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Q.Brother Moazzam and Aastana members: Can you please explain the spider's house(web) as Allah quoted it as the weakest house(the web, whereas scientifically it is strongest one? Read the comments for details.
By: Mujeeb On: 10/18/2011

1.The scientific research proved that, spider’s thread is five times stronger than the steel of the same thickness, and can stretch to four times its own length . Mostly in engineering it is used as a technical term “the spider thread” for the point of its resistance to breaking and the extent it can stretch before breaking, is a material the like of which doesn’t exist.  
Why Allah said the weakest is the spider’s house??  
See the verse 29/41 The parable of those who take protectors other than Allah is that of the spider, who builds (to itself) a house; but truly the flimsiest of houses is the spider's house;- if they but knew.  
Comments by: Mujeeb On: 10/18/2011

 
2.Salaam Mujeeb.  
 
Context of this verse is very clear whole chapter is siting records of previous deniers, Mushriks and how Allah, His Laws dealt with them, firstly it is an example "Misl" of the people whom call upon other deities for help and there's example is like the house, Web of spider, not his Silk. You are right it is the strongest material. The idea behind spider's web is to trap his catch and then devour it. There are people, corporations, governments (Qaroon, Hamaan, Firon) whom are indulging in similar behavior, so there schemes are worthless, a little determination from Momins can sabotage all there plans. and this example has been sited for Aqal of Aalims. It has been going on for long debt trap, economic slavery of all of us etc.  
 
This is what i get, Moazzam bhai can further elaborate, you did ask Aastana members also i felt like sharing and it is time to really take this mission to new heights and horizons.  
 
Salaam.
Comments by: Iqbal kay shaheen On: 10/18/2011

 
3.Thank you Iqbal kayshaheen; I am waiting Brother Moazzam, plz enlighten us about the spider and its web described in verse 29/41??
Comments by: Mujeeb On: 10/20/2011

 
4.Brother Mujeeb , Ikballkey Shaheen! You are right the spider's thread is much more in strength than any other material of the same thickness.  
Spider net is not her/his house rather it is a strong net to trap his catch and then devour it.  
As Allah said her house is really a very weak (so it must be the weakest one)  
 
الَّذِينَ اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ = the mentality of the people those take أَوْلِيَاءَ other than Allah = the female spider الْعَنكَبُوتِ اتَّخَذَتْ (she took) HOUSE (أَوْهَنَ الْبُيُوتِ)  
Let us take a look at the female spider’s house described in Encyclopedia Encarta.  
The female of many spider species place the egg sac on a stalk, wraps leaves about it, attach it to a stone, or cover it with smooth silk before abandoning it. Other female guard the egg sac or carry it either in their jaws or attached to the spinnerets. IF FEMALE SPIDER LOSSES AN EGG SAC, SHE MAKES SEARCHING MOVEMENTS AND MAY PICK UP A PEBBLE OR A PIECE OF PAPER ( by considering it real one)AND ATTACH IT TO THE SPINNERETS  
So in the same way the “MUSHREKEEN” left the real WALI and picked the false one, consolidate it with the verse 22/73.  
Comments by: moazzam On: 10/20/2011

 
5.Dear Iqbal kay Shaheen, All Aastana Members !  
There is no BEE discussed in the Verse you quoted, rather, the guidance to the prestigious group who forcibly weakened. REMEMBER NO WAHY TO HEN OR BEE.  
16/68 وَأَوْحَى رَبُّكَ  
إِلَى النَّحْلِ أَنِ اتَّخِذِي مِنَ الْجِبَالِ بُيُوتًا وَمِنَ الشَّجَرِ وَمِمَّا يَعْرِشُونَ  
النَّحْلِ = A prestigious group who forcibly weakened. أَوْحَى =conceived the idea in the mind .  
النَّحْلِ = a group who forcibly weakened.  
بُيُوتًا ( idarah /department).  
الْجِبَالِ =the strong /powerful personalities of the society. See the verse  
وَكَانُواْ يَنْحِتُونَ مِنَ الْجِبَالِ بُيُوتًا آمِنِينَ 15/82,meaning: they got بُيُوتًا آمِنِينَ (the peaceful residence) from الْجِبَالِ ( by the support of the powerful/strong men of the society) by providing justifications.  
الشَّجَرِ =grouping in the society.  
مِمَّا يَعْرِشُونَ = those have ruling authority  
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AS PER NIZAM E RABOOBIYAT, IT WAS CONCEIVED IN THE MIND OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO FORCIBLY WEAKENED IN THE SOCIETY, THAT THEY MAY SEEK SUPPORT FROM THE POWERFUL STRONG PERSON OR FROM THE SOCIAL GROUPING OF THE SOCIETY OR FROM THE RULING CLASS TO BUILD “IDARAH/DEPARMENT”.  
 
Verse 16/69  
ثُمَّ كُلِي مِن كُلِّ الثَّمَرَاتِ فَاسْلُكِي سُبُلَ رَبِّكِ ذُلُلاً يَخْرُجُ مِن بُطُونِهَا شَرَابٌ مُّخْتَلِفٌ أَلْوَانُهُ فِيهِ شِفَاءٌ لِّلنَّاسِ إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لَآيَةً لِّقَوْمٍ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ  
 
كُلِي = to understand/comprehended.  
الثَّمَرَاتِ = the fruitful knowledge.  
ذُلُلاً = to maneuver.  
بُطُونِهَا = secrets the group learned.  
شَرَابٌ مُّخْتَلِفٌ أَلْوَانُهُ = the understandable different skills.  
شِفَاءٌ لِّلنَّاسِ = healing for man kind (in regard to their mantle illness).  
فَاسْلُكِي =Follow up.  
سُبُلَ رَبِّكِ = the laws of your sustainer (Alkitab).  
 
Then be comprehended with all types of knowledge and skill (which provides ultimate benefits to man kind) and follow the ways of your Lord laid down [Alkitab]. This maneuvering in knowledge will produce different understandable skills/ knowledge in which there is healing for people. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who give thought?  
 
 
 
Comments by: moazzam On: 10/20/2011

 
6.Brother Moazzam; THE VERSE 16/ 68 IS ABOUT DATES & GRAPES, THEN THE NEXT VERSE SEEMS ABOUT BEE AND HONEY.
Comments by: Mujeeb On: 10/20/2011

 
7.Mr. Mujeeb! In between the two types of knowledge seeking sources ie فِي الْأَنْعَامِ لَعِبْرَةً" and النَّحْلِ " the easy to understand empirical evidence has been given (as a similitude)in the verse 16/67 "And from the fruits of the palm trees and grapevines you take intoxicant and good provision. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who reason.  
 
 
 
 
Comments by: moazzam On: 10/21/2011

 
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