGhayb  
 
Meanwhile, you can rad this  
 
http://www.aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?QID=1366  
Please consolidate the verses 10/20, 6/59, 3/179 to know the meaning of الْغَيْبِ “ALGHAIB”.  
Then see the verses where word آيَةٌcomes, which clearly describe the befitted meaning as قدرت کے پیمانوں  
 
 
الْغَيْبِ = آيَةٌ = إِنَّ فِي خَلْقِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَاخْتِلاَفِ اللَّيْلِ وَالنَّهَارِ لَآيَاتٍ لِّأُوْلِي الْأَلْبَابِ  
 
إِنَّ فِي خَلْقِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ وَاخْتِلاَفِ اللَّيْلِ وَالنَّهَارِ وَالْفُلْكِ الَّتِي تَجْرِي فِي الْبَحْرِ بِمَا يَنفَعُ النَّاسَ وَمَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ مِن مَّاءٍ فَأَحْيَا بِهِ الْأَرْضَ بَعْدَ مَوْتِهَا وَبَثَّ فِيهَا مِن كُلِّ  
دَآبَّةٍ وَتَصْرِيفِ الرِّيَاحِ وَالسَّحَابِ الْمُسَخِّرِ بَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ وَالأَرْضِ لَآيَاتٍ لِّقَوْمٍ يَعْقِلُونَ  
 
VERSE 10/20  
وَيَقُولُونَ لَوْلاَ أُنزِلَ عَلَيْهِ آيَةٌ مِّن رَّبِّهِ فَقُلْ إِنَّمَا الْغَيْبُ لِلّهِ فَانْتَظِرُواْ إِنِّي مَعَكُم مِّنَ الْمُنتَظِ  
 
VERSE 6/59  
وَعِندَهُ مَفَاتِحُ الْغَيْبِ لاَ يَعْلَمُهَا إِلاَّ هُوَ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا فِي الْبَرِّ وَالْبَ  
حْرِ وَمَا تَسْقُطُ مِن وَرَقَةٍ إِلاَّ يَعْلَمُهَا وَلاَ حَبَّةٍ فِي ظُلُمَاتِ الْأَرْضِ وَلاَ رَطْبٍ وَلاَ يَابِسٍ إِلاَّ  
فِي كِتَابٍ مُّبِينٍ  
 
 
VERSE 3/179  
مَّا كَانَ اللّهُ لِيَذَرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَلَى مَآ أَنتُمْ عَلَيْهِ حَتَّى يَمِيزَ الْخَبِيثَ مِنَ الطَّيِّبِ وَمَا كَانَ اللّهُ لِيُطْلِعَكُمْ عَلَى الْغَيْبِ وَلَكِنَّ اللّهَ يَجْتَبِي مِن رُّسُلِهِ مَن يَشَاءُ فَآمِنُواْ بِاللّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ وَإِن تُؤْمِ  
نُواْ وَتَتَّقُواْ فَلَكُمْ أَجْرٌ عَظِيمٌ  
 
 
 
3 الَّذِينَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْغَيْبِ وَيُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَمِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ يُنفِقُونَ  
متقی وہ لوگ ہیں جو قدرت کے پیمانوں کے ذریعے امن قائم کرتے ہیں یعنی احکامات الہی کے تحت نظام قائم کرتے ہیں اور جو ہم نے انہیں رزق دیا ہے اس کو بھلائی کے لئے خرچ کرتے ہیں۔  
 
This is particularly true for words which have well known common meanings; ALGHAIB is a good example of such words which is translated as unseen, hidden by almost all translators?  
Moazzam! A befitted meaning of Quranic words should be selected from the dictionary keeping in mind the context of the subject. For example  
 
الَّذِينَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْغَيْبِ وَيُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَمِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ يُنفِقُونَ  
متقی وہ لوگ ہیں جو قدرت کے پیمانوں کے ذریعے امن قائم کرتے ہیں یعنی احکامات الہی کے تحت نظام قائم کرتے ہیں اور جو ہم نے انہیں رزق دیا ہے اس کو بھلائی کے لئے خرچ کرتے ہیں۔  
 
وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَبِالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَمَا هُم بِمُؤْمِنِينَ  
اور لوگوں میں سے وہ بھی ہیں جو کہتے ہیں کہ ہم اقدار الہی کے ذریعے امن میں رہتے ہیں اور مکافات عمل کے ظہور کے وقت بھی امن میں رہنے والے ہونگےلیکن یہ لوگ امن والے نہیں۔  
 
 
يُخَادِعُونَ اللَّهَ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَمَا يَخْدَعُونَ إِلَّا أَنفُسَهُمْ وَمَا يَشْعُرُونَ  
یہ مملکت خداداد اور اہل امن کو دھوکہ دیتے ہیں لیکن یہ توصرف اپنے ہی لوگوں کو دھوکہ دیتے ہیں اور یہ بے شعور ہیں۔  
 
Moazzam! Particularly, look at 3:179's typical translation: "Allah will not leave the believers in the state in which ye are now, until He separates what is evil from what is good nor will He disclose to you the secrets of the Unseen( Ayatullah) But He chooses of His Messengers (For the purpose) whom He pleases. So believe in Allah. And His messengers: And if ye believe and do right, ye have a reward without measure. “(Yousuf Ali).  
So the above translation has no confusion at all, if you may put like this “the secrets of the Unseen( Ayatullah)”  
 
 
 
وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَبِالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَمَا هُم بِمُؤْمِنِينَ  
اور لوگوں میں سے وہ بھی ہیں جو کہتے ہیں کہ ہم اقدار الہی کے ذریعے امن میں رہتے ہیں اور مکافات عمل کے ظہور کے وقت بھی امن میں رہنے والے ہونگےلیکن یہ لوگ امن والے نہیں۔  
 
 
يُخَادِعُونَ اللَّهَ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَمَا يَخْدَعُونَ إِلَّا أَنفُسَهُمْ وَمَا يَشْعُرُونَ  
یہ مملکت خداداد اور اہل امن کو دھوکہ  
Moazzam! Allah has already set his laws(this is his direct involvement),now there will be no any direct Allah’s intervention in the universe.  
 
دیتے ہیں لیکن یہ توصرف اپنے ہی لوگوں کو دھوکہ دیتے ہیں اور یہ بے شعور ہیں۔  
As for as your second portion of question is concerns,  
Allah has already set his laws(this is his direct involvement),now there will be no any direct Allah’s intervention in the universe,each and every hapening would be through due course of natural laws.

 
 
SOMEONE POST THIS TO THE LIFE LONG STUDENT PLEASE  
 
Ad hominem  
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  
"Personal attacks" redirects here. For the Wikipedia policy, see Wikipedia:No personal attacks.  
An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it.[1] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy.  
 
Halo effect  
 
Ad hominem arguments work via the halo effect, a human cognitive bias in which the perception of one trait is influenced by the perception of an unrelated trait, e.g. treating an attractive person as more intelligent or more honest. People tend to see others as tending to all good or tending to all bad. Thus, if you can attribute a bad trait to your opponent, others will tend to doubt the quality of their arguments, even if the bad trait is irrelevant to the arguments.  
[edit]Types  
 
[edit]Abusive  
Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument, but can also involve pointing out true character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.  
Examples:  
"You can't believe John when he says the proposed policy would help the economy. He doesn't even have a job."  
"Candidate Jane's proposal about zoning is ridiculous. She was caught cheating on her taxes in 2003."  
"What would Mary know about fixing cars? She is a woman." (an example of Ad feminam)[5]  
An abusive ad hominem can apply to a judgment of cultural works or academic efforts based on the behavior or unconventional political beliefs of an artist, author, or musician, or the taste of an infamous person who loved a certain work.  
 
Examples:  
Jimi Hendrix died of a drug overdose, so his music was worthless.  
Leni Riefenstahl was a Nazi, so her film The Triumph of the Will is devoid of merit.  
Sylvia Plath was a depressive who eventually committed suicide, so her works are unreadable.  
What Ted Kaczynski wrote about boundary conditions in mathematics is shown false due to his crimes.  
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


Comments by: Nargis2 On 17 December 2011Report Abuse

7:188 can be understood by its contexrt, look from 7:186, in short ill try to give a sense of 7:188. Dr and Br can correct me if im wrong (using yusuf alis translation)  
 
” 7:187 “Say: "The knowledge thereof is with my Lord (alone):” 7:187  
 
Rusool is a continuous sequence; this ayah’s are addressed to the Rusool of the current time.  
So these questions in 7:186-188 are asked to the Rusool of the current time  
 
Asaa means special event, which means a special event which occurs after a struggle.  
So people ask you, the Rusool of the time being, when will this event come?  
The reply in the orthodox translation said: only Rabb know this  
However, Rabb means the nizame Rabb, system of Rabb, the functioning of Rabb  
So the ilm of these events are known to Nizame Raboywiet, as due course of procedure, its answer is given in the universe.  
This knowledge is already plotted in the system of universe, so it’s functioning know the answers.  
For example if a child asks his dad:- When will I pass my exams  
The father: This is only known to Rabb (they system which provide results according to your efforts), I.E, Its dependent on your efforts in your studies.  
 
):” 7:187 “None but He can reveal as to when it will occur.”  
 
When Illaho is mentioned, then Allah is not directly intervening, so whatever is happening due course of procedure, as a process, will happen at its time  
 
):” 7:187Heavy were its burden through the heavens and the earth.  
 
Here it is explained that everyone will be subjected to results of their deeds , When the event will occur, at its time, it will be uncompromising and solid , affect everyone no matter what their social status may be ,  
Alsamawat= elite class  
Al ardh= general public  
 
):” 7:187Only, all of a sudden will it come to you."  
 
no even will occur “suddenly”, but those people who are not aware of their mental state, will feel it like it.  
 
 
«They ask thee as if thou Wert eager in search thereof: Say: "The knowledge thereof is with Allah (alone), but most men know not."  
 
Only Allah know this, now what does it mean? That this is encoded in the system of Universe, but majority of general public is not aware of it.  
 
7:188. Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willet. I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith."  
 
Meaning, even me have to adopt this due course of procedure( modus operandi/ course of action) which is plotted in the Universe  
 
7:188If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all well, and no evil should have touched me  
 
so even the Rusool need to know every paymane of qudrat in order to avoid a wrong acts results


Comments by: Damon On 18 December 2011Report Abuse
Shabbir, Aurangzaib and the rest of the Our Beacon Crew's honesty are in serious question.  
 
I used to be reader of shabbir ahmed UNTIL I had learned of Dr. Qamar Saheb and his work. I'm sure Sister Nargis remembers when everyone at ourbeacon were asking shabbir his position, understanding and evidence of saum being "fasting" from food and drink, etc. HE NEVER DID!!!! And we all know WHY now. HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT SAUM IS OR QURAN'S EXPLANATION OF IT!!  
 
I knew he was lame when he attacked Dr. Qamar Saheb by saying that he doesn't even know how to spell Saum correctly. Shabbir spells it as saum whereas in the English translation of "Haqeeqat -e- Saum" it was spelled as Soum (with an O instead of an A). He is really lame for that because there is no "CORRECT" way of phoneticizing any Arabic word into English. You can spell it Saum, Soum, Sawm, Sauwm, etc. because there is no one correct way of spelling an Arabic word in English. When I saw shabbir do that, it was then that I permanently left him alone and realized that he is a complete fraud.  
 
And we all already know about Aurangzaib so there is no need for me to go into any of that.  
 
As far as the person who posted that thread in our beacon he does not have his facts straight. Dr. Qamar Saheb NEVER said that there is no life after death. He said that we do not know exactly what awaits us on the other side. This "claims" that Dr Qamar PROVED through grammar and logic that there is no life after death. Another lie!!!  
 
Most importantly, this guy OBVIOUSLY does not study The Quran for himself as he is asking shabbir to "TEACH" him the truth of this matter. :-(  
 
I swear, traditionalists (which is what shabbir and the ourbeacon crew are) never cease to amaze me.  
 
Damon.

Comments by: Nargis2 On 18 December 2011Report Abuse

Poor souls, there is not much to say to these people, hypocrites are not human beings what can you say to someone whos having meetings with aliens in blue uniform? It's obvious that he is mentally ill, and need medication.


Comments by: bob On 18 December 2011Report Abuse
Brother Hamza  
 
I have forwarded a question for you at ourbeacon along with Dr Qamar Zamans reply to Aurungzeb. I don’t expect it to be posted there, so I will ask you here: -  
 
you had an inquiry on the topic of Dr Qamar Zaman’s explanation about the Quraniq content (subject: life after death). I wonder if you were looking for abusive comments for Dr Qamar Zaman by Shabbir, or did you insist on details about life after death from him? Did he answer your question?  
 
I’m asking since you have not responded Shabbir and his crew after his abusive comments.

Comments by: dawood On 19 December 2011Report Abuse
SA Brothers and Sisters:  
 
I am surprised to see some of you are concerned about some stuff written on another blog. Why should you or anyone would care who writes what on what blog. This age and day anyone can write anything they want. So lets not waste our energies and give more prominence to such blogs than they deserve.  
 
With respect to Dr. QZ's work, his work is his best defense. Let his work speak for itself. I am one of the fans and critics of his work. I like his approach because he has undertaken an undertaking that is original and refreshing. I am a critic of his work because I want to see more rigor and all inclusivity in his work.

Comments by: Nargis On 25 December 2011Report Abuse

Dear Awais durrani, alam  
 
Is not his book already uploaded at Aastana ?I understand your feelings for him but What's the point of you posting this book over and over again here, when it is already uploaded? Please post Dr Qamar Zamans reply to this book, at Theirbacon, could you do that ?  
 
Here it is:- http://aastana.com/URDU/viewer.asp?id=61  
 
When we translate it to English, somalian, farsi or french , then do the same, post it there over and over again.  
 
If you manage to post there only once, tab maane ge. Or post it at his fb wall.  
 
What is the sound of clapping from one hand?  
 
Aastana admin, a reply to his book was not posted on their-bacon, then why is his book allowed to to be posted here over and over again?  
 
It's nice to be nice,but it is more nice to be wise. I think Aastana don't need anyone's praise, rather the world need its presence. That is why small minded people are insecure, their existence is not productive. I would not be surprised if these people discuss Veena Malik at their dinner table as the hottest "breaking news" of the world,,woohoo.  
 
So phillizzzzzz once uploaded is enough, no?

 
 
 
 
 

Comments by: Maniza On 25 December 2011
Dear Alam,  
 
I have deleted your posts with link to other sites where you give attention to Aurangzaib's Yousaf's book. We dont want to censor anyone but Dr.Qamar's reply has been uploaded. The discussion has come to a conclusion. Please take your affiliation else where now.

Comments by: SHAH On 14 April 2012Report Abuse
I read a lot and also missed a lot of comments of Aastana Blog during the last two years. I found Astana.com a good forum for discussion even on so called sensitive beliefs. I never wrote comments but the Book of Mr. Aurangzeb compelled me to give my point of view. I do not know what was the reason but I assume it was either due to Talaban fear or fond of becoming "Sultani Gawa" As far as the multiple fake identities are concerned, the Identity "Aurangzeb Yusufzai" itself a fake identity then why to blame others.  
I shall write in accordance with the sequence of the book "Deen Allah Ki Maadiyat Sazi".You said: The frictions among Muslims of "Assabeqoon al Awaloon" started from the Secretariat of Calif Ali where the letter was written against the cabinet decisions, to sack the high officials appointed by Calif Uthman. Then the feud broke out but the Jewish elders were blamed for the Muslims own tribal hatred and political mistake. Why, the Quran was not open there in front of those Muslims personalities? You said: The Jewish exposition of of Quran are still prevaling. Then who's inefficiency was that? The mental bankruptcy of the whole Ummah, Is it not astonishing?? "Ghar Ka Bhedi aur Lanka dahane ki koshish" You said: The Quran is the book of character building and guidance. Can the Quran build the character of a hungry and an impoverish society? You said: The Communism (Proletariate) was failed. Tell me where the Capitalism opened the doors of successes to the humanity? Before the list were compiled for Billionaires and now preparing the list of Trillionaires and the holders of Quran are rushing to enlist themselves. You said: the Marxism was failed: You should have quoted these poetic verses of Allama Iqbal, "Neast Payghamber wa lekin dar baghal darad kitab" We do not accept the life philosophy of communism but the reasons on which the movement was raised are still persist. HUMAN RIGHTS: The golden words of Calif Umar are recorded in the history " if a dog dies of hunger at the banks of river Tigris, Umar will be held responsible before Allah" What it was? What the Allama Iqbal wrote in a Pamphlet 'Roti Ki Fikr' "that the poverty eat up the inner of a human like white ants and even his 'Eman' and if the Islamic Shriah imposed wisely then I believe the livelihood and respect of each person may be guaranteed" You said: These are the secrets of the nature means the secrets of hereafter. These are the secrets of the nature for whom? It is said that you can not understand at all by quoting any worldly example. You just keep in your mind that for you the knowledge is given to understand the secrets of the nature in the disguise of 99 examples, called 'Isma al husni'. You said: The Quran is not the book of human rights. But we see the Quran is not only full of human rights but also warns to fulfill the human rights otherwise you will face destruction. But after availing all the rights it does not allow to commit the deeds below the human dignity. The Quran at first provide the human rights to bring up the human from the animal level then only asks to think high ideas and principals of life. The European nations at least try their best to raise themselves up to the human level but still not reached to the Quranic Standard. Allama Iqbal said "Jo hota wo majzoobe frangi iss zamane main tau Iqbal uss ko sikhhata maqame kibriya kia hai" You said: who knows under what agenda & secret agreement and against huge monetary benefits Dr. Qamar is working. Tell me 'Ye andaze guftgoo kia hai' You are guessing and blaming...is it allowed in Quran? Here you are showing that you are the only intelligent personality who could trace out the secret of Aastana.com. When Dr. Qamar accepting logically the reality of the revelation 'wahi' there he is blamed that it was due to the fear of disclosure. If the 'wahi' is not the secrets of the nature then what is it after all? Any secret knowledge any super-natural signals? Reply is in negative. The 'wahi' is the reveled knowledge which is existing in the shape of Quran, and what is Quran, not the secrets of the nature, not the supernatural signals. The Quran is the code of life and to follow those instructions is the provision of human righs. The life after death: In this connection, Late Allama Perwaiz quoted the same that" we believe the life after death but we can not have wisdom for that in this life". The word 'hereafter' is our creation, there is no hereafter, death is only for the body 'corpse'. life is before birth, life is after birth and life is after death which is merely a continuation and it solve the question of 'Aakhira'.... Aakhira is the conclusion of any processes whether a action,person,things or planet earth or other planets. At this to give reference of verse 2/8 is merely imposition of traditional religious decree (Fatwa). You said: Jamhoor Muslemeen and Qurani Parties whom you had discarded and pushed behind till yesterday, today you need them back again to get their support against Aastana.com. Is it not a defeated mentality? If Dr. QZ is working on the agenda of Aluminati Group (as per your decree) but the people of Aluminati have developed themselves a lot in Sciences, then why Dr. Qamar insists to answer from the Quran instead of Science? Mr Yusufzai abolished the value of this life through the quotation of verses and put all the efforts together to prove an unseen life. What we see,feel & experience and what the numerous Prophets instructed and in Quran urge to capture and utilize the universe, was it all nothing and as you said the human would attain the conscious energy only after death? My brother, where Dr. Qamar claimed that he pop in the next stage of life through scientific experiment and saw no such things? The result Mr. Yusufzai derived had been extracted centuries ago, while Plato was claiming that the world you see is not the real world rather it is a reflection of the upper real world. Your desire that there should be a group of intellectuals (where you also could get a seat) The group always start with single person. After every 10 steps if you brand an intellectual the agent of Jewish/Christian (Yahood o Nesara) then how you will form a group. You give your views, logic, explain the universal message, do good for the creation of God and let them decide about their true benefactors. Human Rights again: Allama Iqbal said:" Kas na bashed dar jahan motaje kas - Nuqtae sharah mubeen ein ast o bus" What was the struggle of Prophet Moses (pbuh) against Pharaohs of Egypt. Prophet Moses took the heard of the girl to water alongside the animals of the powerful elite. Why the Roman Government wanted to crucify Prophet Issa (pbuh) only because he was talking about the corrupt Government functionaries and to provide relief to the masses. Prophet Shoeb (pbuh) had warned the business community to take the price as per the quantity and quality of the goods and not to cheat the public. At the end Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) wrote to Roman Empire to fulfill the human rights and do not enslave the women & men against there will. The same thing I am requesting you that let the people work for the human rights. Human Rights and 'Rizq' are the similar words, hope you understand. What is it, you are advising rather canvasing to come under the flag of Dr. Asaralislam. You are drilling hole in one boat and jumping to another. In this way you are making the efforts of JPP suspicious. The Aastana.com gave you lot of respect, appoint you as executive member. You help other and do not pollute the brains by dividing the masses, this was the forte of Mulliyat.  
Thanks & Regards.  

Comments by: moazzam On 16 April 2012
It's quite rational approach to conclude the matter under question,thanks.

Comments by: Hamid Gul On 12 February 2016Report Abuse
I have today read this whole thread and found it very informative and enlightening. However, discussing personalities is a much lower level of discussion which should be always avoided unless very necessary. Only ideas should be discussed. The problem is our concept of divinity. This is sacred , that is not, but why ? This is from Allah , so is divine , rest is not. We forget what are we , where from our bodies and thoughts come ? Isn't from same Allah. We have day and night , isn't it from the same source ? or do we think night is not ? This universe is created with dichotomy. On the one hand is creation and on the other is nothingness. Tension between both is the secret of creation. In brief , what I want to say is that we should study books without giving any status of "Takudas" sacredness. Purely on merit with reason. Truth is not dependent or limited by any book or a person. Truth should be our objective. If someone thinks life after death is not mentioned in the book. Doesn't matter, if it is there , it will be. So no worries. Let us respect each other. This universe and multiverse, books , Prophets and all ordinary people are part of the nature , whose source is Allah. Than what is takadus mokadus theories ? All positivists are good negatives are because of nothingness which should be ignored. Just keep evolving state after state.

Comments by: Hamid Gul On 12 February 2016Report Abuse
Sir Syed, Allama Pervez , Dr Qamer Zaman , Nargis , Dr Shabbir and many others are all helping/helped Muslims for no reward. Many such people in history also did the same thing. Non of them is infallible , if they erred , so what ? They all deserve respect being positive. Bible say's at many places that earth is flat. It's ok , that is what Hawareen's of Jesus could think at a particular time. But they did contribute in human evolution. Truth never changes , someone knows it or not. So let us love love truth. Let reason be our torch , Truth as rudder and love be our destiny.  
 
I may be having some differences with Dr QZ , yet I respect him a lot , because of his great work. I don't expect him to be infallible. That's ok. Whatever, little I learnt from his writing is accepted with gratitude. Let us not form cults and be humans with divine energy right in our hearts.That needs to be evolved. Take help but don't follow/worship human's like us. Please delete my comments , if aastana people dislike my approach.

Comments by: Hamid Gul On 13 February 2016Report Abuse
Civilization of Babylon , Mesopotamian civilization , has a lot of significance. Stories of Adam and Eve originated there. We find them in Talmud, Bible and Quran also. That is wondrous. Differences of opinions shouldn't take any person to a point where abusive language is used. After reading this thread , it seems people have been indulging in this nefarious activity in the past , which speaks very low of them. Nothing is personal. Books are old not yours. So let there be no prejudice and possessiveness. Hold lively discussions , bring in scientific discoveries , new facts will pop into your minds also. Why do we underestimate ourselves. All humans have been created by the same creator having power to think. Let us develop our faculties by holding bold discussions and questioning what was never questioned. Don't get fixed up in held beliefs, that is mullah approach. We live not in universe but multiverse.

Comments by: burberrie On 13 February 2016Report Abuse
" All humans have been created by the same creator having power to think"  
 
1. How do you know that all humans are created by the SAME creator? you got scientific evidence?  
2. Some humans are born with no power to think! (e.g. Brain Damage)  
 
cheers,  
:)  

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